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Variance
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 04:53:49
August 07 2010 04:53 GMT
#41
I was having a ridiculously hard time getting passed the last 5%, but it turns out that Kerrigan is slower than a stimmed marine and you can kite the hell out of her if you have the space. I ran her through the remnants of my base right after a nova for a good 20 seconds while my tanks on the ledge cleaned everything up.

Couldn't help but start laughing when 1 marine has finished the mission for me.
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
August 07 2010 05:45 GMT
#42
I just mass planetary fortresses with 3-4 tanks behind each, then mass produce banshees from 2 starports w/1 armory. 3-4 planetary fortresses each choke. tanks on high ground. I didn't use either Psi Disruptor or w.e. that mind control thing is. Banshees easily kill kerrigan (as long as she doesn't use her Swarm Storm (fungal growth + overpowered storm T.T), u should be fine. Banshees 1 shot almost everything once you get a decent number, including nydus worms. Shift queue them down, you can easily fly over hydralisks (i didnt even get cloak) once you get over 10. leave 3-4 scvs on autorepair behind planetary fortresses, works like a charm.
정명훈 FIGHTING!!! Play both T and P.
Fraud
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada108 Posts
August 07 2010 06:07 GMT
#43
Speaking that the mass tanks along the ridge + mass marines worked. Built 3 PF up near the artifact, no wall-off. Pumped marines from 3 rax with tech reactor, tanks from 3 fact with tech reactor.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-07 08:28:38
August 07 2010 08:24 GMT
#44
just beat this on brutal.
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wall off perimeter with barracks, supply depots. you dont need planetary fortress lol (that cant take advantage of upgrades silly).

3 factories constapump tanks
2 starport constapump banshees (with aoe upgrade).

after second kerrigan attack add another fact and 2 starports.
build only tanks and banshees. in this mission i made scvs, tanks, and banshees.
upgrades (you can be 3-3 on tanks and banshees by the time the artifcat is around 90%) and good walling in with many barrracks will win.

i started upgrades from the second the mission started and immediately built another armory.
tanks in good position plus roving 3-1 banshees make this easy.

you have to be smart about how to pick off the nyduses. sometimes have to split your banshee army (also I used the banshee mercs.. they are good and you can get two sets during this mission).
and kerrigan is soooo easy. just split your banshees up so they dont get AOEed (yes you have to micro) and yamato with the 2 crusiers they give you at the start.
hetpotatis
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden24 Posts
August 07 2010 20:44 GMT
#45
I had a great deal of trouble with this one from the start but then revamped my entire strategy and it worked like a charm.

I had two bunkers at each entry point. These I filled with 1 firebat and rest marines each. Then I just got a shitload of tanks (both behinds bunkers and on top of cliffs to the sides). I had 2-3 scv's at the bunkers at all times do make sure they didn't go down. The tanks (about 15 or so on each side) would obliterate anything that got near while the bunkers soaked up most of the damage.

Then I had a squad of 15-16 banshees just roaming around killing Nydus worms. Don't worry about spore colonies, the problem are the hydras if there are a lot of them with detection. I timed these with Nydus spawns so they would both go offensive to take out Nydus' and help in the base if things spawned there (but mostly the tanks helped with these).

As for Kerrigan... just make sure she doesn't kill too much, least of all your banshees, because if you don't have these you won't be able to kill the Nydus' in time. You can attack her with the banshees, then when she casts her storm thingie, quickly move out so she waste it. Just make sure you save a lot so you can re-load in case you get unlucky and she wipes out an entire side.

