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ArghUScaredMe
United States712 Posts
The Nydus version is SOOO hard for me. I can't even beat it on HARD. The Nydus worms swarm you SO fast EVEN IF you pre-position vikings to kill it because they're spread in all directions. I've tried it all -> mass bio, mass tanks, walling off the hill with CC/PF (1500hp) and Starports(1250hp). I'm desperate for the explosion cool down every time. I wrestled like 6 hours on it. Seriously, beating the air version on Brutal is like playing on EASY. It's amazing far apart they are from each other. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:04 ArghUScaredMe wrote: If you do the air version, it is SOOO easy on BRUTAL mode. Just mass vikings + BCs with splash + turrets with splash = Absolute GG. I never had to use the explosion once. The Nydus version is SOOO hard for me. I can't even beat it on HARD. The Nydus worms swam you SO fast even if you pre-position vikings to kill it. I've tried it all -> mass bio, mass tech, walling off the hill with CC/PF (1500hp) and Stargates (1250hp). I'm desperate for the explosion cool down every time. I wrestled like 6 hours on it. Seriously, beating the air version on Brutal is like playing on EASY. It's amazing far apart they are from each other. Mass Tanks. Easy win. Did it on my 2nd try on Brutal. I had a little over 20 Tanks + 3 Bunkers at each entrance. Seriously. They absolutely destroy everything. I didn't even go out and snipe Nydus Worms. I just let 'em come. Wracked up 8500 kills too. I even did it on Hard, and I barely even needed to use the Artifact's nova. Probably could've gone without it the entire mission. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
what the hell are you doing because ive spent the last two days trying to beat it | ||
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Tozar
United States245 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:08 Stratos_speAr wrote: Mass Tanks. Easy win. Did it on my 2nd try on Brutal. I had a little over 20 Tanks + 3 Bunkers at each entrance. Seriously. They absolutely destroy everything. I didn't even go out and snipe Nydus Worms. I just let 'em come. Wracked up 8500 kills too. I even did it on Hard, and I barely even needed to use the Artifact's nova. Probably could've gone without it the entire mission. Did you have the reduced friendly fire upgrade? When I tried to use tanks all my stuff would blow up because i never got that upgrade. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:12 Tozar wrote: Did you have the reduced friendly fire upgrade? When I tried to use tanks all my stuff would blow up because i never got that upgrade. Yes, both upgrades on the Tanks. wtf the air version makes me want to hang myself what the hell are you doing because ive spent the last two days trying to beat it I refuse to even try it with air units. As soon as I saw that decision come up I immediately thought, "No air? No BROODLORDS? Only Zerg ground, which is 100% raped by Tanks? Free win!" Seriously. Are the ground waves just absolutely tiny in the air version or what? I feel like it would be impossible. | ||
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ArghUScaredMe
United States712 Posts
Tanks would get rape faced by Kerrigan since her resistance reduces all attacks to 3. Weak rapid fires (infantry) own her and tanks never kill her. Also they bust their own wall-offs, even with 75% friendly-fire reduction. Her AOE also rape tanks since they're sieged and even if not, they're trapped and nowhere to go. In air level, your fliers can just move away since they don't even clip to each other. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:13 ArghUScaredMe wrote: Am I missing something? I already tried mass tanks. Tanks would get rape faced by Kerrigan since her resistance reduces all attacks to 3. Weak rapid fires (infantry) own her and tanks never kill her. Also they bust their own wall-offs, even with 75% friendly-fire reduction. Her AOE also rape tanks since they're sieged and even if not, they're trapped and nowhere to go. In air level, your fliers can just move away since they don't even clip to each other. Um, what? My Tanks completely raped her on both Brutal and Hard. And no, with the 75% reduction they don't bust their own walls. Sit 3 SCV's with fast repair behind the Bunkers and they never go down. Also, Kerrigan will just go for the Bunkers first since they're in front, giving you time to take her down. I think it would also be good for me to note that I had 1-2 Psi Disruptors at each entrance as well. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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ArghUScaredMe
United States712 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:10 SoMuchBetter wrote: wtf the air version makes me want to hang myself what the hell are you doing because ive spent the last two days trying to beat it Air is a WALK in the park. I don't mean it to show off, it really is easy. Unlike Nydus, you can sit on your ass and turtle and you win. Splash RAPES and air units don't clip to each other, providing nasty concentrated fire. 1. Wall off your main base and your hills 2. Get 2-3 tanks on both just to draw enemy fire from buildings 3. Pump Vikings. It is crucial they have splash upgrade for GG 4. Turrets should have both HP & splash upgrade too. 5. Once you have your critical mass of Vikings (only 8-12), pump BCs. 6. Make 3-4 Science Vessels for imba mech healing 7. Spam turrets throughout and cheap marines everywhere. Marines sting a LOT with upgrades. Above is such an abuse and cost-efficient, I had 2000-3000 minerals I couldn't spend and fully upgraded both air and infantry. No need for a single GG explosion either. | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
Tech Reactor pumping out nothing but banshees most of the games, and the rest is pretty simple with Tanks and those fire turrets and Psi Disruptors. | ||
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tyreek
