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On August 22 2009 13:48 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 13:19 lazz wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. oh god that is so pathetic. if you want to just fuck around (read: i liek to stomp noobies because im a huge loser and it gives me an ego boost) then just play non ranked games. it's pretty fucking straight forward guys. To be honest I'm quite bad. And when I get a terrible recond on Iccup I just make a new account and stomp D players. That boosts up my confidence and it's easier to start playing on my main account right away. It's not about me sitting in the D channel all day stomping newbies, but I can do that whenever I'm on a loss streak and mentally get in shape for when I'm going to play with people my own skill.
if you want to "mentally get in shape", then play NON RANKED GAMES. then when you've decided youve bashed enough newbies there you can go play ladder. what's the problem here?
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On August 22 2009 12:31 blade55555 wrote:
lol seriously if you want to try something new why don't you just play with a clan mate, or unrated, or a friend w/e. So far you guys can't seem to argue why you can't do that too well. So far all I have heard was what? nobody does unrated in Warcraft 3 so its going to be like that in sc2 I guess. The logic of people.
lol if you want to improve why don't you lose games to people better than you rather than playing some demented form of noobcraft with other new players, where you can win occasionally?
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On August 22 2009 13:52 Lurgee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 12:31 blade55555 wrote:
lol seriously if you want to try something new why don't you just play with a clan mate, or unrated, or a friend w/e. So far you guys can't seem to argue why you can't do that too well. So far all I have heard was what? nobody does unrated in Warcraft 3 so its going to be like that in sc2 I guess. The logic of people. lol if you want to improve why don't you lose games to people better than you rather than playing some demented form of noobcraft with other new players, where you can win occasionally?
I don't learn anything playing a guy who rapes me within 5-10 minutes. Just learn to do unrated not hard at all ^^.
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On August 22 2009 13:48 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 13:19 lazz wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. oh god that is so pathetic. if you want to just fuck around (read: i liek to stomp noobies because im a huge loser and it gives me an ego boost) then just play non ranked games. it's pretty fucking straight forward guys. To be honest I'm quite bad. And when I get a terrible recond on Iccup I just make a new account and stomp D players. That boosts up my confidence and it's easier to start playing on my main account right away. It's not about me sitting in the D channel all day stomping newbies, but I can do that whenever I'm on a loss streak and mentally get in shape for when I'm going to play with people my own skill.
Thats just pathetic. You're pretty much an a perfect example for why this is being done to prevent crap like that.
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On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key.
You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe?
Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory.
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Are we sure that you can't change names despite having a main account?
Doesn't solve the problem really... but you might be able to. Either way, I disagree with this decision... In fact, I beg to ask what the point of it is. Everyone who has given an argument for it, in my opinion, hasn't really said anything I can actually appreciate. :X
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all i have to say is that this feature is fucking disgusting ....
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On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory.
If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it.
Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision.
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Way to kill convenience Blizzard. Every time we can hear about more, and more stupid limitations, they were even seriously thinking about forcing you to be online all the time when you play campaign.
On August 22 2009 08:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
3) Not wanting to play Zerg on ladder when you are A rank Protoss but C rank Zerg (this is solved by them having 1 rating for each race).
That would completely suck for race pickers/random players.
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for the record on trying new strategies and what not.
i come from wc3 and every respectable player plays custom games and practices with practice partners to work on certain aspects of there game --
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On August 22 2009 14:31 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory. If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it. Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision.
Don't you get it? When an A+ player makes a new account he smurfs everyone from D to B+. It doesn't just effect the lowest ladder rung...
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On August 22 2009 14:32 Polis wrote:Way to kill convenience Blizzard. Every time we can hear about more, and more stupid limitations, they were even seriously thinking about forcing you to be online all the time when you play campaign. Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 08:39 FrozenArbiter wrote:
3) Not wanting to play Zerg on ladder when you are A rank Protoss but C rank Zerg (this is solved by them having 1 rating for each race). That would completely suck for race pickers/random players.
Offline campaigns are actually going to be limited (whereas online campaign would be "full") from what I've heard Dustin Browder say.
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On August 22 2009 14:34 starPride wrote:
for the record on trying new strategies and what not.
i come from wc3 and every respectable player plays custom games and practices with practice partners to work on certain aspects of there game --
Because you are either completely casual, or you play almost everyday, and you have plenty of people to play against every time.
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i hope they have some better stuff to announce at blizzcon. lately the only stuff thats been leaking out the past few months has been bad news.
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We really dont know how this is going to work, they have never said you can't have or make different I.D's. They could just as easy tie in your battle.net account hidden rating with your SC2 account('s) so if you do want to make a new name you will be paired up with players still around your level of skill as of your Bnet account.
