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n3mo
United States298 Posts
i had about 6-8 banshees flying around killing worms, but towards the end i couldn't find any openings and left them near the artifact as a final wave of defense (they also killed the worms that spawn out of tank range). try something like this? http://img.skitch.com/20100806-qic9mbyiud9nbd3m6dm5me44h4.jpg more factories too. i had 3 with tech reactors, allowing 6 tanks at once. i hit 200/200 pretty quick that way. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On August 07 2010 03:39 dybydx wrote: FYI, ppl plz stop quoting the campaign guide in sc2 wiki. they were NOT meant for brutal. Liquipedia says it's written for Brutal. The guides for all the missions are written for Brutal difficulty. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Campaign | ||
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Cendre
United States14 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On August 07 2010 03:40 crate wrote: Liquipedia says it's written for Brutal. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Campaign the wiki is not written by 1 person. so despite what it says, there are recommendations there which does not work on brutal. ie, for all in air version, they recommend building bunker with marines instead of PF cause bunker hit air. that is stupid. ur not building PF for the damage, ur building it for the tankiness against broodlords. i HAVE seen it done with bunker on brutal but it was done to make it more challenging. | ||
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JunZ
United States314 Posts
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On August 07 2010 04:00 JunZ wrote: If you picked to get nyduses instead, bunkers are useful. on brutal, they die too fast. the wiki guide also recommend using artifact when levithan comes, which is even more retarded. unlike what the guide says, you dont need many medics, only 2 or 4 is enuf. kerrigan will 1 hit marines no matter what. | ||
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SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On August 07 2010 03:55 dybydx wrote: the wiki is not written by 1 person. so despite what it says, there are recommendations there which does not work on brutal. Then I would suggest you go edit the wiki to fix that, or at least note it. | ||
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Three
Japan278 Posts
~9 tanks on each side split into 3 locations banshee team for nydus worms spam marine button from 2 barracks replenish scvs at walls when needed have 4-5 thors active from the middle on armory attack upgrades with extra money 2 planetary forts near your merc camp when you have extra money if you want when kerrigan comes, throw a wave of sacrificial marines at her, start chain stunning her with the thors. This is the strategy I came up with for brutal and I only used the artifact on the overlords. If you execute it right and have double scv repair speed/both tank upgrades, I don't think you can lose.. | ||
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AlienAlias
United States324 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:02 Cendre wrote: In hindsight I should have picked the flying level because that's where the Mind control tower shines. But here I am. With no Psi emitter and Nydus Worms. I've gotten to 95% charged but by that time Kerrigan has just ravaged my base. My basic strategy is this: retreat back behind the ledge the artifact is on and wall in at the choke at the top and on the left. The reason I do this is it's way easier to cover my base, and defend nydus spawns. Here is a jpg with my setup: http://i34.tinypic.com/dy2irc.jpg I forgot to illustrate a barracks I keep below the wall on the left to allow me entrance in and out. This holds off the swarms pretty well. The problem is dealing with Kerrigan. The only way I know to kill her is mass marine/medic ball, but on her third attach she starts Psi storming which murders them and then ravages my wall and the following swarm finishes me. Anybody have tips for dealing with her? There is also the problem with one Nydus spawn near the tower that my tanks can't reach. Should I just keep air up there to deal with it? I'm also considering throwing some Ravens with PDD into the mix. Is that worth the effort? I used this guy's strategy. Essentially wall off both sides with whatever. And tanks behind them. Banshees roaming to kill spawning nyduses and kerrigan. Your strategy is good, just add banshees killing nyduses and nix the marine/medics. I usually had 16+ banshees to kill her. Weapon upgrades for them ASAP. With banshees it shouldn't be necessary to centralize all your tanks like that since you should kill the nyduses as they spawn. Two control groups of (8) banshees on either side can help you respond faster. Tanks closer to the chokes can help deal with a few possible nyduses that spawn around there. And while the guy says to make 2 factories and 2 starports with tech reactors, I eventually made 5 total starports to replenish my banshees faster since you will inevitably lose some running around to hydras or kerrigan. Also a good idea to save after each nydus wave, so if the next one happens to spawn all of them on the opposite side of the map and your banshees on the other... if it proves too troublesome, you can easily reload and just camp the spawn location. ^.^; | ||
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Cendre
United States14 Posts
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Nuttyguy
United Kingdom1526 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:41 Cofo wrote: Try this strategy: He uses psi emiters, but I'm not sure if they're integral to his success. He also doesn't use any PFs, so that can probably compensate. No nydus killing necessary, just have to get the right tank placement. i used this without PSI emitter you dont really need it, i chose mc and didnt use it once and jsut follow the guide exactly and macro faster than him and you'll be fine and make sure to keep the upgrades pumping sicne they're so effective imo edit and i had no PF only had automated turrets without bunker expansion slots. | ||
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Fumble
156 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:41 Cofo wrote: Try this strategy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CnijiPKBno He uses psi emiters, but I'm not sure if they're integral to his success. He also doesn't use any PFs, so that can probably compensate. No nydus killing necessary, just have to get the right tank placement. I followed this strategy and it worked out really well. I didnt have the psi emiters but they really help with that strategy. I used plantery fortress on both chockes to do a incomplete wall off. I also built 2 PFs at the artifact to kill the pesky nydus that would pop up there. Other than that, it was easy sailing after I got the seige tanks set up. I also called down mules to heal the PFs that were becoming damaged which I thought was an important aspect of it. The first time I did this, i tried to do it like the video showed without any wall in at all. It failed because I didnt have slow. The best part about this strategy is that it requires little attention and all you have to do is mass marines and seige up tanks. So theres no effort to be had. | ||
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mahnini
United States6862 Posts
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Cendre
United States14 Posts
1. Mass tanks out of 3-6 factories 2. Snipe nydus worms with a group of banshees 3. Use PFs to soak damage, narrow chokes, and protect artifact 4. Use stimmed marines to kill kerrigan (pop artifact to clear path), micro around storm if possible (Optional) use thors to stun kerrigan | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
Idk if that can be perfectly done. She killed 1 or 2 tank everytime in practice though. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 07 2010 02:41 Cofo wrote: Try this strategy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CnijiPKBno He uses psi emiters, but I'm not sure if they're integral to his success. He also doesn't use any PFs, so that can probably compensate. No nydus killing necessary, just have to get the right tank placement. I've tried this without the emitters. The lings and ultras make it to melee range and chaos ensues. Notice the ultras slow to a snails pace when they get in range of the emitters. Seems depending on your final zerg research upgrade and if you picked a compatible final mission for it, you can easily cheese it. | ||
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