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CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
September 05 2012 03:24 GMT
#261
On September 05 2012 12:22 ohampatu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:14 Brahoono wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:12 Dosey wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:06 Brahoono wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:03 johnny123 wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:01 Banishment wrote:
Im quite hyped but HOTS but this new Feature that makes you see the current Workers that are mining at every Mainbuilding needs to go! Thats just more than dumb. Try it out Blizz and remove it.

If you want Sc2 to remain a competitive game, please remove it.

Its an overly simplification of the game.



i disagree . and you have given zero reasons why it should be removed.



Its a skill to optimally saturate your bases and to always have exacly 3 guys on gas. To actually master that is pretty fucking hard. I'm masters and can say I absolutely have not mastered that. Now every idiot can saturate their bases optimally, because it got fucking easy.

Also the fact that basically everybody would have considered that feature a cheat in Wings of Liberty should be enough reason to remove that fast....really fast.

I'm masters and just see it as a distraction that clutters the screen. Learning how to saturate my bases equally and keep count of my workers was the first thing I mastered. It's really not that difficult...


Sure thats why I added in optimally. I'm pretty sure you will have quite many games where you might have 2 or 4 drones in gas for quite some time. Or have a base over- or undersaturated slightly. Won't ever happen again, because Blizzard takes care of that.


No, those games are far and few between, I can't remember last time I fucked up on gas. It takes half a second to notice mistake


Maybe 1 in 100 of my games ill do something stupid like misrally scvs to the gas, and you can't see it easily because all the scvs stack up on each other. The change will help that kinda stuff, but when i see such things in pro matches, i find it actually adds a bit of intrigue to the game, it adds some drama. This is overall a good thing i say. So take the worker counts out plz Blizz.
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Brahoono
Profile Joined September 2012
119 Posts
September 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#262
On September 05 2012 12:23 Plansix wrote:
Ignore Brahoono, he joined Team Liquid yesterday for the sole purpose of badmouthing heart of the swarm and every change, real, test or otherwise. Nothing positive has come from him and nothing will. You arguments fall on deaf ears.



Naw....Viper, Swarmhost, Widowmine and Oracle in general are all quite cool.


Hate the dumbed down UI changes, Tempest and Warhound though ~~
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#263
On September 05 2012 12:22 Brahoono wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:19 Dosey wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:14 Brahoono wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:12 Dosey wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:06 Brahoono wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:03 johnny123 wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:01 Banishment wrote:
Im quite hyped but HOTS but this new Feature that makes you see the current Workers that are mining at every Mainbuilding needs to go! Thats just more than dumb. Try it out Blizz and remove it.

If you want Sc2 to remain a competitive game, please remove it.

Its an overly simplification of the game.



i disagree . and you have given zero reasons why it should be removed.



Its a skill to optimally saturate your bases and to always have exacly 3 guys on gas. To actually master that is pretty fucking hard. I'm masters and can say I absolutely have not mastered that. Now every idiot can saturate their bases optimally, because it got fucking easy.

Also the fact that basically everybody would have considered that feature a cheat in Wings of Liberty should be enough reason to remove that fast....really fast.

I'm masters and just see it as a distraction that clutters the screen. Learning how to saturate my bases equally and keep count of my workers was the first thing I mastered. It's really not that difficult...


Sure thats why I added in optimally. I'm pretty sure you will have quite many games where you might have 2 or 4 drones in gas for quite some time. Or have a base over- or undersaturated slightly. Won't ever happen again, because Blizzard takes care of that.

The gas thing should never be an issue and makes me question your rank. You are aware that a worker count in gas is already in effect, right? You simply click the extractor and it tells you. The only time you see a pro make this error is if they are macroing away from their base, in which case this change would affect nothing because they still wouldn't see it.


Dude that shit is not hard for like the first 15 minutes. But in a TvZ for example where often times hell breaks loose with drops etc. where you will lose workers etc. and you macro of 4-5 bases it is fucking easy to miss these things and to not be optimally saturated at every point in the game.

Blizzard basically removes a potential mistake a player can make which is generally a bad thing.

