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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On December 19 2012 07:03 Dodgin wrote: Why are they nerfing Blink? I don't get it =/ I would assume like with all build time nerfs it was because of a blink timing they didnt like (either in PvZ or PvT). I dont know about hots meta but blink is kinda strong in WoL at early points so who knows. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
[QUOTE]On December 19 2012 07:02 knOxStarcraft wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 07:00 KrazyTrumpet wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 06:57 knOxStarcraft wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 06:54 KrazyTrumpet wrote: [QUOTE]On December 19 2012 06:50 knOxStarcraft wrote: Omg you people, I posted this earlier but I'll say again - fungal is still a projectile and INFESTED TERRANS STILL SUCK. They didn't buff infestors to where they were before, they just made them a viable option, which is good considering how strong bio is now. It also starts to fix the muta only play in zvz. As for broodlord infestor now; in zvp roach hydra viper seems like a better composition from the mid to late game anyways and toss has tempest now which counters broodlords, not to mention carriers are amazing now. In zvt, the medivac buffs will allow for better multiprong attacking (MMA and Polt omgggggg) against broodlord infestor, and when going mech there will already be a buff to air armor so thor/air combos will be very good I think. [/QUOTE] Fungal still fucking freezes units. I will not be happy with the infestor, ever, until this changes. Infested Terrans are now exactly where they should be. Tank shot fodder, and good economy harass. They should never have been "mass infestors and spawn free army anywhere you feel like"[/QUOTE] Good for you... I'm saying why this happened and giving reasons why you shouldn't be freaking out about the change, unless you're just mad about how the spell works and not about the balance of it.[/QUOTE] I have never been happy about the spell works, and every time I see Blizzard is changing fungal, I get let down when it's not a change to the freeze. Every other change is 100% pointless until that is addressed.[/QUOTE] I don't even really know what to say to this... so infestors are completely imbalanced in your eyes until fungal isn't a freeze? lol[/QUOTE] You didn't answer the question, freeze isn't necessarily a balance issue, but more a spectator issue. I'm not saying I agree with the mechanic, hell, I don't even like infestors, but the idea that the freeze mechanic makes them imbalanced is wrong. Also, with infested terrans being so weak I'm really not sure that infestors will be very good, in zvp anyways. The fungal rooted the army, but in most scenarios in high level games, infested terrans were used just as heavily as fungal in battles. The freezing of units is BY FAR the biggest issue, and the biggest complaint about fungal. Have you been living under a rock for the past 6+ months? edit: wow i fucked up the formatting of this post pretty badly lol | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1126 Posts
With that said, I can understand either projectile speed OR range increase (I like the speed increase) but both does seem a little OPness. But all the reactions are so LOLworthy. | ||
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speknek
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Crawdad
614 Posts
How easy was it to dodge the projectile before? | ||
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Cattlecruiser
United States340 Posts
Fungle is a horrendous spell. Make Infestors a stronger version of BW queens and add BW Defilers. Fungles should slow units and deal the same damage. Blizzard insisting on the current fungle effects will lead to infestors being overpowered or underpowered. Blizzard needs to identify the role they want the infestors to take instead of making arbitrary adjustments to range and damage of fungles. Burrowed movement should be an upgrade. | ||
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Monochromatic
United States1000 Posts
Poll: Is the new fungal a... Buff compared to WoL (50) Nerf compared to WoL (28) About the same as in WoL (2) 80 total votes Your vote: Is the new fungal a... (Vote): Nerf compared to WoL Anyway, the widow mine change makes it kinda worthless at defending harass, making it an even more offensive unit. Fungal change is the opposite of what this game needs. Just redesign it and call it done. Medivac change is fine, might see more BC usage because of it. | ||
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On December 19 2012 07:05 kollin wrote: The trouble being that now the projectile is so fast you can't avoid it, unless you have the most godly reaction times anyone has seen in this world. Oh and it also has 10 range now... How do you know it's so fast you can't avoid it? You haven't even seen it yet. Them saying 10 > 15 they might as well be saying Glargble > Figglydodee, it makes no sense until you see it in play. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 19 2012 07:07 Adreme wrote: I would assume like with all build time nerfs it was because of a blink timing they didnt like (either in PvZ or PvT). I dont know about hots meta but blink is kinda strong in WoL at early points so who knows. I'm just going to assume that blink + mothership core all ins were too strong, it just sucks that Blink won't be a viable opener in PvP anymore. By the time you get Blink out you're going to die because you invested in tech and they invested in units ( in theory ) | ||
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Foxyshazam
United States38 Posts
On December 19 2012 06:51 tsuxiit wrote: Ah, wonder if they'll fix the Mac client. Hahahahahahaha. They would never do that. double  | ||
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Neramaar
Netherlands9 Posts
On December 19 2012 06:51 tsuxiit wrote: Ah, wonder if they'll fix the Mac client. Hahahahahahaha. They would never do that. They said that they'd fix it in the next patch - this would qualify. | ||
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RockIronrod
Australia1369 Posts
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
I know its only beta then blizzard likes to troll us freely while they can. | ||
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SxP
Netherlands51 Posts
But infestors should not be a core unit, it should be support for the real core zerg army. | ||
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Graphix
United States208 Posts
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On December 19 2012 07:07 knOxStarcraft wrote: You didn't answer the question, freeze isn't necessarily a balance issue, but more a spectator issue. I'm not saying I agree with the mechanic, hell, I don't even like infestors, but the idea that the freeze mechanic makes them imbalanced is wrong. Also, with infested terrans being so weak I'm really not sure that infestors will be very good, in zvp anyways. The fungal rooted the army, but in most scenarios in high level games, infested terrans were used just as heavily as fungal in battles. edit: wow i fucked up the formatting of this post pretty badly lol Freezing is very much a balance issue, are you high? fixed the formatting | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
Seriously, Blizzard takes one step forward and two backwards. | ||
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Berceno
Spain401 Posts
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Snowbear
Korea (South)1925 Posts
Infestors basicly counter every single unit in the game, and I would be fine with this if ghosts get their old snipe back. Reason for the snipe nerf was that it countered every zerg unit.. | ||
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