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[Spoilers] Your thoughts on the campaign?

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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-30 01:11:06
July 27 2010 11:34 GMT
#1
What are your thoughts?

EDIT: Finished campaign, giving my final thoughts:

While the missions themselves in SC2 are much better than the original, I still prefer SC1's campaign.

I think part of what made SC1's campaign great, apart from the better quality of writing, was that it left a lot to the imagination. It was done in such a way that you felt like you were in the middle of something really big and the fact that a lot of stuff happened without your control, or even knowledge (until revealed later e.g. the whole Infested Kerrigan deal), really made you feel like you were the commander/cerebrate/executor. You were just a military commander, a cog in someone's machine, and you had all these important characters asking or telling you what they needed you to do for them. IMO its simplicity made it more immersive than SC2.

With the new game everything is laid out for you. It's harder to relate to Jim, the main character, because all of a sudden he isn't a desperate ally or friend that you grew to love, you actually are him. In SC1, you grew to respect him and he you, and your feelings towards the other characters also evolved and changed. The dynamic of the relationship is now lost. All the other characters in WoL have plotlines that are short, predictable and could have been blurbs on the back of a novel, and there's very little character development - all the characters at the end of the campaign essentially remain who they are from the beginning (excepting perhaps some minor characters such as Warfield, whose sudden flip feels so cliched).

In SC1 you loved Mengsk because he was a freedom fighter, then you hated him because he was a massive asshole. You felt for Kerrigan because she wasn't to blame for who she became, but at the same time you knew she needed to be put down because of her actions. This doesn't really happen in Wings of Liberty - Ariel is pretty, Tosh is badass, and their stuff gets wrapped up in 3 or 4 missions each. Tychus is interesting, but you knew he was up to something from the get go. Swann is a fucking dwarf/gnome engineer lifted straight from WoW, Horner is bland as white bread, Stegman is a million nerds you've met in a thousand movies already.
s0Lstice
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1833 Posts
July 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#2
I'm loving the campaign. Also..the realization that zerg have bones was forced upon me, despite seeing many ultralisk deaths and having it not process.
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antiq
Profile Joined June 2008
Slovakia191 Posts
July 27 2010 11:51 GMT
#3
Well, I felt some of the same, but I guess we were much younger in the days of SC1 campaign grinding.. Age does that to you, makes epic into cheesy in the blink of an eon. I say, embrace the cheese my friend, it's good for your bones.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
July 27 2010 12:03 GMT
#4
I'd say it's more focused on central characters when they story tell rather than on battles in different sectors of the galaxy. SC1 story telling was always a briefing on what's going on in some sector or some planet, SC2 is all character development. It's different, not sure how I feel about it yet.
Mr.Pyro
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Denmark959 Posts
July 27 2010 12:26 GMT
#5
After finishing it up i can safely say my mind was blown.
It's not the same style as Brood War, but that's not necessarily a bad thing
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
July 27 2010 12:33 GMT
#6
i hated the first half, and started to like it right as it ended+ Show Spoiler +
basically just before you went to char, where jimmy and tychus had there little fight
...

I wasn't a fan of the whole chose between these missions and u can skip some aspect... I really think it would've made for a better story if it was just linear, i mean, it ends up in the same place anyway, and half the side-missions were fillers but u never knew which ones were gona progress the story and which ones were gona be fillers because they couldn't release a game with so few levels =\
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Alterran
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden23 Posts
July 27 2010 12:34 GMT
#7
Finished the campain and all missions, kinda feel like nothing happend at all except in the end part.
Im kinda like: did they just run me in a circle, collecting units to build and then gg me?

Zerathuls missions were much more of a singel player campain for me than the terran was, hehe.
Good start on that one, good epic ending mission.