Again, if you're clicking over your bases so fast that you don't notice that your gas is over/underloaded, you wouldn't see the number either. Seeing 3 medium sized workers>seeing small numbers written in bad text. So I see this as a non-issue and more of a distraction.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 05 2012 03:26 GMT
#264
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano

Downloading hots right now, i'll try to get a stream for you in like 1 hour or so


:D
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Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
September 05 2012 03:27 GMT
#265
Can't believe terran got even more insane shit to load into medivac and kill hundreds of workers and protoss gets is something to tickle them from halfway across map or goop them up
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 03:28 GMT
#266
On September 05 2012 12:26 Za7oX wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano

Downloading hots right now, i'll try to get a stream for you in like 1 hour or so


:D


With all the HOTS changes Stephano's ZvP is going to be crazy O_O!
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 05 2012 03:29 GMT
#267
On September 05 2012 12:28 GinDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:26 Za7oX wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano

Downloading hots right now, i'll try to get a stream for you in like 1 hour or so


:D


With all the HOTS changes Stephano's ZvP is going to be crazy O_O!

They changed the roach?
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
September 05 2012 03:30 GMT
#268
Congrats to all Beta invitees! Do your best for the community!
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Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
September 05 2012 03:31 GMT
#269
On September 05 2012 12:29 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:28 GinDo wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:26 Za7oX wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano

Downloading hots right now, i'll try to get a stream for you in like 1 hour or so


:D


With all the HOTS changes Stephano's ZvP is going to be crazy O_O!

They changed the roach?

Hehehehehehe.

Excited to watch it, though.
Big water
algorithm0r
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada486 Posts
September 05 2012 03:33 GMT
#270
I wish my mom were here. She always said my endless hours on the ladder would be good for something one day.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2012 03:33 GMT
#271
On September 05 2012 12:26 Brahoono wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:23 Plansix wrote:
Ignore Brahoono, he joined Team Liquid yesterday for the sole purpose of badmouthing heart of the swarm and every change, real, test or otherwise. Nothing positive has come from him and nothing will. You arguments fall on deaf ears.



Naw....Viper, Swarmhost, Widowmine and Oracle in general are all quite cool.


Hate the dumbed down UI changes, Tempest and Warhound though ~~


Bringing out the important aspects of the UI is call "Surfacing". If it when you have a cluttered, but functional UI for the high end user. These are useless or overwhelming to new users and need to be streamlined to allow them to master the system through use of the most important features.. Windows did this with Microsoft office and Apple does it all the time. Streamling the UI has no effect on the majority of our games, but will assist newer players to playing correctly. And I have no doubt that it will be optional.

It has no affect on anyone who is active on Team Liquid and will only help people taking their first steps into 1v1 Starcraft 2. There is nothing bad about it unless you want the game to be hard to get into for no other reason than it just should be.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 05 2012 03:34 GMT
#272
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
September 05 2012 03:35 GMT
#273
On September 05 2012 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.


Whose stream are you watching if you don't mind me asking?
MMA: The true King of Wings
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#274
On September 05 2012 12:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.


Whose stream are you watching if you don't mind me asking?


Thorzain
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#275
On September 05 2012 12:31 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:29 Dosey wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:28 GinDo wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:26 Za7oX wrote:
MillStephano ‏@MillStephano

Downloading hots right now, i'll try to get a stream for you in like 1 hour or so


:D


With all the HOTS changes Stephano's ZvP is going to be crazy O_O!

They changed the roach?

Hehehehehehe.

Excited to watch it, though.


I heard there was a new roach upgrade. Faster Regen is back apparently.
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#276
Hahaha Axel just completely pwned Drew with mass Swarm Host Infestor.
Nafa
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
129 Posts
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#277
On September 05 2012 12:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.


Whose stream are you watching if you don't mind me asking?


Im guessing Thorzains. I love it how its the first hours of beta and people are already crying their eyes out.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
September 05 2012 03:36 GMT
#278
On September 05 2012 12:36 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 12:35 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On September 05 2012 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.


Whose stream are you watching if you don't mind me asking?


Thorzain


he ate those roaches lol
byah!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 05 2012 03:37 GMT
#279
On September 05 2012 12:34 Pandain wrote:
Oh my god the new Mech is basically just a marine maruder army that doesn't involve stim, kiting, or micro. Or healing. Just an amove blob. Literally.


You heard it! Day one of the beta and mech is the new death ball. Terran is broken and requires no skill. Get the pitch forks and torches, we are going to David Kim's house!!!!!
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
September 05 2012 03:39 GMT
#280
I want a Key
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