EPTDon't just blow him off because he's not focusing on the 5% of players who are high-diamond/pros. And Newbie Tuesdays are great for fundamental reminders and simple things for practice.
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Gojira621
United States374 Posts
Don't just blow him off because he's not focusing on the 5% of players who are high-diamond/pros. And Newbie Tuesdays are great for fundamental reminders and simple things for practice. | ||
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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klo8
Austria1960 Posts
On December 30 2010 08:38 D10 wrote: No i dont, I just stopped having the drive to watch Day9 (Still love when he casts tourney games) after many newbie tuesdays where I was really pumped to see some decent comentary only to see .. well you know I watch Day9 since #1, Im a fan, I guess even Day9 can hurt his hardcore audience by doing broader apeal lol I want high level commentary all days except for a BW day Co analisis is good, but the analisys is the important part, i dont become a better gamer when hes giving feedback to low diamond players You do realize that you sound like a huge snob, do you? | ||
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DarKcS
Australia1237 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I believe he will be back on the 2nd week of january, but who knows. | ||
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synfire
Canada1 Post
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tieya
United States308 Posts
ugh, I promised myself I wouldn't cry. | ||
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Slakter
Sweden1947 Posts
On January 01 2011 16:58 tieya wrote: Ugh, Day9. I'm watching some of your earlier casts and I can't believe how much you - no, all of us have evolved into one big crater in the Starcraft universe. ugh, I promised myself I wouldn't cry. His BW-analysis is IMO better, but sure. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
On January 01 2011 06:48 klo8 wrote: You do realize that you sound like a huge snob, do you? doesn't sound snobbish at all to me. someone recommended to me day9's first 50 dailies and it's pretty tremendous actually how much more useful the knowledge of "just talking about starcraft" gets you compared to newbie tuesdays. i haven't had this kind of genuine enjoyment of the dailies consistently from show to show for a long time. even though it's completely possible for me to watch most of the shows live, i just don't anymore, because half of the shows cater to an audience that i'm not really a part of i also get the same feeling of just not being pumped to watch the show anymore. i miss the feeling of being geniunely enlightened by the unique thought process that sean has about the game. that was what was magical about the show to me. i can let funday monday slide but really, the reason i want to see the day9 daily is because i want to watch a passionate, intelligent guy just rant about the intricacies of a game of starcraft for an hour. i'm writing this because i want to give some constructive criticism. what was being done was great. what is being done just isn't, for me. yea, whatever, the BW commentary had more depth, but so did the game itself by the time sean was doing dailies. my issue is really that i don't particularly enjoy watching people do deliberately silly things in a game, nor do i enjoy watching day9 be the SC2 Strat forum's personal replay analyzer | ||
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ProbeEtPylon
168 Posts
On January 01 2011 20:18 Herculix wrote: doesn't sound snobbish at all to me. someone recommended to me day9's first 50 dailies and it's pretty tremendous actually how much more useful the knowledge of "just talking about starcraft" gets you compared to newbie tuesdays. i haven't had this kind of genuine enjoyment of the dailies consistently from show to show for a long time. even though it's completely possible for me to watch most of the shows live, i just don't anymore, because half of the shows cater to an audience that i'm not really a part of i also get the same feeling of just not being pumped to watch the show anymore. i miss the feeling of being geniunely enlightened by the unique thought process that sean has about the game. that was what was magical about the show to me. i can let funday monday slide but really, the reason i want to see the day9 daily is because i want to watch a passionate, intelligent guy just rant about the intricacies of a game of starcraft for an hour. i'm writing this because i want to give some constructive criticism. what was being done was great. what is being done just isn't, for me. yea, whatever, the BW commentary had more depth, but so did the game itself by the time sean was doing dailies. my issue is really that i don't particularly enjoy watching people do deliberately silly things in a game, nor do i enjoy watching day9 be the SC2 Strat forum's personal replay analyzer I completely agree with you! Day[9], be our messiah again, please. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On January 01 2011 20:18 Herculix wrote: doesn't sound snobbish at all to me. someone recommended to me day9's first 50 dailies and it's pretty tremendous actually how much more useful the knowledge of "just talking about starcraft" gets you compared to newbie tuesdays. i haven't had this kind of genuine enjoyment of the dailies consistently from show to show for a long time. even though it's completely possible for me to watch most of the shows live, i just don't anymore, because half of the shows cater to an audience that i'm not really a part of i also get the same feeling of just not being pumped to watch the show anymore. i miss the feeling of being geniunely enlightened by the unique thought process that sean has about the game. that was what was magical about the show to me. i can let funday monday slide but really, the reason i want to see the day9 daily is because i want to watch a passionate, intelligent guy just rant about the intricacies of a game of starcraft for an hour. i'm writing this because i want to give some constructive criticism. what was being done was great. what is being done just isn't, for me. yea, whatever, the BW commentary had more depth, but so did the game itself by the time sean was doing dailies. my issue is really that i don't particularly enjoy watching people do deliberately silly things in a game, nor do i enjoy watching day9 be the SC2 Strat forum's personal replay analyzer So what exactly was constructive in your criticism? Should he learn magic? Be more intelligent? | ||
