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KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 06 2012 22:59 GMT
#1721
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I can't tell if people are seriously trying to figure out ways to make something like this work, or are just being silly. Some people seem dead serious
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Niska
Profile Joined March 2011
31 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 23:05:10
December 06 2012 23:04 GMT
#1722
Yay Blizzard. I don't know why Zergs are complaining, some Zergs that is. As a master zerg I think these are great changes. Some may be overkill but that is a good idea because it helps people understand how to use the units, then they nerf them a little once we get the jiz of it. Yes jiz of it.
Also to those saying hydra speed and muta speed doesn't help the stats. Think of a helion but 50% slower move speed. Dont you think you would be able to do way less damage with it then before? If your answer is not yes then you are not thinking about it properly. Adding speed to Hydras and Mutas will make it easier to micro thus making it easier to do more damage. Instead of buffing the damage or health they will first try to make the micro easier, they even stated if this is not enough they will buff them more.
We all need to play many games in all MU's and BO's and really try to view the game without bias. Obviously Blizzard is reading these threads and taking us seriously so please for the love of god don't mess it up with statements of emotion. And to those who are posting and still havn't pre ordered the beta... what the hell are you waiting for!!
ZjiublingZ
Profile Joined September 2011
United Arab Emirates439 Posts
December 06 2012 23:06 GMT
#1723
On December 07 2012 07:59 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I can't tell if people are seriously trying to figure out ways to make something like this work, or are just being silly. Some people seem dead serious


On a serious (and realistic) note, people will probably use Vipers to pull back Ultras after a fight they are losing. Will look pretty funny.
Crawdad
Profile Joined September 2012
614 Posts
December 06 2012 23:07 GMT
#1724
On December 07 2012 07:59 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I can't tell if people are seriously trying to figure out ways to make something like this work, or are just being silly. Some people seem dead serious


Originally, it was a satirical post based on all of the complaints that Ultras can't "close the gap" without Burrow Charge.
rembrant
Profile Joined July 2012
62 Posts
December 06 2012 23:11 GMT
#1725
On December 07 2012 07:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I would almost pay money to see your face droop after you test this out.


What's better than sending your expensive tier 3 spellcaster on a suicide mission? Sending a dozen overlords along with him and supply blocking yourself. XD
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
December 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1726
The new fungal projectile is so slow it can be dodged by a thor. Thats unbelievable. Muta only strat possible in ZvZ now. 2013 ZvZ 4gate vs 4gate.
저그 화이팅
Pookie Monster
Profile Joined October 2010
United States303 Posts
December 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1727
LOVE EVERYTHING except the seeker missle which is now a yamato cannon...pretty lame change it back and reduce the energy consumption. TVT is going to be either you open concussive marauder or you lose to reapers.
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LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
December 06 2012 23:16 GMT
#1728
On December 07 2012 08:11 rembrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 07:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I would almost pay money to see your face droop after you test this out.


What's better than sending your expensive tier 3 spellcaster on a suicide mission? Sending a dozen overlords along with him and supply blocking yourself. XD


Watching Idra do it.
EG<3
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 06 2012 23:17 GMT
#1729
On December 07 2012 08:16 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
The new fungal projectile is so slow it can be dodged by a thor. Thats unbelievable. Muta only strat possible in ZvZ now. 2013 ZvZ 4gate vs 4gate.


Video?
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rembrant
Profile Joined July 2012
62 Posts
December 06 2012 23:17 GMT
#1730
On December 07 2012 08:16 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:11 rembrant wrote:
On December 07 2012 07:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I would almost pay money to see your face droop after you test this out.


What's better than sending your expensive tier 3 spellcaster on a suicide mission? Sending a dozen overlords along with him and supply blocking yourself. XD


Watching Idra do it.

Lol seriously?
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
December 06 2012 23:18 GMT
#1731
On December 07 2012 08:07 Crawdad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 07:59 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
I can't tell if people are seriously trying to figure out ways to make something like this work, or are just being silly. Some people seem dead serious


Originally, it was a satirical post based on all of the complaints that Ultras can't "close the gap" without Burrow Charge.


Yeah, but then I think some people started taking it seriously.
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
December 06 2012 23:21 GMT
#1732
On December 07 2012 08:16 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
The new fungal projectile is so slow it can be dodged by a thor. Thats unbelievable. Muta only strat possible in ZvZ now. 2013 ZvZ 4gate vs 4gate.


i assume u have played already over 1000 games to make that assumption... oh wait
yo
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
December 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#1733
On December 07 2012 08:21 Killmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:16 Mr. Nefarious wrote:
The new fungal projectile is so slow it can be dodged by a thor. Thats unbelievable. Muta only strat possible in ZvZ now. 2013 ZvZ 4gate vs 4gate.


i assume u have played already over 1000 games to make that assumption... oh wait


Also if a unit moves as soon as it's cast, yoou should be able to get away.
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LOLItsRyann
Profile Joined April 2011
England551 Posts
December 06 2012 23:23 GMT
#1734
On December 07 2012 08:17 rembrant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:16 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On December 07 2012 08:11 rembrant wrote:
On December 07 2012 07:59 LOLItsRyann wrote:
On December 07 2012 07:56 Insoleet wrote:
The best way to use vipers to pull ultra in opponent army is to stack them with overlord before going. This way, overlord are doing damage buffers and you are pretty sure your vipers do not act like suicide machines


I would almost pay money to see your face droop after you test this out.


What's better than sending your expensive tier 3 spellcaster on a suicide mission? Sending a dozen overlords along with him and supply blocking yourself. XD


Watching Idra do it.

Lol seriously?


Why not? I'd rather laugh at Idra doing it than do it myself. I fail to see the point you're missing :p
EG<3
Crawdad
Profile Joined September 2012
614 Posts
December 06 2012 23:37 GMT
#1735
On December 07 2012 08:23 LOLItsRyann wrote:
Why not? I'd rather laugh at Idra doing it than do it myself. I fail to see the point you're missing :p


I think they're asking if Idra really did that or not.
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
December 06 2012 23:38 GMT
#1736
David Kim forced blizzard's hand by publishing these changes online even though they hadn't been implemented yet, and now blizz dev team is scrambling to get them finished and into production. DK, the Duke Nukem of SC2.

Always bet on DK \m/
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 06 2012 23:41 GMT
#1737
On December 07 2012 08:38 mikedebo wrote:
David Kim forced blizzard's hand by publishing these changes online even though they hadn't been implemented yet, and now blizz dev team is scrambling to get them finished and into production. DK, the Duke Nukem of SC2.

Always bet on DK \m/


They've been implemented, we got to play for like 2 hours yesterday.
MMA: The true King of Wings
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 23:49:20
December 06 2012 23:49 GMT
#1738
Are these changes live? and is the server up?
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
December 06 2012 23:49 GMT
#1739
On December 07 2012 08:49 Scila wrote:
Are these changes live? and is the server up?


Changes live, server dead, community mad.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
December 06 2012 23:51 GMT
#1740
On December 07 2012 08:49 Harrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2012 08:49 Scila wrote:
Are these changes live? and is the server up?


Changes live, server dead, community mad.


Thanks. Guess I'll wait on my preorder for the beta key.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
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