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Ottoxlol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
735 Posts
March 29 2011 20:35 GMT
#17521
funday mondays are all about having fun, what in earth would be fun in having gateways instead of warpgates. mass immortal with some carrier support on the other hand..
xiaoW
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
March 29 2011 20:42 GMT
#17522
The whole point of the 2gate limit is to force u to have a different composition than what we see this current metagame. We get to see some more of the immortal/phoenix/voidray/carrier compositions, which will make fun and interesting games
vicariouscheese
Profile Joined June 2010
United States589 Posts
March 29 2011 20:44 GMT
#17523
On March 30 2011 00:48 Aim Here wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 20:42 MdD wrote:
On March 29 2011 13:59 Takkara wrote:
I suspect it's going to be a lot of cannon shenanigans due to people being gas-starved but mineral flooded.


It could also be that Day9 wants ppl to use Chronoboost more instead of letting the nexi stay at 100 energy the whole game and us seeing just that.


What does that have to do with not making Warpgates? You do realise that warpgates can be chronoed just like any other building, don't you? If you have a spare second or two, it's worth flicking back to the base to chrono them to get your warpgate units out quicker.


I think what he meant was to promote chronoboosting warpgates as much as possible, to see how much you can actually produce out of 2 efficient warpgates instead of 3 or 4 non chrono'd.

But really I think the funday monday is just trying to see how people will live without meatshields for the robo and stargate units
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
March 29 2011 20:53 GMT
#17524
I reckon lategame PvP Phoenix/Carrier would rule, as it negates any unit that can't shoot up, the Phoenix kill the Void Rays and Stalkers really aren't that great vs mass air.

Unfortunately, there isn't any way of getting there without dying if you stay with 2 Warp Gates. Speaking of which, do you reckon there will be any PvP replays (in mid-higher leagues)? Given that you will just die vs 4gate, which is pretty standard now.
KinneySL
Profile Joined February 2011
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 21:48:44
March 29 2011 21:32 GMT
#17525
Agreed on the letter of the law vs. spirit comments. Cannon rushing requires no warp gates at all, but who wants to see that? Funday Monday is about fun, and cannon rushes aren't fun. A HuK-style mothership rush... now THAT would be fun. And, if you can somehow pull it off, immortal/carrier is actually a really nasty combination.

On the other hand, I'd hate to be in the lower leagues this week, as lower league 'toss are already way too fond of void rays to begin with and this will only encourage them.
Tezkat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada72 Posts
March 29 2011 21:41 GMT
#17526
Inspired by last night's daily...


HOW THE GHOST NUKED FUNDAY
by Dr. Zuess



Every Protoss on ladder
Liked 4-Gate a lot...

But the Ghost
On the Day[9] Daily
Did NOT!

The Ghost hated warpgates! The whole Protoss culture!
If he could, he would mine the whole map with a vulture.
But those only came with the 1P campaign.
So then what would he do now?
The Ghost wracked his brain...

The Ghost thought...
And he thought...
Of a plan that'd be cool...
Then it hit him.
He said, "I must go back to school!"

There he sat in his base where a few SCVs
Were hard at work building new Ghost Academies.
Now, there's something to say about this sort of school,
And it's not hard and fast, just a general rule
That they're not where you'd study to learn ABCs.
No, THESE schools are for playing with WMDs!

The Ghost researched cloak, so he wouldn't be seen,
Then began building missiles to make foes glow green.
Thus armed, he went looking for bad guys to fry,
Spouting Ghost Ghostly mottos like "Never Say Die".

Marching past the lyotes (that asplode with a poke),
The Ghost reached his target.
He turned on his cloak.
When he shone the red laser (thus far unsuspected),
A warning sound boomed:

"NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED!"

The Protoss... they panicked!
The probes upped and fled!
Protoss buildings blew up, dropping food into red.

And what happened then...?
Well... the viewers might say
That the Protoss supply count
Dropped three sizes that day.