Either way even if you "can't" make more accounts because they want to stop smurfing remember the population of SC2 will be much larger then how WC3/SC is atm. Back in the day's like 10 years ago if any of you played/remember back then almost all of the skilled games were unrated... why was this, well many people played together with people they knew or on servers like kali,gamei, what not. Sure you could say that was because of map hacks,disc hacks, lack of good ladder play and not able to play it on fastest, but I know when I used to train it was with a few buddies and we'd talk to enhance our game after playing. This was also before replays lol so yah of course things will be different now.
Smurfing is only fun when you are smurfing at your skill lvl or higher and are playing competive ladder, but want your real id unknown. To go around and bash noobs has always been done by other skilled noobs who cant beat anyone with any kind of decent skill. I used to love seeing random smurfs 18-0 1400ish rating in sc thinking they all bad ass then discon hack you because you stomp them and there ego is that of a small boy who just isnt allowed to lose. Stopping smurfs also is a way to prevent the use of hacks, I've known plenty of skilled players back in the day that addmitted to map hacking on smurfs just to give them an edge and increase there gameplay. that is still considered cheating even if you play legit on main name and in tournies and what not.
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On August 22 2009 14:36 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 14:31 FirstBorn wrote:On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory. If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it. Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision. Don't you get it? When an A+ player makes a new account he smurfs everyone from D to B+. It doesn't just effect the lowest ladder rung...
You hardly even meet someone above B+ when playing casual games on your rank.
Besides, the main problem here isn't newb bashing, but the loss of intimacy your smurfs provided.
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On August 22 2009 14:31 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory. If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it. Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the main reason I support this system is because I want good games against other good players, so that I can increase my level of play and have fun doing it.
I don't want to be smurfed, and I also don't want someone with the freedom of anonymity being a cunt for the sake of being a cunt with no repercussions.
I don't want the guy who spends more time finding ways to get free wins to have any success.
I don't want people stat whoring endlessly, by constantly recreating their accounts and producing faux skill (see HoN).
I don't want people with racist or unfunny internet memes as names. (unless they are actually clever.)
The only people who benefit from having free reign over account names are assholes. Why do you think TL works? (8. THOU SHALT RESPECT YOUR ID) Its a better system for serious competitive players and I am thrilled it will be implemented
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making the one name one account thing is great because it helps against cheating and abusing and game ruining in unrated games and all that. if a player wants a bad reputation...he can't change it. that's awesome. it forces people to be good mannered or stop playing, or be bad mannered and only get to play very boring games like LOAP where no one cares if you're a cheater.
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On August 22 2009 14:44 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 14:36 Aegraen wrote:On August 22 2009 14:31 FirstBorn wrote:On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory. If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it. Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision. Don't you get it? When an A+ player makes a new account he smurfs everyone from D to B+. It doesn't just effect the lowest ladder rung... You hardly even meet someone above B+ when playing casual games on your rank. Besides, the main problem here isn't newb bashing, but the loss of intimacy your smurfs provided.
i don't mind it at all. this is a much better compromise because now you are guaranteed to play vs someone who is relatively clsoe to your skill level every game. there is no reason to be making a new account every time the competition gets too difficult.
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On August 22 2009 14:44 FirstBorn wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2009 14:36 Aegraen wrote:On August 22 2009 14:31 FirstBorn wrote:On August 22 2009 14:10 keV. wrote:On August 22 2009 13:06 FirstBorn wrote:
wow this is really pathetic as someone mentioned before
smurfing is really cool, you can play however and whoever you like without much pressure and have lots of fun. All of those who complain smufing is bad just because they get get beat up by some guys above their ranks but looking to get good stats are just lousy losers. People that are actually good get harassed by newbies so they make smurfs and play without having to worry about that. People that aren't that good make smurfs so they don't ruin their ladder score while fucking around or offracing. Everyone's having fun and there is balance in the universe.
Did Blizzard atleast give a motivation for this decision ? I don't see a real purpose to having just one account name for cd-key. You, YOU, as in YOU, yourself, having fun, is indicative of balance in the universe? Interesting. I'm no expert, but that sounds pretty contradictory. If you ddin't catch on to that phrase then I can't help with it. Imo there's too much fuss about being owned so badly in the D ranks. It's even more sad that this is pretty much the main reason people support this decision. Don't you get it? When an A+ player makes a new account he smurfs everyone from D to B+. It doesn't just effect the lowest ladder rung... You hardly even meet someone above B+ when playing casual games on your rank. Besides, the main problem here isn't newb bashing, but the loss of intimacy your smurfs provided.
When you say intimacy, what you really mean is anonymity, those are not the same thing. I'll give you a hint: One of those two things can lead to people being assholes.
How is DND tagging or turning off chat not intimate enough for someone?
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