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Socke
Germany451 Posts
also, he thinks day9 should refrain from doing dailys like funday monday or newbie tuesday. i totally agree on the 2nd point, after like 1-2 funday mondays its lost its appeal, and i havent bothered watching a full newbie tuesday yet. the top lvl analysis i enjoy greatly tho, so i wish more of these would appear again. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 01 2011 23:39 nihlon wrote: So what exactly was constructive in your criticism? Should he learn magic? Be more intelligent? I think he's saying that all these shows of variety (Funday Monday for example) aren't of his liking and would like Day [9] to resume a more in-depth analysis daily. I guess he feels that his dailies are becoming more "Look what I found" than "Look what we can learn from this replay". That's my understanding at least, though I don't entirely agree and perhaps I misunderstood. | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
Of course there are some funday games that can somewhat keep the fun even though the players are worse than imaginable(Uniden) but still I have doubts regarding the selection process: the overall quality of games cannot be that bad?!(the games are selected by a group of people for Sean, right?) And Newbie Tuesdays, well they are okay. The amount of people playing SC2 that go to the category newbie is huge & so although I consider myself to be at the very bottom, only like 5-10% of Newbie Tuesday content has been of any value to me. I do prefer Day's straight up pro-game analysis but I guess he'll have to do these unless someone else steps up to really help the hardcore noobs. The old SC community has never experienced something like this- a huge influx of total beginners- so the situation is hard to understand at times. Again for those who don't know: when people came to BW-scene they got through the very first stages by themselves - search function, youtube, proleague, Liquipedia later on. The pyramid is way too big at its other end so we can't (IMO we maybe could) just show the people the route but big contributors like Day[9] have to act like goddamn Gandalf and guide these little hobbits the whole way. Worst thing is that now new people expect to be pushed up the hill and also be entertained along the way. Just something to keep in mind for those whining about FM and NT. In my opinion Dailies would still be more entertaining than TV even if it was just trumpet dance for 50 minutes. In my opinion you are expecting too much from one guy if you want it to be super in-depth analysis, revealing a hidden pro-secret or a new imba-build every time. Is it the new attitude InControl just spoke about on SoTG ? I dunno, this is all very confusing to me. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 02 2011 00:01 Torte de Lini wrote: I think he's saying that all these shows of variety (Funday Monday for example) aren't of his liking and would like Day [9] to resume a more in-depth analysis daily. I guess he feels that his dailies are becoming more "Look what I found" than "Look what we can learn from this replay". That's my understanding at least, though I don't entirely agree and perhaps I misunderstood. That's the feeling I get too from reading it and I really agree with him. I haven't watched a lot of Day9 but in June I basically watched everyday I could. It was awesome. Now days I just don't watch anymore. All these "fun" casts seem to have taken over. If it's netting him more viewers than cool for him. It just isn't the same as watching him go on about some deep thinking in a game. Even when he does get a replay it's more of a "look how cool this is" :<. I guess people just enjoy this approach more than what he used to do. The fun casts are fine, they don't really take anything away. The problem is when they take over completely . Maybe that's his new approach and maybe that's what people want. It's his show and he can do what he likes. | ||
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Joroth
United States318 Posts
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Darren1337
Ireland73 Posts
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Corvette
United States433 Posts
Its because of a few things: 1) The game, while still new, isnt as new as it used to be. What I mean by this is most of the stuff we have seen already. I remember watching the episode about "Eternal Force Field" and it blew my mind, but now most strategies have been displayed for everyone. 2) Exposure, it is so much harder for Day[9] to be the first to bring you information on a new build/strategy etc. There are so many other sources of information compared to what there was 5,6, or 7 months ago. 3) You are smarter then you were yesterday, (Probably). That means your starcraft IQ wont grow as much from watching current Daily as previous ones. Lets say your SC2IQ is '1' and watching a daily increases it by an average of '2'. After watching one daily you will get a 200% increase of SC2IQ. However, after your 100th daily you will go from '201' to '203' So you wont feel like you learned as much as you have before. 4) He probably doesnt do as many Prolevel analysis because you're (the majority of his audience) isnt pro. You arent going to learn from watching pro's play as much as you will from watching your peers play and having someone analyze it. Anyways, im sure that i could give you more reasons to get over yourself and appreciate the incredible resources of entertainment and instruction that Day[9] has given us, but by now im sure that you now understand, or youre too stubborn to admit it. | ||
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Crankenstein
Australia150 Posts
In my opinion Dailies would still be more entertaining than TV even if it was just trumpet dance for 50 minutes. Oh man, so true. Television is so goddamn crap lately. I couldn't care less about how technical he gets. He himself is hilarious. Nothing more enjoyable to me than just sitting down, having dinner and listening to him carry on the way he does. Dinner with day9 is awesome man. His passion and hilarity is what got me interested I only started really paying attention to his analysis after a while. | ||
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Usul.775
Singapore115 Posts
And what's wrong with watching two bronze players battling it out for 20 minutes (especially when Mr. Day9 is casting)? Are all diamond matches super epic? We wouldn't even have Uniden if it were so... | ||
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