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[G] IdrA's Zerg versus Zerg Build Order in HotS

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Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 10 2013 08:46 GMT
#1
Hello everyone,

Since most people are now switching over to Heart of the Swarm and a lot of people are lost as far as build orders go, I'm starting a little series where we take a look at progamers and their build orders.

This is the first HotS build order video and it's about IdrA's build and strategy in Zerg versus Zerg.



If you have any questions or suggestions, feel free to post them in the chat and I'll try my best answering them.

Enjoy!
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 10 2013 09:40 GMT
#2
Thanks needed help i was in a strip club , sp boring thanks for the help .
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Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
February 10 2013 09:47 GMT
#3
On February 10 2013 18:40 Shakattak wrote:
Thanks needed help i was in a strip club , sp boring thanks for the help .

this comment raises many questions
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 10 2013 09:51 GMT
#4
On February 10 2013 18:47 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 18:40 Shakattak wrote:
Thanks needed help i was in a strip club , sp boring thanks for the help .

this comment raises many questions

Did I miss something? Who doesn't read Teamliquid and watch youtube videos in a strip club?
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Andromedan
Profile Joined December 2011
64 Posts
February 10 2013 10:34 GMT
#5
question, but shouldn't this be in hots strategy? nice video tho :3
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Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 10 2013 10:53 GMT
#6
On February 10 2013 19:34 Andromedan wrote:
question, but shouldn't this be in hots strategy? nice video tho :3

Oh woops, I forgot about that forum part (apparantly I had it hidden in the sidebar).
If mods could move this that would be great.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
February 10 2013 11:14 GMT
#7
Great! Thanks a lot. ZvZ really needs some help for my case! :D
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 10 2013 11:58 GMT
#8
Well done, your videos are great dude.
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
February 10 2013 12:08 GMT
#9
Should be useful, I'll try it out some time today.

I'm also looking for a standard non-muta ZvZ build order. So far I've just been trying to take a third base asap so that by the time mutas come, I can have spores set up there and at least have my hydra den started. If all goes well and I can saturate my third, I can usually win quite easily with a timing attack with my first few infestors, when I have +2 attack and a mostly hydra based roach/hydra army. However, my build's not very refined so I sometimes lose my third to lings, or mutas if my early game was messed with.

Just some thoughts. Not sure how many videos you make or if you take requests, but a sturdy ZvZ build w/o mutas would be most helpful.
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 10 2013 12:30 GMT
#10
On February 10 2013 21:08 Chronos. wrote:
Should be useful, I'll try it out some time today.

I'm also looking for a standard non-muta ZvZ build order. So far I've just been trying to take a third base asap so that by the time mutas come, I can have spores set up there and at least have my hydra den started. If all goes well and I can saturate my third, I can usually win quite easily with a timing attack with my first few infestors, when I have +2 attack and a mostly hydra based roach/hydra army. However, my build's not very refined so I sometimes lose my third to lings, or mutas if my early game was messed with.

Just some thoughts. Not sure how many videos you make or if you take requests, but a sturdy ZvZ build w/o mutas would be most helpful.

I've been doing the same, thing is that when they simply expand twice or go for ling bling muta instead they can still easily win. You're not really able to pressure them in any way whatsoever. Mutalisks seem much better.
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Tuczniak
Profile Joined September 2010
1561 Posts
February 10 2013 13:07 GMT
#11
Nice video, very cheerful.
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 10 2013 21:13 GMT
#12
Thanks for all the awesome comments so far guys.
Currently working on a ZvT guide as well. Will take some time though!
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dirtydurb82
Profile Joined December 2012
United States178 Posts
February 10 2013 21:28 GMT
#13
I gotta say that ZvZ will be far less dynamic in HOTS due to heavy Muta play. Infestors will be far less useful against Mutas in the new matchup. Everyone will be doing this build, or some minor variation thereof, which is the opposite of what Blizzard wants. I dunno, I'm just not as excited for HOTS as I think I should be...

Thanks for the vids though, definately a great starter tutorial for mid-level Zergs.
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plasemeious
Profile Joined November 2009
United States244 Posts
February 11 2013 00:17 GMT
#14
Thanks ZvZ is the only MU I have no idea what to do in
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 11 2013 12:12 GMT
#15
On February 11 2013 09:17 plasemeious wrote:
Thanks ZvZ is the only MU I have no idea what to do in

Try out going muta in every single one of your games and forget about Hydras and infestors for now. It certainly has upped my winrate when I stopped making other ground units work.
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walk100
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway1 Post
February 12 2013 17:46 GMT
#16
thx
otta
Lowko
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands286 Posts
February 15 2013 13:03 GMT
#17
For anyone interested, I also made a ZvT guide for HotS now. Tried to listen to the feedback and make it a little bit more straight forward. Hope it's better.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398734
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