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I recommend anyone reading this thread go and check out this link. I just spent like 20 minutes clicking through all the hyperlinks explaining stereotypes of science fiction. It's very entertaining and makes a lot of sense. Good random tidbits to have in your head, imo.
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This isn't the first unrealistic aspect of the lore. It's safe to assume it's all happening in another universe where only some of our notions apply. The easiest explanation is that they've made the planets rather resemble our Earth countries and typical land areas - each planet corresponds to one type of land on Earth. That's very typical for people when imagining things. On the good side, it's also intuitively (if one doesn't put thought into it) the easiest to go along with, and to appreciate as viewer or reader.
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On October 15 2011 12:10 SpoR wrote:
I thought that a binary system was impossible to have a planet in the goldilocks zone? It would either be way too far away or get sucked in or fried every year.
If the 2 stars orbit each other at large ranges as seems to be the case with alpha centauri (although it may get too close due to eliptical orbit), it should be possible for planets to orbit just one of them closely enough for the other to have no real effect on climate etc. I don't think that throws them out anymore than a planet having moons. Assuming similarly sized stars in effect its more like two solar systems orbiting each other which shouldn't stop either or both having earth like planets.
If its a small star closely orbiting a big one that all goes to bits and you end up with a planet in a silly big orbit. I dont think stars come bright enough to heat a planet at 60AU 
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So Bel'Shir is what broke your guys' suspension of disbelief eh? Personally I'd be happy if someone could explain this one to me:
![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/7/7e/NewFolsom_SC2_Art1.jpg)
or this one:
![[image loading]](http://images.wikia.com/starcraft/images/4/46/Redstone_SC2_Game1.jpg)
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Immense amounts of greenhouse gases or maybe multiple light sources (close orbiting stars, multiple suns) could make the entire planet basically a jungle resting on top of pure ocean.
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On October 16 2011 09:10 Gradius wrote:
So Bel'Shir is what broke your guys' suspension of disbelief eh? Personally I'd be happy if someone could explain this one to me:
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well, the planet is hollow, but the surface has gravity, which could mean a couple of things:
1. new folsom prison actually rests on the interior of the sphere with gravity provided by rotation. The Terran could have blasted the center out of a moonlet or asteroid and used those giant girders to stabilize the remenants. why they would do that just to create a prison I have no idea.
2. there is something really dense in the center of the sphere, like maybe a mini-black hole. A black hole could explain the bright light in the center of the sphere, as radiation is emmited as gas from the surrounding nebula is accreted by the black hole. The Terran seem like they would be incapable of engineering that advanced, so may be it is an artifact of the xel-naga, or maybe some sort of energy gathering/production facility for the protoss that was captured by the dominion and converted into a prison.
3. gravity plating. Which obviously exists in the SC universe (or how is there gravity on the Hyperion?), kinda boring explaination though.
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ahhh.... nope, can't think of anything to explain that.
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On October 16 2011 12:06 Namrufus wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 09:10 Gradius wrote:
So Bel'Shir is what broke your guys' suspension of disbelief eh? Personally I'd be happy if someone could explain this one to me:
+ Show Spoiler +well, the planet is hollow, but the surface has gravity, which could mean a couple of things: 1. new folsom prison actually rests on the interior of the sphere with gravity provided by rotation. The Terran could have blasted the center out of a moonlet or asteroid and used those giant girders to stabilize the remenants. why they would do that just to create a prison I have no idea. 2. there is something really dense in the center of the sphere, like maybe a mini-black hole. A black hole could explain the bright light in the center of the sphere, as radiation is emmited as gas from the surrounding nebula is accreted by the black hole. The Terran seem like they would be incapable of engineering that advanced, so may be it is an artifact of the xel-naga, or maybe some sort of energy gathering/production facility for the protoss that was captured by the dominion and converted into a prison. 3. gravity plating. Which obviously exists in the SC universe (or how is there gravity on the Hyperion?), kinda boring explaination though. + Show Spoiler +ahhh.... nope, can't think of anything to explain that.
A hollow sphere can still have gravity generated by it's mass, doesn't need to have a "core".
(I think.)
