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nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 04:40:43
October 11 2011 04:34 GMT
#1
Have anyone wondered that planets in lore are so... wrong?

I´ll take Bel'Shir as the ultimate exemple. It is a "jungle planet". Its even all covered in green.
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But how can that be that the only enviroment of a planet is a jungle? Shouldnt a planet with so much water have at least icy poles?

And of course, there could be a rational explanation, there can always be. For exemple: Bel'Shir have intense and countinuous vulcanic activity, specially in the poles. That and its unique atmosphere keeps all the planet suitalbe for rain forests, although its not the SAME rainforest everywhere.

Now its "fixed", it makes sense right? But they cant just use the same excuse for all the planets... like all the planets have some reason to have the same climate, soil and biosphere everywhere.


What do you guys think?

EDIT: Bel'Shir is a moon XD Complains still applie.
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
October 11 2011 04:56 GMT
#2
Our ice caps are melting so maybe it is just a tropical planet
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nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
October 11 2011 05:07 GMT
#3
Yeah, but a planet cant be tropical, as it cant be equatorial, thats the point. If its a extra-hot planet, so hot its poles are as hot as Earth´s tropics, how hot will the Equator be?

Of course, I gave that one idea, Bel´Shir could have kinda the same climate everywhere bacause volcans, blablabla. But what of Mar Sara? How is it hot and semi-arid everywhere? I does have seas, that does evaporate. Doesnt the rain falling concentrates anywhere? (for exemple, Earth´s rains are more common in Florida, Amazon, Congo, and not so common in Texas, Mongolia, Europe). The icy-poles problem still applies. If Mar Sara´s poles are warm, its Equator should be inhabitable.
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[UNC]oRe.saMa
Profile Joined December 2009
United States42 Posts
October 11 2011 05:08 GMT
#4
You assume there is only one sun. Perhaps it's a binary (or more!) system.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
October 11 2011 05:10 GMT
#5
Small planets won't have much difference between poles and equator.

Planets may be too close to a star, making them too hot for life, but presumably the races are advanced enough to survive the high heat.

Planets might not have much water on them.

ect ect ect.
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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2141 Posts
October 11 2011 05:25 GMT
#6
Because sci-fi writers are lazy, especially for games where everyone mostly just cares about the gameplay.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SingleBiomePlanet
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CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
October 11 2011 05:50 GMT
#7
On October 11 2011 14:25 -NegativeZero- wrote:
Because sci-fi writers are lazy, especially for games where everyone mostly just cares about the gameplay.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SingleBiomePlanet


Nice, great example. What's another good question is how a planet like Char, all volcanic, could have an atmosphere to support life. One that we can breathe. It would be mostly sulfur oxides and other gnarly shit. Not only that, but there is no other form of life. Not a bush or a blade of grass or a rabbit, wtf do the Zerg live on? Rocks? Canibalism? I won't even get into the paradoxes that creates.
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LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
October 11 2011 05:55 GMT
#8
what annoys me is that they seem to be able to breath fine with their helmet visors up, on Char / any other volcanic planet. with all the volcanic activity going on on Char, i'm sure the atmosphere is filled with poisonous gases.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
October 11 2011 07:02 GMT
#9
On October 11 2011 14:08 [UNC]oRe.saMa wrote:
You assume there is only one sun. Perhaps it's a binary (or more!) system.

If there where 2 suns then in all likely hood the 2 suns and all the planets would be pulled into the same plane by gravity and thus the poles would still be colder so a binary system doesn't really help.

Obviously the planet would still be hotter than a planet heated from just 1 side by an equally powerful sun. But it's poles would still be a lot colder than the equator.
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1612 Posts
October 11 2011 09:45 GMT
#10
Agree with topic. I had the same thoughts. Ice planet, Jungle Planet, Desert Planet, Volcanic Planet... While Earth has all of these tilesets in itself...
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EatCrow
Profile Joined April 2010
Estonia333 Posts
October 11 2011 10:15 GMT
#11
Earth had jungles in the south pole during some time in the dinosaur era.
Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
October 11 2011 11:13 GMT
#12
On October 11 2011 19:15 EatCrow wrote:
Earth had jungles in the south pole during some time in the dinosaur era.

So excited, my first TL post :D

Actually, not in the south pole, but in the antarctic continent, which in that era was at south tropical latitudes.