Terran campain, slow slow damage to my patience, just getting units, then final battle just kinda boring. I wanted a lot more story, less grinding the units for my factory.
gorchiza
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Bulgaria200 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-27 20:00:47
July 27 2010 19:59 GMT
#8
The campaign is awesome !! (: I just finished it and I am just happy , what I have seen and What happened is amazing !
I did it very fast though ... but still it was cool and nice
So many good things made in the history blizzard. Don't want to talk right now , cuz maybe I will spoil (:

there was a story the whole time ... about the privious post. The units you get it by the way and didn't bother you that much. Most of the mission were connected to the story directly !
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Marradron
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Netherlands1586 Posts
July 27 2010 22:08 GMT
#9
On July 28 2010 04:59 gorchiza wrote:
The campaign is awesome !! (: I just finished it and I am just happy , what I have seen and What happened is amazing !
I did it very fast though ... but still it was cool and nice
So many good things made in the history blizzard. Don't want to talk right now , cuz maybe I will spoil (:

there was a story the whole time ... about the privious post. The units you get it by the way and didn't bother you that much. Most of the mission were connected to the story directly !


There wasn't mutch too the story. it was just + Show Spoiler +
get the artefacts to return kerrigan to normal. He even ignored the fact that zeratul told him she was the key for liberation of the zerg and saving the entire galixy. She should have not been returned to human. I bet in the end she will willingfull go back to the swarm in an attempt to resque the galixy. Overall i wasn't impressed by the story. The docter and gost sidelines weren't that important to the story and could have made for an more epic mainline.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
July 27 2010 22:21 GMT
#10
I thought the first couple of missions were pretty cool, then in the middle of the campaign it began to feel too much C&C'ish (imo) just to get my mind blown from the same point as ftrunkz. I think it was an incredible ending and I'm so stoked for heart of the swarm already, which I guess kinda sucks T_T

+ Show Spoiler +
I facepalmed HARD during the landing on char when the General said his ship was taking terrible terrible damage
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 27 2010 23:06 GMT
#11
What I don't get is how they successfully invaded Char and did all that shit with only half of Mengsk's fleet, when Kerrigan held off THREE fleets, including Mengsk's at the end of Brood War.. -_-

The writer Blizzard is using in general is sort of bad..
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10888 Posts
July 27 2010 23:33 GMT
#12
Raynor wasn't there at the end of Broodwar .


Well... Let's see how this pans out in Heart of the Swarm... Could be awesome, could be very bad. Was satisfied in the end.

Btw: It's true, the middle part of the campaign is a grind. The beginning is kinda cool, the end is very cool.
dNo_O
Profile Joined November 2008
United States233 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-28 00:12:59
July 27 2010 23:48 GMT
#13
the very ending was... such a let down and... + Show Spoiler +
so all the zerg are dead now except the ones that stayed on the planets they were holding? or... and kerrigan is a human but still has zerg hair? does that mean jimmy's gonna roll on hardwood floors or spikey zerg pubes???
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ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
July 27 2010 23:52 GMT
#14
On July 28 2010 08:48 dNo_O wrote:
the very ending was... such a let down and... so all the zerg are dead now except the ones that stayed on the planets they were holding? or... and kerrigan is a human but still has zerg hair? does that mean jimmy's gonna roll on hardwood floors or spikey zerg pubes???


Spoiler your posts, please

I liked the ending, would like some more info though!!!
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 28 2010 00:21 GMT
#15
On July 28 2010 08:52 ELA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2010 08:48 dNo_O wrote:
the very ending was... such a let down and... so all the zerg are dead now except the ones that stayed on the planets they were holding? or... and kerrigan is a human but still has zerg hair? does that mean jimmy's gonna roll on hardwood floors or spikey zerg pubes???


Spoiler your posts, please

I liked the ending, would like some more info though!!!


now you are spoiling...nice work man
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 28 2010 01:26 GMT
#16
I don't see why anyone should have to spoiler any part of their post, there is a spoiler tag in front of the thread title after all.
Writerptrk
Megaman703
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada688 Posts
July 28 2010 01:38 GMT
#17
I facepalmed hard when I got introduced to + Show Spoiler +
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
July 28 2010 01:39 GMT
#18
i like it so far
Kindred
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada396 Posts
July 28 2010 01:49 GMT
#19
I FUCKING LOVE IT
For lack of a better term.
The upgrades are so cool, I love how you have to choose what to research and you lose other research options in the process. I love the new and old units. There is just so much to do its amazing! I want to read every single note they give. Honestly it justifies its price. Like its massive

Btw is it always between 2 missions or do they add planets later on?
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{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 28 2010 01:53 GMT
#20
just finished it and liked it.
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