The Ghost built some more missiles,
Each topped with a nuke.
Then he nuked!
And he nuked!
And he'd NUKE! NUKE! NUKE! NUKE!

He nuked all the pylons! He nuked all the stalkers!
He nuked all the cannons and shiny gold walkers!

But this Ghost wasn't Master League... not even Gold.
He was simply a Bronze Leaguer... newbie, but bold.
(His macro was terrible, if truth be told.)

With large trust funds of mineral and gas in his banks,
He had built no marauders. He'd built no siege tanks.
He had naught but marines--and a Ghost--in his ranks.

When the Protoss arrived with a force at his door
Those marines soon were splattered all over the floor.
The Ghost's prospects looked grim now,
But did he despair?
No!
The Ghost set his SCVs all on repair.
And they worked all their SCV hearts out to last
Just until the new fortress could morph in to blast
All the Protoss to pieces.
He made it!
Hurrah!
(Let's face it... we all know the damn things are imba.)

The workers all breathed a long sigh of relief,
And they went back to mining in foolish belief
That the danger had ended, and they'd never fall...
But the Protoss had built up another death ball.

While the Ghost kept on nuking, his foes could expand
And expand till comm centers had no place to land.
With his resources dwindling, supply gaps grew wide,
And the Ghost quickly found he had nowhere to hide.

A huge wave of immortals began their advance.
Not even his fortresses stood any chance.
They razed his last expo, not slowing their pace,
Then proceeded to level HIS WHOLE FUCKING BASE!

The Ghost merely shrugged and continued his mission.
As everyone knows: IT'S THE BEST DAMNED TRANSITION!

So he nuked,
And he nuked
Till his silos ran dry.
Then he saved his last pennies
For just one more try.
But with 5 hit points left,
Twas too little, too late.
A lone little probe charged in
To seal the Ghost's fate.

The replay recorded the Ghost's epic demise
With the volume turned way up to hear his last cries.
If you listen in close, you might hear him exclaim:
"Happy Funday to all, and to all a good game!"


g.g.
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
March 29 2011 21:46 GMT
#17527
On March 29 2011 12:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 12:43 Gokey wrote:
What was the new Funday Monday topic?


You must win a game while making no more than two warp gates/gateways.


wow seems awfully gas heavy. im thinking with the extra mins you're going to need lots of expos and cannons
Side 1: Why no dominant players with 90% win ratio Side 2: Nerf Side 1
KinneySL
Profile Joined February 2011
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 21:53:30
March 29 2011 21:51 GMT
#17528
On March 30 2011 06:46 KillerPlague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 12:45 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On March 29 2011 12:43 Gokey wrote:
What was the new Funday Monday topic?


You must win a game while making no more than two warp gates/gateways.


wow seems awfully gas heavy. im thinking with the extra mins you're going to need lots of expos and cannons
Immortals would help minerals not get too far ahead of gas.
wwer
Profile Joined January 2011
United States53 Posts
March 29 2011 21:54 GMT
#17529
Immortal/Phoenix
Cajun2k1
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands399 Posts
March 29 2011 21:58 GMT
#17530
On March 30 2011 06:41 Tezkat wrote:
/cut

g.g.


That dr Seuss parody deserves his own blog, so well written, I wonder how long it took to make?
How can you kill, that which has no life?
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
March 29 2011 22:03 GMT
#17531
won't everyone just proxy 2gate zealot?
KinneySL
Profile Joined February 2011
22 Posts
March 29 2011 22:11 GMT
#17532
On March 30 2011 07:03 SupastaR wrote:
won't everyone just proxy 2gate zealot?
See what I wrote above. Yeah, you only need two WGs to proxy 2-gate zealot rush, and you need no WGs at all to cannon rush, but those aren't interesting. Why air a replay that isn't interesting?
Tezkat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada72 Posts
March 29 2011 23:26 GMT
#17533
On March 30 2011 06:58 Cajun2k1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 06:41 Tezkat wrote:
/cut

g.g.


That dr Seuss parody deserves his own blog, so well written, I wonder how long it took to make?