Only after some MoY it reached south pole due to tectonic movement.

About Bel'shir, come on, Earth was a jungle planet on the Carboniferous period, with high humid, hot climate and lot of humidity around the whole planet due to glass house effect. Only after the growing plant life become consuming the carbon dioxide on the air, could the fish come out of water.

After that, since all landmasses were melted in one giant supercontinent, most of the earth became a desert world, without nearly any ice on poles due to oceanic currents.

Earth climate as we know it today is what it is because of oceanic currents and landmass distribution (also sun cycles and Earth axis cycles). Give earth some more million years and you won't recognice the climate.

Io (Jupiter`s moon) is a volcanic planet.
Europa (another Jupiter moon) is an ice world, like many other ice moons.
Mars is a desert planet
Venus is a volcanic (supposed), hot planet.

Also, zerg live thanks to their buildings metabolizing minerals and vespene into "food" Also creep absorb any kind of soil nutrients and give it to buildings, so they can live wherever they want.
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 12:56:56
October 11 2011 12:55 GMT
#13
nvm
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
October 11 2011 13:07 GMT
#14
On October 11 2011 20:13 Eviscerador wrote:

Mars is a desert planet



Still, you´d freeze in there. And the poles have not the same climate of the equator. Which´s the point.



Another thing, a "desert planet" isnt hard to happen really. Its just no water (so no ice) + debris everywhere (so everything looks the same). Problem is, if its a jungle planet, theres a lot of water. And this water should behave diferently in diferent climates (and ANY planet has more than one climate, even gas giants).


Mar Sara is problem too. It may seem that its ok, but its not; as it isnt a desert planet, its a semi-arid biome, like Palestin, parts of Asia and Mexico. There is wildlife and above all, there is water/humidity. Mar Sare has oceans. Ocenas causes rains - somewhere. And the rain doesnt happen evenly in everyplaces.

That happens to be Pangeas case. We had oceans, maybe no icy poles. but the inner Pangea (deserts) was different from seashore Pangea (marshes).

Not to mention other geographical aspects, like planalts, mountain chains, etc, that affect atmosphere and biosphere.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 11 2011 13:44 GMT
#15
You shouldn't dive too deep into issues like this. If your investigations show that Blizzard has made obvious errors, you might actually hurt their feelings!
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
October 11 2011 14:07 GMT
#16
You are only considering the topological aspects of that planet. However consider the biological aspect. A plant or tree on Bel'shir could have higher tolerance levels of heat and cold. Meaning that everything would be covered in green
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nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
October 11 2011 14:25 GMT
#17
On October 11 2011 23:07 KingPwny wrote:
You are only considering the topological aspects of that planet. However consider the biological aspect. A plant or tree on Bel'shir could have higher tolerance levels of heat and cold. Meaning that everything would be covered in green


That makes sense and sounds way so cool :D
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Koreish
Profile Joined June 2011
United States17 Posts
October 11 2011 14:33 GMT
#18
Deserts are defined by little to no precipitation. You can have an Ice Desert so long as it doesn't snow, rain, hail, etc. A prime example on earth are the poles. Both have Ice since it is so cold but neither receive much precipitation also due to the extreme cold.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 14:44:29
October 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#19
I would ask this question at blizzcon to get their response. Interesting topic I must say, never put much thought into it.

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Old art of Bel'shir
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Eviscerador
Profile Joined October 2011
Spain286 Posts
October 11 2011 15:20 GMT
#20
On October 11 2011 23:07 KingPwny wrote:
You are only considering the topological aspects of that planet. However consider the biological aspect. A plant or tree on Bel'shir could have higher tolerance levels of heat and cold. Meaning that everything would be covered in green

Agree, nobody though about that the jungle could be made of different species depending on the geographic region. But it will be a jungle anyway.

Well played sir.

Also, I think we are being too itchy with the "mono climate" topic. After all, most astronomers say Earth is an ocean world in universal standards, even if we have like 25% of land mass. So a desert planet could have like 75% of desert/arid regions and 25% sea (Mar sara) and still being labeled as "desert planet"

Same with ice planets (Hoth being the most famous one) It is supposed to be a snowball, but only ecuator is "warm" enough to support life. It was hinted than other latitudes are just too cold to live there, so climate is variable.
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