I used 0 PF's, 0 Psi-Emitters and only used 1 factory, starport and barracks. Activated the artifact like 2-3 times and my entire base was standing at the end (save for some Nydus' that got through). Just make sure you upgrade your attack! Constantly!
Playing Zerg in 1v1 Diamond.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
August 07 2010 21:35 GMT
#46
I really don't get what all the fuss is about this last mission. Brutal wasn't all together that difficult with the nydus worms so long as you had banshees (and of course dusk wings), 2 facts of siege tanks constantly producing, a few bunkers, and some battlecruisers to yamato kerrigan a bit. I had some difficultly like this on hard with the mind control towers, but on brutal with the psi disruptors it wasn't very difficult. I saved novas so that I could kill all the zergies whenever Kerrigan came to do a bit of damage to her and give my units 1 target rather than 20.
Kk.
Grains
Profile Joined February 2010
2 Posts
August 07 2010 23:47 GMT
#47
Epic fail of blizzard(and I suck ). I have:
- NO 25% more gas = 25% less tanks
- NO tech/react addon(even less tanks)
- NO Banshee upgrades
- NO PF
Against nydus worms on brutal. Tried it all and I´m not even close. Almost never died the whole campaign and now its suddenly a mountain to climb...
Have to be anyone in my situation that got at least 1 tip? Some people seems to think normal is same as brutal...But might just be my lack of upgrades.
Pain is weakness leaving the body
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
August 07 2010 23:56 GMT
#48
last 30% easymode on brutal:

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200/200 siegetanks/siencevessels and then pull back on the highground where the artifact is and sacrifice your base... easygoing... the last 30% i did nothing except using the artifact when kerrigans is coming...
KhaosKreator
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada145 Posts
August 08 2010 00:23 GMT
#49
Am I the only person who just massed Battlecruisers and killed her in 2 seconds with a billion Yamato blasts? I would also send out one Banshee first so she would auto-kill that instead of my cruisers.

Kerrigan on Brutal is a pushover.
Kyrie, Ignis Divine, Eleison
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-08 00:36:08
August 08 2010 00:35 GMT
#50
On August 07 2010 03:09 MangoTango wrote:
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On August 07 2010 03:07 Chairman Ray wrote:
Do not build planetary fortresses. They completely suck vs zerg. Build siege tanks and a lot of them. They all stay at full hp because zerg cant get to them. The best unit vs kerrigan is the marine. Get a group of marines, stim, and go. With ~20 marines, Kerrigan should die in about 2 seconds.


Lol? PFs are awesome in this mission.


Ray is right, I found PF's to be really overrated in this mission. PF wastes your precious gas and its better to use the gas for tanks. When I played with this strategy in mind I easily beat it on the first try in brutal. I made a wall with e-bays with about 6 scvs repairing on each side. It was cake although I did have psi disrupters, I probably didn't need them. Literally nothing could get through because of the massive amount of tanks + very little friendly fire and artifact nova. Kerrigan dies to marines. I had slaughtered everything and was killing kerrigan with 20+ tanks when the artifact became fully charged. It was a really easy win.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Ebonikizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
44 Posts
August 08 2010 01:22 GMT
#51
I walled in with orbital commands since they only require cash to repair and used mass mules to get money & distract kerrigan while she was one her way to my base.

I left the ramps to the artifact open, walled in behind them & put a barracks with a tech-reactor up where it was and pumped marines to run out and kill kerrigan when she came.

Put some science vessels there too, constantly pumped banshees rallied to where the SV's were, when the nydus popped I'd just shift right click them all with my banshees and then shift click back to the artifact for healing.

Milllion scvs at the wall and a bunch of tanks & you're set.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
August 08 2010 02:18 GMT
#52
I massed Spectres to kill Kerrigan cuz Spectres r awesome :o.
Too Busy to Troll!
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
August 08 2010 07:31 GMT
#53
On August 08 2010 09:35 writer22816 wrote:
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On August 07 2010 03:09 MangoTango wrote:
On August 07 2010 03:07 Chairman Ray wrote:
Do not build planetary fortresses. They completely suck vs zerg. Build siege tanks and a lot of them. They all stay at full hp because zerg cant get to them. The best unit vs kerrigan is the marine. Get a group of marines, stim, and go. With ~20 marines, Kerrigan should die in about 2 seconds.


Lol? PFs are awesome in this mission.


Ray is right, I found PF's to be really overrated in this mission. PF wastes your precious gas and its better to use the gas for tanks. When I played with this strategy in mind I easily beat it on the first try in brutal. I made a wall with e-bays with about 6 scvs repairing on each side. It was cake although I did have psi disrupters, I probably didn't need them. Literally nothing could get through because of the massive amount of tanks + very little friendly fire and artifact nova. Kerrigan dies to marines. I had slaughtered everything and was killing kerrigan with 20+ tanks when the artifact became fully charged. It was a really easy win.