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On October 16 2011 12:49 dranko wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 12:06 Namrufus wrote:On October 16 2011 09:10 Gradius wrote:
So Bel'Shir is what broke your guys' suspension of disbelief eh? Personally I'd be happy if someone could explain this one to me:
+ Show Spoiler +well, the planet is hollow, but the surface has gravity, which could mean a couple of things: 1. new folsom prison actually rests on the interior of the sphere with gravity provided by rotation. The Terran could have blasted the center out of a moonlet or asteroid and used those giant girders to stabilize the remenants. why they would do that just to create a prison I have no idea. 2. there is something really dense in the center of the sphere, like maybe a mini-black hole. A black hole could explain the bright light in the center of the sphere, as radiation is emmited as gas from the surrounding nebula is accreted by the black hole. The Terran seem like they would be incapable of engineering that advanced, so may be it is an artifact of the xel-naga, or maybe some sort of energy gathering/production facility for the protoss that was captured by the dominion and converted into a prison. 3. gravity plating. Which obviously exists in the SC universe (or how is there gravity on the Hyperion?), kinda boring explaination though. + Show Spoiler +ahhh.... nope, can't think of anything to explain that. A hollow sphere can still have gravity generated by it's mass, doesn't need to have a "core". (I think.)
oh yeah, thats true, the planet would have to be really huge to generate anything similar to earth gravity though.
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On October 11 2011 23:33 Koreish wrote:
Deserts are defined by little to no precipitation. You can have an Ice Desert so long as it doesn't snow, rain, hail, etc. A prime example on earth are the poles. Both have Ice since it is so cold but neither receive much precipitation also due to the extreme cold.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/precipitation
pre·cip·i·ta·tion (pr-sp-tshn)
n.
1. A headlong fall or rush.
2. Abrupt or impulsive haste.
3. A hastening or acceleration, especially one that is sudden or unexpected: He is responsible for the precipitation of his own demise.
4. Meteorology
a. Any form of water, such as rain, snow, sleet, or hail, that falls to the earth's surface.
b. The quantity of such water falling in a specific area within a specific period.
5. Chemistry The process of separating a substance from a solution as a solid.
Ice desert? lol
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It's really early in the morning and I definitely read this thread title in the side-bar as "Weird Pants in Lore." Which would also be a remarkably interesting thread.
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They built in space those gigantic metal grids and then lower them with anti grav repulsors until they could fit in the frames previously attached to the planet crust.
Of course, they would have to strip mine a small moon or asteroid just to get enough raw iron to do that, but in the official page is said that the rare minerals in the planet were worth the cost, until they found Mar Sara and begun strip mining it. But anyway, when you have a whole sector in your hands, moons can be mined as they were just caves in earth...
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If planet rotation angular speed is fast enough to match with the tangencial speed needed for the fragments to stay in orbit in geosyncronus fashion, that planet model is factible. As seen in the art, nearly every fragment is at the same radious from the core so it is possible all of them are orbiting at the same speed.
How the fragments got there? maybe an internal crack, followed by gas pressure expansion and then gravity slowing its speed until they reach geosyncronus orbit. Also, it is possible some of the fragments have magnetic rocks which repulse the others but cannot break free due to gravity, thus achieving balance.
I haven't made orbital calculations, but it would be interesting to see how much faster will have the planet to rotate, to achieve that kind of angular speeds. Maybe days are one hour long (which will explain why lava tides are in like 10 minutes in the game...)
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If planet rotation angular speed is fast enough to match with the tangencial speed needed for the fragments to stay in orbit in geosyncronus fashion, that planet model is factible. As seen in the art, nearly every fragment is at the same radious from the core so it is possible all of them are orbiting at the same speed.
How the fragments got there? maybe an internal crack, followed by gas pressure expansion and then gravity slowing its speed until they reach geosyncronus orbit. Also, it is possible some of the fragments have magnetic rocks which repulse the others but cannot break free due to gravity, thus achieving balance.
I haven't made orbital calculations, but it would be interesting to see how much faster will have the planet to rotate, to achieve that kind of angular speeds. The speed the rocks need to achieve depends on many factors - the further they are from the planet, the faster they need to go to follow the planet rotation. On the other hand, if they are close to the planet, they need to go faster because the gravity is stronger. Same if the planet is bigger. We'd need a scale of some sort to make the calculation.
We have a quarter of the planet that was blown into space, only an impact with a moon or a smaller planet could do that. No amount of volcanic activity could even get close to that.
