EPTOne account per game - Goodbye to smurfing? - Page 11
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FragKrag
United States11539 Posts
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v[1.8]c
44 Posts
1: People won't have to worry about their ranking that much since each new season everyone gets reset anyway and might be on a different nick. Also people can smurf all they want each new season, they're just stuck with that nick for that whole season. 2: People who don't play ladder won't really care about their records or ratings. Blizzard can even add a ClearStats function like on ICCup to clear all your record if you really want to. (since this will affect unrated games only, it shouldn't be a huge issue) | ||
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RaiZ
2813 Posts
Sure it can be fun to be smurfing and screwing around with unorthodox plays but what stop you to do the same with your real account ? Because you don't want any loses on your beautiful account ? Gimme a break dude. Stats means nothing and you all know it, but still it seems like you're still taking it way too seriously. Whatever. I do support the idea of 1 name for 1 account. I'm tired of guessing who's who, or having a guy constantly trashtalking me just because he beat me on smurfs accounts. Progamers being followed by fans ? No problem pretty sure it can be easily avoided. I don't see any good point about smurfs yet. | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On August 22 2009 18:48 v[1.8]c wrote: I have a suggestion, since Ladder goes by seasons (generally they do,even the old Starcraft Ladder), at the beginning or when a player enters a season they get to pick 1 ID and then stuck with that for the whole season and once the season is over, they can either keep or get a new nick (the old nick will be up for grab again, limiting 1 nick per user per season). Also make it that non-ladder games don't give a rating and just shows as a stat, this will solve several problems. 1: People won't have to worry about their ranking that much since each new season everyone gets reset anyway and might be on a different nick. Also people can smurf all they want each new season, they're just stuck with that nick for that whole season. 2: People who don't play ladder won't really care about their records or ratings. Blizzard can even add a ClearStats function like on ICCup to clear all your record if you really want to. (since this will affect unrated games only, it shouldn't be a huge issue) Clearstats option would be really nice but the same people that disagreed with having multiple accounts per cd-key would disagree because they'd "get pwned by gosus that are boosting their ego". Still, the b.net 2.0 account will probably still have your total win-loss record somewhere. | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3359 Posts
On August 22 2009 16:05 keV. wrote: The official blizzard ladder is not iCCup. The fact that people use it to train for tournaments is irrelevant. The original purpose of online ladders is to rank the best online players. The rest of your post is stupid. It's ok, your entire post is stupid. I don't care what the inventer of an online ladder's purpose was, ladders are used to train and practice and nothing else. People barely care about who's actually at the top, aside from wondering what progamer it is. | ||
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MrRey
183 Posts
-What's the percentage of progamers-that-could-be-disturbed-in-a-chat compared to the casual-gamers-that-get-raped-by-a-smurfer? It's a rethorical question boys, the percentage is ridiculous, and Blizzard would be right to be on the casual gamers side. -Then, don't tell me it's that hard for a progamer to type a kind /do not disturb command during the start of the game. Please don't. Then, anonymity: -You're on the internet boy, you already got your anonymity. -Don't want to be disturb? again, the do-not-disturb command is here for you. And if the guys on your friendlists are... let's say "friends", or simply normal people, they will understand that everybody does not want to talk to anybody at anytime. Stats: -Don't suck and your stats won't suck. Period. -"Yeah smartass, but when you begin: you suck, then you improve, then your stats won't reflect your level on the longterm". True, but it's the same for everybody, so it's the same shit for everybody. And anyway, if you want to know how good a player is, the only way to know it is to play him, stats have never been worth a shit when you gotta say if a player's good or bad. To be more serious, I'd say that, in my opinion, smurfers are a bigger problem than all the very little inconveniences the system has. That being said, only the smurfers get pwned by that new feature. And that's a boon. | ||
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Piretes
Netherlands218 Posts
On August 22 2009 18:54 RaiZ wrote: I don't understand what you're all bitching about... oO Sure it can be fun to be smurfing and screwing around with unorthodox plays but what stop you to do the same with your real account ? Because you don't want any loses on your beautiful account ? Gimme a break dude. Stats means nothing and you all know it, but still it seems like you're still taking it way too seriously. Whatever. I do support the idea of 1 name for 1 account. I'm tired of guessing who's who, or having a guy constantly trashtalking me just because he beat me on smurfs accounts. Progamers being followed by fans ? No problem pretty sure it can be easily avoided. I don't see any good point about smurfs yet. The problem is that you will be tied to your rank, because you have only 1 account. I'm not really worried about my stats, but I am worried about trying new Matchups and strategies at a level I attained with another Matchup. For example, I started playing PvZ on iccup 2 weeks ago after doing well against a friend of mine in it. Since my ZvZ isnt really C (my zvp and zvt are), I'm trying to learn PvZ to play that instead. Now If i had to learn PvZ at C level instead of D, I would have lost every single game, which also means I can't play my ZvP and ZvT at C level, because my PvZ is dragging everything down. In the new system, I can't even doge vT and vP when learning PvZ, because ladder is automatic. And don't give me shit about unranked, because pretty much every game I've played with unranked games they are very hard to get a decent opponent. I want to be able to make a new account to practice new stuff. Sorry to all the newbies, but you'll have to lose to better players at every level. There's always a better player. I don't see the problem with smurfs. At C level people face B players who rape them. At B level there's always the A players moving upwards. Instead of looking to the ladder to give you perfectly balanced skill levels, try finding a few friends to play with for fun. The ladder should be about skill. If you can't beat the smurfs, then you will get stuck at the level you are at. You can get C- with less than 33% wins. If the number of smurfs exceeds 66%, then it is a problem. It isn't. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Piretes