United States141 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:04 ArghUScaredMe wrote: If you do the air version, it is SOOO easy on BRUTAL mode. Just mass vikings + BCs with splash + turrets with splash = Absolute GG. I never had to use the explosion once. The Nydus version is SOOO hard for me. I can't even beat it on HARD. The Nydus worms swarm you SO fast EVEN IF you pre-position vikings to kill it because they're spread in all directions. I've tried it all -> mass bio, mass tanks, walling off the hill with CC/PF (1500hp) and Starports(1250hp). I'm desperate for the explosion cool down every time. I wrestled like 6 hours on it. Seriously, beating the air version on Brutal is like playing on EASY. It's amazing far apart they are from each other. Provide a replay please. The air makes me want to cut my balls off. Or screenshot or something  | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
probably going to try the nydus version on brutal when i do that run.. | ||
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xzidez
Sweden147 Posts
Another tip can be to put 4 svcs on each geyser.. 3 Won't saturate and you will be low on gas. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:50 lim1017 wrote: i found the air version pretty hard on HARD mode.. it took me 3-4 tires to beat it and i barely did probably going to try the nydus version on brutal when i do that run.. Took me about a million times, it was brutal (getit). I did have one major flaw in my preparations though... + Show Spoiler + No viking upgrades | ||
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irhungry
1 Post
On July 30 2010 15:38 tyreek wrote: Provide a replay please. The air makes me want to cut my balls off. Or screenshot or something Used ghosts Used mind control | ||
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khy
United States475 Posts
i played the nydus version and pumped banshees and tanks while rebuilding depots/bunkers at the choke points. 6 banshees can take out a nydus worm in a couple seconds. i only ended up using the artifact just for kicks. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
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wooozy
3813 Posts
Oh, and ~10 Banshees to snipe Nydus Worms just because I wanted something to do instead of watching the Tanks shoot stuff for like 20 minutes. | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
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Cofo
United States1388 Posts
Are you being sarcastic or something? lol. | ||
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Poobah
England91 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:10 SoMuchBetter wrote: wtf the air version makes me want to hang myself This. I failed ~20 times on the air version before re-loading and doing the 'remove air' mission so I could do the Nydus version, which was comparably a cake walk. As others have said: banshees, tanks and marines. Banshees to mop the worms up, tanks to kill everything, stimmed marines to rip Kerrigan apart through her hardened shield thing. | ||
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:04 ArghUScaredMe wrote: If you do the air version, it is SOOO easy on BRUTAL mode. Just mass vikings + BCs with splash + turrets with splash = Absolute GG. I never had to use the explosion once. The Nydus version is SOOO hard for me. I can't even beat it on HARD. The Nydus worms swarm you SO fast EVEN IF you pre-position vikings to kill it because they're spread in all directions. I've tried it all -> mass bio, mass tanks, walling off the hill with CC/PF (1500hp) and Starports(1250hp). I'm desperate for the explosion cool down every time. I wrestled like 6 hours on it. Seriously, beating the air version on Brutal is like playing on EASY. It's amazing far apart they are from each other. are you using banshees to kill the worms as soon as they pop up? You won't be able to kill every worm immediately when it pops, but quickly killing the worms with banshees is the difference between the mission being very easy and almost impossible. | ||
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soverRR
Sweden348 Posts
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
Anyway maybe I will make the campaign again, cause I had to play it offline and then I can make the air version. | ||
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
Did you have the reduced friendly fire upgrade? When I tried to use tanks all my stuff would blow up because i never got that upgrade. If you set up your tanks properly, they won't even get close. I completed this on Brutal and honestly, once I figured this tank thing out you don't even have to use the artifact once, nor do you have to hunt down Nydus canals. Mass your tanks around the low-ground just to the right of the artifact and with 30ish tanks, you're golden. I was lucky enough to have psi-disruptors and perdition turrets, I built those all around the artifact and I'm quite sure I could have afk'd the rest of the mission. I didn't kill one Nydus (except those that spawned in tank range and instantly died) and units just don't make it to the tanks - there's too much firepower. One of my tanks had over 560 kills, it's quite a blood bath. | ||
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Kaboomerang
United States4 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
On July 30 2010 15:13 ArghUScaredMe wrote: Am I missing something? I already tried mass tanks. Tanks would get rape faced by Kerrigan since her resistance reduces all attacks to 3. Weak rapid fires (infantry) own her and tanks never kill her. Also they bust their own wall-offs, even with 75% friendly-fire reduction. Her AOE also rape tanks since they're sieged and even if not, they're trapped and nowhere to go. In air level, your fliers can just move away since they don't even clip to each other. Here's the easiest tactic I've seen and used to beat this mission on Hard without using the artifact: You will want to place the bunkers and the perdition towers at the same spots as shown on that video. | ||
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shizi
United States210 Posts
with nydus you just make a few banshees and run around killing the nydus air has that big boss that comes out and you have to keep watching for broodlords .. much harder | ||
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AcePioneer
8 Posts
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Sanguinarius
United States3427 Posts
When you get bored just kill some nydus worms or a kerrigan. | ||
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Veetz
Canada109 Posts
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TedJustice
Canada1324 Posts
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sparknineone
United States52 Posts
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[oClock]
France4 Posts
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