I can't make all this remarks without adding that Raynor asks the adjutant what power source is keeping the Char platforms in geostationnary orbit. The entire point of being in orbit, particularly in geostationnary orbit, far above the atmosphere, is that you will stay there at constant speed for centuries without the need of any power source. tvtropes would rank that as You Fail Physics Forever.
So trying to explain why the planets have this particular shape is like trying to explain gameplay mechanics: you can have great ideas, but keep in mind no one at Blizzard ever cared about whether or not it made sense.
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On October 17 2011 17:48 Telenil wrote:Show nested quote +If planet rotation angular speed is fast enough to match with the tangencial speed needed for the fragments to stay in orbit in geosyncronus fashion, that planet model is factible. As seen in the art, nearly every fragment is at the same radious from the core so it is possible all of them are orbiting at the same speed.
How the fragments got there? maybe an internal crack, followed by gas pressure expansion and then gravity slowing its speed until they reach geosyncronus orbit. Also, it is possible some of the fragments have magnetic rocks which repulse the others but cannot break free due to gravity, thus achieving balance.
I haven't made orbital calculations, but it would be interesting to see how much faster will have the planet to rotate, to achieve that kind of angular speeds. The speed the rocks need to achieve depends on many factors - the further they are from the planet, the faster they need to go to follow the planet rotation. On the other hand, if they are close to the planet, they need to go faster because the gravity is stronger. Same if the planet is bigger. We'd need a scale of some sort to make the calculation. We have a quarter of the planet that was blown into space, only an impact with a moon or a smaller planet could do that. No amount of volcanic activity could even get close to that. I can't make all this remarks without adding that Raynor asks the adjutant what power source is keeping the Char platforms in geostationnary orbit. The entire point of being in orbit, particularly in geostationnary orbit, far above the atmosphere, is that you will stay there at constant speed for centuries without the need of any power source. tvtropes would rank that as You Fail Physics Forever. So trying to explain why the planets have this particular shape is like trying to explain gameplay mechanics: you can have great ideas, but keep in mind no one at Blizzard ever cared about whether or not it made sense.
I'm sure about that planets got in the game because they were cool and fun, not physically factible, but anyway, it is fun to teorize.
BTW, geosyncronus orbit depends on the rotation speed of the planet. In earth is at 36.000 km above ground, but in a planet with faster rotation it will be closer, maybe close enough to interact with the upper atmosphere particles, thus slowing down whatever you put there, and thus needing some power source to keep it in orbit.
Indeed current low orbit satellites need to adjust orbit from time to time due to that friction. Not geosyncronus, but that is because it is far enough.
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On October 17 2011 15:26 See.Blue wrote:
It's really early in the morning and I definitely read this thread title in the side-bar as "Weird Pants in Lore." Which would also be a remarkably interesting thread.
Sci-fi wise and story-telling wise, Im not satisfied with pants in Starcraft lore either,
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Im no expert, correct me if im wrong
but on earth the equator is the hottest place and the poles the coldest, because of the angle to the sun.
Our planet rotates around the 23° axis, and orbits around the sun. Not every planet does that. (see the moon for example)
A different rotation, however unlikely could then result in a relatively even surface.
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On October 12 2011 16:40 [F_]aths wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2011 11:48 HaRuHi wrote:![[image loading]](http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100327233147/starcraft/images/thumb/4/41/Bel%27shir_SC2_Art2.jpg/200px-Bel%27shir_SC2_Art2.jpg) Bel'Shir is located in an ex-dualstarsystem, one star exploded and made a huge nebula composed of Na and Fe. Binary starsystems cannot have planets. Sadly, many science fiction universes do feature binary star systems with planets, because they like to show two suns at the horizon.
apparently they can....
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2011/15sep_doublesuns/
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On October 18 2011 08:06 weikor wrote:
Im no expert, correct me if im wrong
but on earth the equator is the hottest place and the poles the coldest, because of the angle to the sun.
Our planet rotates around the 23° axis, and orbits around the sun. Not every planet does that. (see the moon for example)
A different rotation, however unlikely could then result in a relatively even surface.
Well I'm no expert either so please correct me if I'm wrong 
But I can't see that working. Either the angle is closer to zero and the poles would be cold all year round since there would be no seasons, or the angle would be wider and the seasons would be a lot more extreme.
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