Netherlands218 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:25 blade55555 wrote: lol its not hard to play a clan mate, friend thats your skill.. Yes do unranked this smurf crap don't give me that ^^. Lol, you really are a bad player aren't you? All your posts in this thread just scream ignorance. If I want to practice a new matchup, i'm not going to get far playing just one or two players. Everyone has a certain style. Playing publics is gauranteed to put you in much more situations you will need to learn how to counter. Unranked games aren't a good idea, because I want to know how good I am at this matchup. | ||
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Skyze
Canada2324 Posts
Im thinking if there are different servers, like east/west/europe/asia.. you could do all your hardcore gaming on europe (usually the strongest server, outside of the lag you get playing on asia) and then when you dont suck, come back on east to win the majority of games.. that would save from the 'learning period" | ||
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Piretes
Netherlands218 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:32 Skyze wrote: how hard is it to play normal games when trying new race/etc? I think there will be multiple ladders too? try it on a diff ladder. Im thinking if there are different servers, like east/west/europe/asia.. you could do all your hardcore gaming on europe (usually the strongest server, outside of the lag you get playing on asia) and then when you dont suck, come back on east to win the majority of games.. that would save from the 'learning period" If you can do this, what's the biggie with allowing multiple accounts? What you propose is also smurfing... | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3359 Posts
You know what's funnier? Listening to all the whining noobs on the thread. You got raped by someone who made a new id on iccup, big deal, don't try to bring down everyone else for it. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:34 Nightmarjoo wrote: You know what's funnier? Listening to all the whining noobs on the thread. You got raped by someone who made a new id on iccup, big deal, don't try to bring down everyone else for it. lol i'm not the one complaining about this you just contradicted yourself by calling yourself a whiny noob. your whining about not being able to smurf. Oh boo hoo go cry some more that you can't smurf  . | ||
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shaozu
China178 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:36 blade55555 wrote: lol i'm not the one complaining about this you just contradicted yourself by calling yourself a whiny noob. your whining about not being able to smurf. Oh boo hoo go cry some more that you can't smurf .Almost everyone had to go thrown the same thing getting pwned by better players and we dealed with it just fine. Some of the people in this thread give too much importance to themselves. Good koreans are foreigners aren't interested in taking wins from people like you all day long, they do it so they avoid people spamming them all the time. The ones that make most accounts to bash D level players are people around C and they're just slightly better than you and playing against them isn't that much of a waste of time. Besides, stop using the term smurf so much. Not counting FA, almost all of the people in the thread aren't good enough to be actually smurfing. Unless you're near B+/A- or above and you're a top foreigner/korean you're not literally smurfing, you just play on different accounts. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:34 Nightmarjoo wrote: You know what's funnier? Listening to all the whining noobs on the thread. You got raped by someone who made a new id on iccup, big deal, don't try to bring down everyone else for it. You cant argue with rock solid logic like this. | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:48 FirstBorn wrote: Almost everyone had to go thrown the same thing getting pwned by better players and we dealed with it just fine. rofl that's the worst logic ever. "i had to suffer, so it's only fair that you do too." grow up man. you can't smurf, so what? get over it, it's better this way. edit: lol me and cursor wrote essentially the same thing. protosshivemind | ||
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:51 lazz wrote: rofl that's the worst logic ever. "i had to suffer, so it's only fair that you do too." grow up man. you can't smurf, so what? get over it, it's better this way. edit: lol me and cursor wrote essentially the same thing. protosshivemind My point is that everyone will suffer, no matter what. How many of your games are against overwhelmingly better players anyway ? one out of ten ? | ||
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lazz
Australia3119 Posts
On August 22 2009 19:55 FirstBorn wrote: My point is that everyone will suffer, no matter what. How many of your games are against overwhelmingly better players anyway ? one out of ten ? everyone will suffer? sorry I don't understand what you mean by that. when I just started out at D level most of my games were against overwhelmingly better players. at least 7 out of 10. mind you, im in australia so I play against mostly koreans. | ||
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Too_MuchZerg
Finland2818 Posts
On August 22 2009 14:32 Polis wrote: Way to kill convenience Blizzard. Every time we can hear about more, and more stupid limitations, they were even seriously thinking about forcing you to be online all the time when you play campaign. That would completely suck for race pickers/random players. If SC2 will be like WC3 ladder racepicking is not available for ladder play. | ||
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