On August 30 2009 05:37 killanator wrote: I wonder if korean pros will even be playing the blizzard ladder? It definitely wont have any kespa support, but I'm sure Blizzard could put quite a bit of money up for it if they wanted, and it could turn out to be pretty prestigious. I just don't think a battlenet league will be able to have the top korean players, even if there was no lag at all.
Well, what alternatives would they have for a while at release without LAN or an emulated private server?
some noob had a question at blizzcon about this that I didn't understand until I saw this post (because I missed this whole ladder league breakdown thing). He asked what rank it will put you in if you are copper and you ally is gold when u play 2v2AT. BRowder said that 2v2s act like a single person or unit and therefor start at rank 1 like any other player. You will therefor jump ranks pretty fast if you guys have a high win ratio.
PS- Pro league is a P and platinum is a P, also practice league is a P. the ranks could get confusing.
All I'm hoping for is that Blizzard is willing enough to allow for maps from outside sources to be used in their ladder system if they want to replace third party ladders. Look at how much Blizzard maps are used in sc today... I really like this league breakdown though and think as long as the maps don't suck they'll have a pretty good system.
On August 30 2009 07:16 CharlieMurphy wrote: some noob had a question at blizzcon about this that I didn't understand until I saw this post (because I missed this whole ladder league breakdown thing). He asked what rank it will put you in if you are copper and you ally is gold when u play 2v2AT. BRowder said that 2v2s act like a single person or unit and therefor start at rank 1 like any other player. You will therefor jump ranks pretty fast if you guys have a high win ratio.
PS- Pro league is a P and platinum is a P, also practice league is a P. the ranks could get confusing.
On August 30 2009 07:22 Hamster1800 wrote: All I'm hoping for is that Blizzard is willing enough to allow for maps from outside sources to be used in their ladder system if they want to replace third party ladders. Look at how much Blizzard maps are used in sc today... I really like this league breakdown though and think as long as the maps don't suck they'll have a pretty good system.
I assume blizzard would look at the korean model and figure it out, but they never did with warcraft 3(although there were never professional map makers for that game)
On August 30 2009 07:22 Hamster1800 wrote: All I'm hoping for is that Blizzard is willing enough to allow for maps from outside sources to be used in their ladder system if they want to replace third party ladders. Look at how much Blizzard maps are used in sc today... I really like this league breakdown though and think as long as the maps don't suck they'll have a pretty good system.
I assume blizzard would look at the korean model and figure it out, but they never did with warcraft 3(although there were never professional map makers for that game)
Honestly, map geography features aren't nearly as important in WC3 than they are in SC. In WC3 it's more about gameplay features, such as creeps and shops.
On August 30 2009 07:22 Hamster1800 wrote: All I'm hoping for is that Blizzard is willing enough to allow for maps from outside sources to be used in their ladder system if they want to replace third party ladders. Look at how much Blizzard maps are used in sc today... I really like this league breakdown though and think as long as the maps don't suck they'll have a pretty good system.
They have said several times that they are open to foreign (in this case foreign = korea) maps and whichever ones come their way that are completely Balanced.
Blizzard has really been following the Korean scene noticeably for the last two years or so.
Hmm i really like how they will put players in each league. It makes it easier to track your progress as you improve. Definitely will keep people from getting too depressed when they get beat.
i don't think you can just play in pro leage even if you are good enough. i think there will be some special conditions for that. it will work like any other sport. IMO like you can't just play in NFL or premier league or whatever. so you have to be a member of a pro team that is accepted by Blizzard.
as for the anonymous practice via AMM. there is already a feature like this in WoW so im sure SC2 will have the same.
At the end of each 'season' they should run playoffs from the top 16 of each league, not just the pro league. This is very much similar to how they run playoffs for each realm in wc3 for the solo ladder, only this allows those players in say the bronze league, to experience a playoff, and possibly earn an icon or reward for winning the finals for their particular bracket. I feel as though those players would really appreciate the experience and this would contribute to improving the longevity of the game for those players who aren't so gifted.
thanks for the bump Dav_ i hadnt seen this thread when it was up in august, and this just got me really excited again for sc2 >_>
anyway, I'm bouncing between D/D+ right now on iccup and its frustrating to say the least, when people ask what rank i am i feel like a liar when telling them im D+ when im only there half the time
and i realized that letters wouldnt work for the ranking system, like Silver-L because it would only allow 2600 (for arguments sake) per League. and assuming there's only 5 Leagues we can expect to be in (Platinum, Gold, Silver, Bronze, Copper) that only allows 13,000 people to be ranked. but maybe that'll be a good thing seeing as you cant be in a ranked until you're in the top 13,000, or maybe Practice League will be the dump-all, like D- is where there arent ranks that consist of letters and shit, except that you get accepted into a league when your overall performances surpass the lowest ranked Copper-Z player.
On December 13 2009 14:10 GDT.Auz wrote: Just a quick thought from me.
At the end of each 'season' they should run playoffs from the top 16 of each league, not just the pro league. This is very much similar to how they run playoffs for each realm in wc3 for the solo ladder, only this allows those players in say the bronze league, to experience a playoff, and possibly earn an icon or reward for winning the finals for their particular bracket. I feel as though those players would really appreciate the experience and this would contribute to improving the longevity of the game for those players who aren't so gifted.
People will be moving so fast up and down between the different leagues that it would really only be good to have tournaments with voluntary sign-ups in the leagues. which allow for special rewards. (icons, achievements, cosmetics, etc.)
What would be interesting to see is a Pro Team Draft of sorts. Say when you get to Platinum-A's top 50, you're offered to enter the Starcraft 2 Professional Team Draft, where the teams in your area get to go through and pick the players they want, try them out, then make cuts like they do in Football when the next season starts again. This allows the best players to play professionally and keeps the top 50 spots fresh (seeing as they will consistently be switching people out to Pro League) and its not career ending if you get cut, like it is in Football (you cant go back to college and get back into the draft) because you can stay in the Platinum-A and just maintain your skill level and you'll be invited again next season, unless 50 people manage to get better than you over the course of the season.
I completely missed this as well, I'm glad it was bumped. This really gets me jazzed to play SC2...I don't really play on iccup, but I think this will work wonders for people who aren't familiar with it, with structured placing in leagues and whatnot. And having the ability to be paired with people of your skill level all the time will awesome (it was in Halo, AoM and other games of the variety). Especially since SC2 is gonna be big and stay big (if it doesn't I'd be shocked) this will be an integral part of how people think of SC2
in every leage(bronze, gold etc) there will be divisions with 100 players in each. you will be ranked against that other 99 people in your division so you will be always in the top 100
i wonder though, if you'll only be matched to people in your division, your entire league or your league and your league -1.
As in, if theres 100 people per division, chances are not all 100 are online all the time. Never mind that there will probably be less than 50 online. And imagine theres like 10 searching at the same time.
Would suck if you meet the same people ALL the time.
On December 13 2009 19:49 Radiomouse wrote: i wonder though, if you'll only be matched to people in your division, your entire league or your league and your league -1.
As in, if theres 100 people per division, chances are not all 100 are online all the time. Never mind that there will probably be less than 50 online. And imagine theres like 10 searching at the same time.
Would suck if you meet the same people ALL the time.
maybe you will play against everyone in your league but ranked only against people in your division.
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