There are many ways to skin this puppy, but PFs were essential to my runthrough. They easily absorbed 30k damage each (x4).
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Thermia
Profile Joined August 2010
United States866 Posts
August 08 2010 07:45 GMT
#54
I just used mass tanks, ~8 banshees to snipe worms, and tanked kerrigan with ~5 MC'd ultralisks, didn't lose a tank or anything all game.
Sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling. IGN: Mierin
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
August 08 2010 07:51 GMT
#55
On August 08 2010 08:47 Grains wrote:
Epic fail of blizzard(and I suck ). I have:
- NO 25% more gas = 25% less tanks
- NO tech/react addon(even less tanks)
- NO Banshee upgrades
- NO PF
Against nydus worms on brutal. Tried it all and I´m not even close. Almost never died the whole campaign and now its suddenly a mountain to climb...
Have to be anyone in my situation that got at least 1 tip? Some people seems to think normal is same as brutal...But might just be my lack of upgrades.


You don't need PF or banshee to beat this on brutal. no tech reactor is not that bad because the only gas you lose a the little bit from building extra factories, should probably only amount to ~2 tanks anyway. but why anyone would choose instant-building supply depots over less gas is a mystery to me...

I would just play normally with all the tanks you can get with your gas and spending the rest on marines/medics. you should still be able to make it if you have decent mechanics.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1481 Posts
August 08 2010 09:06 GMT
#56
This mission was very hard to do for me since i had no planraty frotress, no thor stunt, no psi emiters, no banshes longer cloacking. Banshes tend to die quite fast in brutal so even keeping my monewy under 500 minerals 200/200 units could become 96 in under 6 seconds once those masses of ultra/baneling came along after or with kerrigan
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-09 15:49:33
August 09 2010 15:49 GMT
#57
Wall in with orbital commands (3 per side). They give you an econ boost (mules), can spam out scvs to keep themselves repaired, and have massive health - and most importantly, don't take gas to mend.

The rest of your money goes into tanks. Have fun.
Barook
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany143 Posts
August 09 2010 17:02 GMT
#58
I struggled on hard the first time, but it became really easy on Brutal once I decided to use Thors with stun to deal with Kerrigan. 3-4 Thors should be enough to stunlock her. Otherwise, Mass Tanks and Banshees to deal with the worms.
"Blink is pretty good, it helps your Stalkers to die quicker."
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
August 09 2010 17:38 GMT
#59
On August 07 2010 03:14 Jugan wrote:
Look at the liquipedia article for this mission. Keep a set of banshees to kill nydus wurms. If you kill nydus wurms when they spawn, it becomes so INSANELY EASY. I had no PF's, and never had to use my nova blast at all. In fact, I couldn't even get the achievement for 150 zerg killed in one shot because I was owning so hard (i only managed to kill 90 zerg in one shot at 99%). Also, get a couple of thors and a medivac to shuttle them around. If you didn't get the cannon upgrade on the thors, you can stun kerrigan to oblivion while she gets owned by your tanks.

This is correct. Have one or two squads of Banshees hunting down Nydus worm spawns around the map, and then the only thing that's threatening at all in this mission is Kerrigan- Banshees are my preferred unit to deal with her as well (just be careful to dodge her mega-psi storm).
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n3mo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States298 Posts
August 09 2010 17:51 GMT
#60
On August 08 2010 18:06 iloveav wrote:
This mission was very hard to do for me since i had no planraty frotress, no thor stunt, no psi emiters, no banshes longer cloacking. Banshes tend to die quite fast in brutal so even keeping my monewy under 500 minerals 200/200 units could become 96 in under 6 seconds once those masses of ultra/baneling came along after or with kerrigan


you can do them without any of those (as i did), although psi emitters do help. keep your banshees above your tanks so that they only really fire at the occasional unit that makes it to your tanks, and take them over the lava routes to hit nydus worms.

use the artifact to remove the masses that come with kerrigan, so you can focus on just her.
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