Day[9].tv Daily - Page 779

On January 04 2011 14:20 Feb wrote:
we're just reacting to the daily.

personally i just wanna know when/if another funday will be.

On January 04 2011 14:37 Feb wrote:
based on the ads asking for donations that wikipedia refuses to call ads. wikipedia is doing okay, but i wouldn't say it's doing great. i think it really should shift to an advertising model. the other two are essentially the same thing (as they're in partnership with each other), merchandise, and have strong support from political and corporate sponsors that get a notable benefit from their work (and day9 wasn't saying he was looking for sponsorship). not the greatest comparisons, which was kinda my point.

i was comparing day9 to webcartoonists personally, and most of them have shifted from donations to stronger advertising (take a hint wikipedia, i really wouldn't mind google ads or some other major advertiser on your site) and especially merchandising (both of which are limited options for day9 as i mentioned in my original post).

On January 04 2011 14:45 Greentellon wrote:


Next week, funday topic:
Zerg and can't attack before you have a nydus worm up somewhere on the map. And at some point of the game you have to have 2 nydus worms spawning at the same time.

On January 04 2011 16:52 KingRajesh wrote:
The blip.tv doesnt have the 2011 State of Day9 bit.

On January 04 2011 13:20 Slasher wrote:

Maybe it's just me, but I feel like donations are reserved for someone falling on rough times/had a horribly damaging event happen to them, or to charities such as Child's Play and Get Well Gamers.

To clarify the official TL stance on this, requesting donations on TL pages is not permitted unless approved by an administrator. This includes your stream description or stream thread, but does not include asking on the stream itself or in the stream chat.

We may remove streams if the stream quality is affected by too many requests for donations; the focus of streams should be on gaming not making money.

On January 04 2011 17:07 RageOverdose wrote:


This is the big thing I want to point out. I feel like this statement is an attempt to justify the two paragraphs before it, to justify getting sponsors over the donations.

I find it extremely pretentious to state what you think donations should be reserved for, considering that donations seem more like something that should be at the discretion of the person with the money to donate, rather you aren't really in a position to say what people should donate to, as it is their money, their interests, and their decision. The thing is, people won't donate money if they don't think money is necessary. I know that statement sounds weird, because money is almost always necessary, but rather, it's not something you realize off the bat, it doesn't click immediately that Day[9] requires funding because he doesn't really talk about it. So he mentions it so people will think about it, so they'll realize money is in fact a barrier, and out of their own decision, they can fund him, but he will still give them content regardless of if they do to the best of his abilities. Asking for donations seems fine, because it's asking, and when you ask you tend to put yourself humbly in front of those you ask. When it gets bad is when people complain or criticize for not doing something they ask, particularly when they are not in a seat of power (but that usually isn't really asking, more like demanding or "asking with a catch").

So, it really isn't just you as others agree, but I have to disagree strongly, because I feel that you are, indirectly, telling me what I should do with my money when you are in no position to do so.

If you don't want to donate, I don't care, I hope I don't give the wrong impression. Donation is one of those things that I feel is about the individual's own choice and their choice alone. People choose to give to others, for various reasons. Asking for donations is somewhat taking advantage of people's generosity, but at the same time, it's not like he's going to force anyone, and in the end it is still their decision.

On January 04 2011 17:07 RageOverdose wrote:


This is the big thing I want to point out. I feel like this statement is an attempt to justify the two paragraphs before it, to justify getting sponsors over the donations.

I find it extremely pretentious to state what you think donations should be reserved for, considering that donations seem more like something that should be at the discretion of the person with the money to donate, rather you aren't really in a position to say what people should donate to, as it is their money, their interests, and their decision. The thing is, people won't donate money if they don't think money is necessary. I know that statement sounds weird, because money is almost always necessary, but rather, it's not something you realize off the bat, it doesn't click immediately that Day[9] requires funding because he doesn't really talk about it. So he mentions it so people will think about it, so they'll realize money is in fact a barrier, and out of their own decision, they can fund him, but he will still give them content regardless of if they do to the best of his abilities. Asking for donations seems fine, because it's asking, and when you ask you tend to put yourself humbly in front of those you ask. When it gets bad is when people complain or criticize for not doing something they ask, particularly when they are not in a seat of power (but that usually isn't really asking, more like demanding or "asking with a catch").

So, it really isn't just you as others agree, but I have to disagree strongly, because I feel that you are, indirectly, telling me what I should do with my money when you are in no position to do so.

If you don't want to donate, I don't care, I hope I don't give the wrong impression. Donation is one of those things that I feel is about the individual's own choice and their choice alone. People choose to give to others, for various reasons. Asking for donations is somewhat taking advantage of people's generosity, but at the same time, it's not like he's going to force anyone, and in the end it is still their decision.

On January 04 2011 17:38 Reborn8u wrote:
Did everyone forget that Day9 said he wants to do this so he can devote more time to starcraft and building on all the great ideas people have come up with. It's not like he want's to take all the money and get a new car. I'm sure he will continue to live in humble accommodations and put every penny he can into making Starcraft awesome. I think a lot of people don't realize how much time and energy he has already given away for free and he still is. Nobody is required to give a dime. He said he turned down several sponsors for the daily to keep it focused on what it is, when you got bills to pay it isn't easy to just turn down money. If you want to support starcraft and you are well off financially, why not donate. If you can't or don't like the idea, then don't donate. But don't attack his character, unless you want yours attacked by 1000's of his followers.

On January 04 2011 16:48 ApBuLLet wrote:
It appears to be uploaded to blip now, "Day[9] Daily #232 - Ret vs oGsMC ZvP Analysis." gonna watch it now.

Edit: yeah, the poster below me is correct. Hopefully it is uploaded separately! I don't see wh it wouldn't be, he usually uploads everything =)