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mecra
Profile Joined May 2010
United States83 Posts
August 04 2010 20:14 GMT
#141
What if Mengsk is actually Duran in disguise?

Because he doesn't seem to want to kill Raynor but wants Kerrigan to die. Hence, Tychus was sent to help Raynor in any way possible but was meant to kill Kerrigan when he got the chance. That's why he didn't mind acing Mengsk followers when he was in the Odin.

This also helps with how the Dominion had funded Hybrid research and the know-how to do it. Also, how did the Dominion know about the artifacts in the first place?

Duran telling his "son" about them and feeding info to the Dominion/Mobius? in the hopes that they'll find the stuff and blow the big K away.

Just some quick thoughts.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-04 21:01:59
August 04 2010 20:52 GMT
#142
On August 05 2010 05:14 mecra wrote:
What if Mengsk is actually Duran in disguise?

Because he doesn't seem to want to kill Raynor but wants Kerrigan to die. Hence, Tychus was sent to help Raynor in any way possible but was meant to kill Kerrigan when he got the chance. That's why he didn't mind acing Mengsk followers when he was in the Odin.

This also helps with how the Dominion had funded Hybrid research and the know-how to do it. Also, how did the Dominion know about the artifacts in the first place?

Duran telling his "son" about them and feeding info to the Dominion/Mobius? in the hopes that they'll find the stuff and blow the big K away.

Just some quick thoughts.


So this post is completely mediocre until we hit the bolded part. I vote we must henceforth refer to Kerrigan as 'the big K." Brilliance at its finest.

To answer the above... That sounds awful. Mengsk should be Mengsk forever and ever. But Duran can be anyone else, that is fair. If Duran is somehow Mengsk, I am gonna cut a bitch. That makes no sense and represents everything awful possible in story writing.

What is fair to say is that Mengsk did intentionally give Valerian information. And Valerian, if not actually Mengsk, very likely is in collaboration with Duran or Duran's buddies.


Can I just ask one big big question people seem to not be talking about...

Okay, so the Voice in the Dark on KL-2 (K-2?) is supposed to be the enemy of the Xel'Naga, and it is even known as a destroyed of worlds/gods/cool stuff. Meanwhile, the Xel'Naga have made and protected a huge number of races and their HUGE FREAKING MOTTO is that they do not actively interfere with most species or hurt the lesser species. So much so that they fled when the Overmind attacked instead of just wiping it out with the awesome lasers I am sure they had.

Why does everyone think that the Xel'Naga are going to kill everyone? Blizzard left a TON of wiggle room so it could be that the 'cycle' is being perverted by the Voice thing to destroy the universe instead of being used by the Xel'Naga to save it. Why aren't we discussing whether this Voice thing, which clearly is evil and tried to kill/enslave all kinds of terran and Protoss, is ACTUALLY the bad guy who is gonna wipe shit out? Seriously, Voice in the Dark? The guy's picture the whole Zeratul arc is a voice from the dark? Am I missing something about this?

We have yet to actually see a CONFIRMED Xel-Naga bit. In fact, we have only seen Hybrids that SEEM to be what the cycle MAY OR MAY NOT actually refer to. Duran says he works for "a far greater power, one that blah blah blah long time.

Duran is an evil dude. Why couldn't he be working with the crazy Voice thing to hybridize the Zerg-Protoss before the Xel'Naga come back and manage to fight the Voice off?

Why would the Xel'Naga get killed instead of just killing the Zerg and starting over (like they have done for millenia as is clearly stated in every history) just to come back wayyyyyy later and then wipe them out? Sure they have purity of essence, but they've done this shit before! They live for fucking ever, right?! What time table do they need to be on to sacrifice themselves if they are evil? Just kill the bitches and try again, oh well, who cares, if they just want to dominate everything and such. Maybe the Xel'Naga are trying to use the Zerg and Protoss to prepare to fight off the Voice or something.

I am not convinced that this storyline is quite so obvious.

EDIT: Tassadar can't die, right? What if he and Overmind fused, creating a TRUE Xel'Naga, thus the infinite life bit, but part of the cycle, used to defeat the Voice time and itme again because it inevitably breaks outs, has to come about naturally and not by overt force? Seriously! The cycle is actually that the Voice is a dick and keeps breaking out. The Xel'Naga raise the purity of form and essence to use those races to fight off the Voice and keep him locked up before he wipes everything out! It makes as much sense as having the Xel'naga be continually killing bitches left and right and the KL-2 thing continually killing bitches left and right, but fighting each other of the rights to kill bitches. Purity of essence race can't be converted to the Voice's side because of their single-minded-ness, while Purity of form actually does the killing! The Dark Templar could hurt the goddamn Voice. IT MAKES SENSE.
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z]Benny
Profile Joined April 2006
Romania253 Posts
August 04 2010 22:39 GMT
#143
For everyone that doubts that Tychus is really dead, it actually says so in the SC2 Menu after you finished the campaign. It's written there. Something along the lines of "...and Tychus is now dead."
LingKing
Profile Joined July 2009
United States44 Posts
August 04 2010 23:05 GMT
#144
I agree with the OP about the feeling of being part of something greater in SC1. I definitely missed that in SC2.

Ending was a bit, ehhh cheesy? Seems like Kerrigan would just die with the artifact's emission. The side characters introduced were unimaginative and I thought they would be important, not just side missions.

The format of the campaign was excellent though. I loved being able to choose my missions and choose what upgrades I wanted.
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