Thanks.

It actually came together fairly quickly. A lot of those lines had been percolating around in my head since Sean announced the Funday topic. During Monday's cast, I kept coming up with more Seuss-esque rhymes to describe the action. The final match was so epic that it had to be immortalized in verse.

Don't think I can make blogs yet, though, being a forum newbie and all...
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
March 29 2011 23:29 GMT
#17534
On March 30 2011 05:44 vicariouscheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 00:48 Aim Here wrote:
On March 29 2011 20:42 MdD wrote:
On March 29 2011 13:59 Takkara wrote:
I suspect it's going to be a lot of cannon shenanigans due to people being gas-starved but mineral flooded.


It could also be that Day9 wants ppl to use Chronoboost more instead of letting the nexi stay at 100 energy the whole game and us seeing just that.


What does that have to do with not making Warpgates? You do realise that warpgates can be chronoed just like any other building, don't you? If you have a spare second or two, it's worth flicking back to the base to chrono them to get your warpgate units out quicker.


I think what he meant was to promote chronoboosting warpgates as much as possible, to see how much you can actually produce out of 2 efficient warpgates instead of 3 or 4 non chrono'd.

But really I think the funday monday is just trying to see how people will live without meatshields for the robo and stargate units


Honestly it sounded to me like Day9 was encouraging the good ol' VR/Colossus builds...
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 30 2011 00:31 GMT
#17535
On March 30 2011 03:21 Malminos wrote:
Dear Sean Plott:

Salutations,


Suess is pronounced "Soose" aka "sue-sssssssssss" not "zeus". Stop trolling.

Your biggest fan, and archive viewer,
Malminos.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Seuss#Pen_names_and_pronunciations
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sylverin
Profile Joined February 2011
United States480 Posts
March 30 2011 00:42 GMT
#17536
On March 30 2011 06:41 Tezkat wrote:
Inspired by last night's daily...

Snip
g.g.



omg this is soooo good :D i hope sean reads it
to smile because your rhyming skills is off the skillet

<3
Liquid hero <3////Brotoss Protoss!
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
March 30 2011 04:03 GMT
#17537
Id like to see a fundaymonday where

1) You must research neosteel frames before you expand and
2) You must actually have some sort of use for it

(Its the upgrade that lets you put more stuff in your bunkers)


Also one where as protoss or terran: Whenever you scout a new enemy expo, you must take another base yourself. (So if the enemy zerg goes hatch before pool, as soon as you scout that, you must expand. When the zerg takes his third, you must take your third (or already have it)

Whats that you say, its just good sense to always be at least on the same number of bases? Just wait until you have a day9 viewer vs a day9 viewer.
hillburra
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia114 Posts
March 30 2011 06:37 GMT
#17538
Soooooooo, whats the next newbie tuesday? Did he just forget to tell us all or what?
ToastieNL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands845 Posts
March 30 2011 06:43 GMT
#17539
Isn't Day9 just trying to make us realise how fast we can tech if we skip on the Warpgate Research? The only think I dislike is the huge weakness for Anti Air only obtainable with Stargates.

This might end up with Immortal Meatshields and anti- armoured, Collosi to take down everything that destroys the Hardened Shields, Void Rays for general DPS/harass techniques, Phoenix for scouting and Anti- light, Zealots as meatshields and a lot of Warp prism + DT/Zealot harass, as you will be gasstarved quite badly you will want to make a Warp Prism every now and then. Maybe even Warp Prism/Cannon harass?
Zerg lategame is imbalanced as shit. Also: "Protoss is really strong recently. Perhaps, it's time for there to be some changes for Terran." -MMA. Even MMA asks for buffs. Srsly Blizzard. Srsly.
Cotillion37
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada94 Posts
March 30 2011 07:00 GMT
#17540
On March 30 2011 15:37 hillburra wrote:
Soooooooo, whats the next newbie tuesday? Did he just forget to tell us all or what?


He mentioned that it was some super special topic or something without going in to specifics about it.
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