EPTMaybe it's just me , but the thors and the queens actually looks more thin than in WoL, am I right ? If yes, is there other units that are less fat than WoL ?
Just wanted to know, thanks !
Smaller unit sizes in hots?
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NightVision
Canada7 Posts
Maybe it's just me , but the thors and the queens actually looks more thin than in WoL, am I right ? If yes, is there other units that are less fat than WoL ? Just wanted to know, thanks ! | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On February 19 2013 12:34 NightVision wrote: Hi guys, I would like to know if the units in hots are smaller than WoL ? Maybe it's just me , but the thors and the queens actually looks more thin than in WoL, am I right ? If yes, is there other units that are less fat than WoL ? Just wanted to know, thanks ! I took some screenshots to confirm this, I believe it's not the unit sizes (there are a few units that changed sizes, ultras thors etc), but overall the view/aspect ratio/zoom are a bit different from WoL to HotS. I noticed it right away as Zerg, on the Queens as you say. But the drones are smaller too. It gives the game a much more BW feel in my opinion, which is awesome. I was actually hoping the WoL patch has this feature since it looks better imo, and from the early screenshots of 2.0.4 it seems they did bring it over. Here are two examples: WoL HotS If you save those screenshots, and then resize the windows so you have the Queens or Spawning pools right next to each other, you can see a big difference. | ||
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
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BigRedDog
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They didn't mentioned the other units though. Maybe they change the camera angle... | ||
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DBS
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On February 19 2013 12:34 NightVision wrote: Hi guys, I would like to know if the units in hots are smaller than WoL ? Maybe it's just me , but the thors and the queens actually looks more thin than in WoL, am I right ? If yes, is there other units that are less fat than WoL ? Just wanted to know, thanks ! Thors actually are treated as bigger units now. It was in a patch | ||
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Warpish
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larse
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
On February 19 2013 13:15 Warpish wrote: By the way, is anyone else annoyed by the new decals on Command Centers and Nexi ? I find them really disturbing and distracting. I don't mind it. Decals don't bother me, and they were never very interesting when they were so small. There are so many more options now though. There should even be potential for proteam decals etc. for a player to display imo. | ||
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
Blizzard's way of fixing the visual side of the deathball issue without affecting gameplay, I guess... better than nothing. Edit: But for queens it might be because they had a new queen model to introduce. If that's coming with release, then maybe they've adjusted the model scale in the data of the game to fit that model properly. They may still be using the new model and just haven't added the asset in beta (a lot of assets are missing from beta such as many doodads in the editor.) | ||
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ETisME
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I find comparing the queen against the extractor makes it more clear, the hots queen is TINY | ||
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On February 19 2013 13:54 Gfire wrote: It's probably just unit model sizes, not pathing radius in most cases. Like an art change for greater clarity. This is good, I think. If they're smaller than WoL it will be easier to make out what's going on since the unit models won't overlap so much and there will be more empty space between them. Blizzard's way of fixing the visual side of the deathball issue without affecting gameplay, I guess... better than nothing. Edit: But for queens it might be because they had a new queen model to introduce. If that's coming with release, then maybe they've adjusted the model scale in the data of the game to fit that model properly. They may still be using the new model and just haven't added the asset in beta (a lot of assets are missing from beta such as many doodads in the editor.) I'm actually surprised that we still don't know how you get the queen skin. At first everyone thought it was the default new skin, but then it wasn't when the actual beta went live. I thought it would be a pre-order bonus, but that is for the Electric Ultralisk. So it has to be a new unlockable skin, but the only zerg ones are Overlord / Zergling / Ultralisk at the moment. Hopefully it's unlocked at level 30, that would be cool | ||
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Grief.
United States4 Posts
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Spyridon
United States997 Posts
On February 19 2013 13:54 Gfire wrote: It's probably just unit model sizes, not pathing radius in most cases. Like an art change for greater clarity. This is good, I think. If they're smaller than WoL it will be easier to make out what's going on since the unit models won't overlap so much and there will be more empty space between them. Blizzard's way of fixing the visual side of the deathball issue without affecting gameplay, I guess... better than nothing. Edit: But for queens it might be because they had a new queen model to introduce. If that's coming with release, then maybe they've adjusted the model scale in the data of the game to fit that model properly. They may still be using the new model and just haven't added the asset in beta (a lot of assets are missing from beta such as many doodads in the editor.) On February 19 2013 14:14 ETisME wrote: wow I knew there were some changes and I thought it is because the UI had a few changes (the menu bar on top moved to bottom) I find comparing the queen against the extractor makes it more clear, the hots queen is TINY On February 19 2013 14:38 Grief. wrote: I can't check but I think its because of how elevated the base is. Can OP confirm if its on all heights? As I mentioned in my earlier post (and provided screenshots), it's not just the Queen, there's slight differences on everything. The spawning pool is smaller. The zoom, angle, and aspect ratio changed. The angle difference is actually most noticable on the Queen and hatch. WoL is more directly overhead, HotS is more angled. Aspect ratio is wider. Even if you just load up a game and look at the Drones, things look diff from WoL to HotS. You can see the battlefield better and it's not as cluttered. | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
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purakushi
United States3301 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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Senshin
Netherlands115 Posts
Don't know everyone else also can confirm this? I went back to WOL and its feels more sturdy and its just looks a little bit different and the effects are bad haha, I really noticed it. Anybody else? Sjoerd | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Ramiz1989
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Great thing imo. | ||
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ALPINA
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Excludos
Norway8235 Posts
On February 19 2013 13:43 Alryk wrote: I don't mind it. Decals don't bother me, and they were never very interesting when they were so small. There are so many more options now though. There should even be potential for proteam decals etc. for a player to display imo. They should do it valve style, where proteams earn a bit every time someone buys a decal of their team logo | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Gfire
United States1699 Posts
On February 19 2013 22:53 Ramiz1989 wrote: The Thor is smaller, I think they did that in the same update they removed his 250mm strike cannons, and added different Anti-air attack, it is just that they made a mistake in the patch notes, so it sounds like that it is larger, and not smaller, but it is definitely smaller. Great thing imo. Unit radius did get larger. It was .875 I think before and is now 1.0. That's completely unrelated to the model size, though. | ||
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ztnaks
United States10 Posts
On February 19 2013 14:14 nomyx wrote: I'm actually surprised that we still don't know how you get the queen skin. At first everyone thought it was the default new skin, but then it wasn't when the actual beta went live. I thought it would be a pre-order bonus, but that is for the Electric Ultralisk. So it has to be a new unlockable skin, but the only zerg ones are Overlord / Zergling / Ultralisk at the moment. Hopefully it's unlocked at level 30, that would be cool I think the new queen model was mentioned to be a different type of queen, featured in the single-player campaign. Source: www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=394643 The campaign introduces the lore of there being a variety of queen species. In our missions, the traditional multiplayer queen was replaced with a Swarm Queen, which has had its model previewed in previous battle reports. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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Goldfish
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Edit - Queen from 0.9 to 0.8. I don't think of any these (besides the Tempest) was mentioned in any HotS patch. Marine is unchanged (1 to 1). Zealot also unchanged (both 0.9 in both versions). Ultralisk 0.85 in both versions. So some units did get change in scaling. Take note scaling isn't the same as radius. The Thor for example should take up more space in HotS than in WoL (despite being scaled smaller in art) due to the radius increase. Radius increase actually helps Thor against Banelings and other AoE though. | ||
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