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BeeNu
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kaNt-
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On December 19 2012 22:31 HomeWorld wrote: Hey, those buffs for zerg (and nerfs for terran/protoss) must be inline with the theme of upcoming HotS. Infestors shouldn't even existed in SC2, free units (that benefits from upgrades) as long as you do not suicide your infestors/have sufficient energy, that damn most inept spell combo ever conceived, dot+root = decimate tens of units in few seconds, being more potent than a dark templar/banshee when you sneak it behind enemy lines..., what else, you have a better chance to notice a cloaked unit moving around, but you need 100x+ magnifying goggles to spot burrowed infestors movement.. Yup, infestors usage is so retarted. Click aoe ensnare ability, with binding cloud that combo is sooooooo stupidly good... In this days playing zerg doesn´t requiere as much skill as in 2010 early 2011, NesTea domination time. Good times  | ||
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Ramiz1989
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On December 19 2012 22:12 kaNt- wrote: Mutas=faster, with high regen Infestors=better than WoL Hydras=speed Viper=cloud is very strong cloud+infestors+speedy hydras ... Profit? Not defending this change, since I think they could do different things to the Infestor(or other units) to compensate for the nerfs, but if you actually think that Infestors are better than in WoL, you are in denial. | ||
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On December 19 2012 22:15 Decendos wrote: infestor is way worse than in WoL, mutas are unplayable in ZvT, hydras are faster but still suck as a unit because they got not a single buff. so stop telling lies. How is fungal heavily nerfed? It's a projectile that does not behave like a projectile (no pdd interference), but it's very fast, and has more range than in WoL. The damage is exactly the same. As for IT's, they mainly take tanks shots in TvZ, and they are marginally worse at that (3 shots v 4). | ||
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kaNt-
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On December 19 2012 22:35 Ramiz1989 wrote: Not defending this change, since I think they could do different things to the Infestor(or other units) to compensate for the nerfs, but if you actually think that Infestors are better than in WoL, you are in denial. Fast proyectile fungal is not as good as in WoL, but they are 15 speed. 10 range is the dealbreaker, +1 range than WoL. Proyectile fungal IS easy to use, no discussion here, unless you are lame or something. Zergs QQing about FFs? Why don´t you try to use them an see how difficult it is? Toss requieres PERFECT, i repeat PERFECT ffs to NOT die. | ||
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Rider517
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Ramiz1989
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On December 19 2012 22:38 kaNt- wrote: Fast proyectile fungal is not as good as in WoL, but they are 15 speed. 10 range is the dealbreaker, +1 range than WoL. Proyectile fungal IS easy to use, no discussion here, unless you are lame or something. Zergs QQing about FFs? Why don´t you try to use them an see how difficult it is? Toss requieres PERFECT, i repeat PERFECT ffs to NOT die. So, if anything, lets say Fungal is even, has more range, but it isn't instant. But what about Infested Terrans and their nerfs? Whole late game Zerg composition is overpowered(in WoL) mostly because of the Infested Terrans and their combination with Fungal Growth. So right now, we have changed fungal, and a heavily nerfed Infested Terrans, I just don't understand how Infestor is better than in WoL? | ||
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alwinuz
Netherlands77 Posts
On December 19 2012 20:14 costinii wrote: Make the infestor useful. You want to add range? Very well. Add the range, but then you must also give more range to ghosts and templars. . THIS I almost never see, templars and gosths feedback snipe emp infestors just because infestertors are superior to that. in TvP this is better balanced | ||
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kaNt-
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On December 19 2012 22:51 Ramiz1989 wrote: So, if anything, lets say Fungal is even, has more range, but it isn't instant. But what about Infested Terrans and their nerfs? Whole late game Zerg composition is overpowered(in WoL) mostly because of the Infested Terrans and their combination with Fungal Growth. So right now, we have changed fungal, and a heavily nerfed Infested Terrans, I just don't understand how Infestor is better than in WoL? -.- I never said IT was imba. I said proyectile fungal is good and easy to use and they have +1 range. IT are good as they are now, 70 hp while hatching is ok. Another thing, i don´t know why infestors doesn´t have a ripple while they move burrowed. DTs, banshee, observer are EASILY detected, unlike infestors. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On December 19 2012 22:38 kaNt- wrote: Proyectile fungal IS easy to use, no discussion here, unless you are lame or something. Zergs QQing about FFs? Why don´t you try to use them an see how difficult it is? Toss requieres PERFECT, i repeat PERFECT ffs to NOT die. Wow, thanks for the lols. | ||
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kaNt-
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No vortex and tempest=enough? LOL NO WAY! protoss is 100% doomed | ||
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Decendos
Germany1341 Posts
On December 19 2012 22:53 kaNt- wrote: -.- I never said IT was imba. I said proyectile fungal is good and easy to use and they have +1 range. IT are good as they are now, 70 hp while hatching is ok. Another thing, i don´t know why infestors doesn´t have a ripple while they move burrowed. DTs, banshee, observer are EASILY detected, unlike infestors. lol most biased player ever. P is by far the best race in HOTS right now. fungal is a bit worse now than in WoL because you can dodge it, especially with bio and blinkstalker and mutas. IT ist A LOT worse: egg armor from 10 to 2. egg health from 100 to 70. and the hardest nerf: no more upgrades for IT. thats by far the hugest one. they do pretty much 0 damage vs 3 armor now. so stop your biased trolling. infestor is now not useless anymore. its a good but not OP unit which is perfect and how it should be. its a viable lairtech option now. sadly it is still one of the only viable ones. mutas suck ZvT, hydras suck without viper (and suck overall vs bio, storm, airtoss even with viper), SHs just suck and no buffs to nydus, ovidrop, burrowmovement yet. so i really hope there will be a huge patch to buff those units like the T buffs in patch 8. | ||
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Rnevermore
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kaNt-
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What kind of shi* is that? 2 good things in hots Oracle and tempest. Bad things Blink nerf Do you think that is enough to say that toss is the best race? | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
This will just lead to the same old shit, once a fungal hits you can get chained and your army is gone. | ||
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Decendos
Germany1341 Posts
On December 19 2012 23:08 Nausea wrote: Can someone please explain to me why the fuck they won't try lowering the 100% snare? This boggles my mind to no end. i also dont know. that would be the best change. just make fungal instant or very fast projectile and slow instead of root while buffing other zerg units to compensate. we´ll see, maybe they´ll test it. | ||
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Maluk
France987 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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KazmA
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
However, I'm very very very curious: why hasn't Blizzard fired DKim? | ||
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