Graphics vs Gameplay - Page 4

On February 20 2010 10:15 wolfy4033 wrote:
Your logic is illogical.

On February 20 2010 10:53 Virtue wrote:

You can just claim something i can say up in down but frankly when you said logic you have to give your reasoning and explain why mine is wrong instead of just claiming it's wrong but i have a valid point atmosphere is a valid part of the game the ultra graphics is by intent and servers a purpose. To redo the graphics so you can see things easier to me just seems like people who want to exploit the game for winning and not for enjoying the game.

If everyone plays on the same settings it's fair and it's not a random race to see who can exploit the graphics the most for them.

On February 20 2010 10:58 wolfy4033 wrote:


I think winning is a pretty big part of playing competively and you should do everything (legal) you can to make it easier to watch and play the game. To redo the graphics so you can see things easier is obviously a very good thing. I'd rather be able to see what's going on than admiring the beauty in the middle of a game.

It's still fair. Everyone has the option to play on lowest settings if they want to.

On February 20 2010 11:07 Virtue wrote:

Frankly i find that to be against the spirit of competition it's not innovation but exploitation(it's figuratively how low do you want to stoop :D) i would hope in leagues people don't need to do that.

On February 20 2010 11:10 hoborg wrote:
I made screenshots of all the shader settings on a screen that shows toss and zerg, with everything else set to max. It's mostly the "Shader" setting that makes a difference. There's a big difference between Low, Medium, and High, but not too noticible between High, Ultra, and Extreme. (I didn't restart between settings, though, except for the Extreme shot)

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IMO high and up looks best for zerg, but medium or lower looks best for toss 'cos its harder to make out how many zealots there are at a glance on high.

On February 20 2010 11:09 wolfy4033 wrote:


So someone who cant play the game on ultra high settings is exploiting? I just dont get it...

If it's easier to control and play the game on lower settings, that's what you "should" do if you plan on competing. I find that pretty darn obvious.

On February 20 2010 12:05 Virtue wrote:

That's not what you're saying you want to go low graphics not because you can't go high graphics but because you believe you gain an advantage settings it on low. :D don't try to do that bullshit logic with me keep on target. As has been pointed out very small diff between high and ultra and frankly if you're playing it near processionally but you can't afford a computer to play it on at least high you should rethink your profession.

On February 20 2010 10:14 Virtue wrote:
Okay would you play any boardgame that had no game art or was drawn by a 2 year old?

No that's my logic it makes perfect sense.

And playing an 11 year old game vs intensionally crippling the looks is much different.

Would you turn up the gamma on your tv when you watch a horror movie so you could see everything better?

Imo it ruins atmosphere.

On February 20 2010 12:14 vaderseven wrote:
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Instead of taking all the non personal advice I suggest the following (oxymoron or not that made sense!) -

Play the game on full graphics for at least 14 days (insert own number). I would make the arguments of how would adjust or how there is more info with more graphics or whatever you can say but Ill make the simple argument as the main one instead.

The game is REALLY pretty on Ultra and the game displays everything you need to know in Ultra. With those two facts in mind, if you can get used to that, you will have x% more fun playing like that (x = your love of graphics). If you downgrade... you will be allowing the possible I GOT USED TO THE LOWER SETTINGS + NEVER GOT USED TO HIGHER to take effect. Ask yourself, do you want to question in 5 years that you might have gotten used to high settings at the start REALLY fast and never played on low for that? IF you get used to low, but some people you see at high level play on the super high, wouldn't that just be a disappointment not to be in the high ghx crowd?


I say try what pleases the sense (not the OMG I WINNING AT BETA) FIRST and then adapt.








I say all this with HoN/DotA background. HoN throws you for a loop at first... Now I can read the battles 100% fine. I just tried beta of sc2 today btw... while i was like LOL what hotkey does what (i only had an hour to play) I was never asking what unit is what or what spell was that I knew because I followed the development. Short of this - The GPX UI can be followed on ultra very easy if you are used to to his kind of UI in 3d (HoN being the only one like this... even dawn of war is way different!).

On February 20 2010 06:30 Emon_ wrote:


I remember reading an interview with top Counter Strike player Heaton who played the game on 640x400. Says he's used to it. I'm sure plenty others play it on 3 times the resolution.