EPT2024 - 2025 Football Thread - Page 59
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sharkie
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
So yeah I’ll take that. Arsenal won the FA Cup under Arteta and the criticism was that it was only the FA Cup and they weren’t challenge for the big honours. If Arteta next season said fuck the league and Europe, we need a trophy and 100% focused on the FA and League Cup, even if they won it you wouldn’t be saying it’s a great season would you? | ||
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sharkie
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28620 Posts
On May 23 2025 04:58 sharkie wrote: Spurs are the most successful club in London this season. Thats a fact every person in London would agree with. Crystal Palace also won a trophy and they're higher placed on the league table as well. They broke a longer dry spell, too. | ||
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sharkie
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Harris1st
Germany6854 Posts
On May 23 2025 04:58 sharkie wrote: Spurs are the most successful club in London this season. Thats a fact every person in London would agree with. But everyone outside of London would disagree. Winning EL is nice and all but none of the big Clubs of their respective leagues care too much. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18370 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany6854 Posts
On May 24 2025 05:10 sharkie wrote: Apparently Wirtz (who seemed to have given Bayern his go for a transfer) changed his mind to Liverpool. I have read that Wirtz family wasn't amused by Bayern's arrogance the past few weeks where they acted like Wirtz only has Bayern as a club to go to. Now they might have just lost the most precious gem of German football That'd be awesome! Under normal circumstances I'd have said City would be best suited but Pep does strange things these days so Liverpool seems like an awesome choice. Real is loaded anyway and Bayern is the direct counter to Bayer the last two season and I guess he doesn't wanna have that on his conscience | ||
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Bacillus
Finland1902 Posts
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gTank
Austria2557 Posts
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Elentos
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At least one source I've seen has claimed Wirtz was more convinced by Slot's sporting project than what Bayern presented to him and that's why he decided for Liverpool. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
Awk well, another time! GGWP Napoli and their Scots! Lewis Ferguson lifting the Coppa Italia for Bologna this season as well. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
On May 23 2025 05:23 sharkie wrote: Not if you are #1 in net spend. The one who spends the most should also be the one who wins the most no? We are in the spot of we win the least It depends on your baseline to begin with, and wages are frequently neglected in such discussions and they’re actually a better predictor of outcome than transfer spend anyway. It took Klopp and Liverpool’s recruitment team time to build a side capable of challenging at the top. People forget sometimes that Pep was coming into a setup that had won multiple leagues and cups already. I think you’re unduly harsh on Arteta and the board, they’re there or thereabouts. The platform is there now, I think the question is now can they do it in the near future now that’s built? If not, then sure he may have run out of road. I think they were reasonably well set-up this season, injuries derailed their Prem campaign, but they stepped up a level in Europe at the same time. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
It’s being disingenuous to claim after the fact that people predicted he would be this good, but he wouldn’t be a good squad player? He’s the one you let go? Conte’s playing him as that midfielder who makes late runs into the box and is a nuisance and a goal threat. Exactly how Scotland have in recent times and he’s excelled. Hell he’s filled in at centre back for the latter. Tbf Ten Haag at times did play to his strengths as a player, with decent results | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
Finally someone with real weight says it. Think it’s why most but the most myopic neutrals like Klopp | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8628 Posts
On May 24 2025 07:50 WombaT wrote: Wow I hadn’t realised until just now, Scott McTominey isn’t just beloved in Naples, he was awarded Serie A MVP It’s being disingenuous to claim after the fact that people predicted he would be this good, but he wouldn’t be a good squad player? He’s the one you let go? Conte’s playing him as that midfielder who makes late runs into the box and is a nuisance and a goal threat. Exactly how Scotland have in recent times and he’s excelled. Hell he’s filled in at centre back for the latter. Tbf Ten Haag at times did play to his strengths as a player, with decent results yeah mctominay was a bit of a head scratcher at united. good physicality, good energy, can carry the ball decently and has a good strike. in midfield he can do everything but pass unfortunately, and for some reason united used him as a dm or part of a double pivot for years. only ten hag allowed mctominay to go forward more but ultimately mctominays inclusion in midfield for us as a starter wasnt going to solve our problems. id have kept him though, because he does bring energy and passion which the team sorely lacks | ||
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sharkie
Austria18370 Posts
On May 24 2025 07:28 WombaT wrote: It depends on your baseline to begin with, and wages are frequently neglected in such discussions and they’re actually a better predictor of outcome than transfer spend anyway. It took Klopp and Liverpool’s recruitment team time to build a side capable of challenging at the top. People forget sometimes that Pep was coming into a setup that had won multiple leagues and cups already. I think you’re unduly harsh on Arteta and the board, they’re there or thereabouts. The platform is there now, I think the question is now can they do it in the near future now that’s built? If not, then sure he may have run out of road. I think they were reasonably well set-up this season, injuries derailed their Prem campaign, but they stepped up a level in Europe at the same time. I think Arsenal are very high in wages bill too... Definitely above Liverpool. I get that you guys think he will win something major. I am just so sure that he wont. Also lack of injuries are what gave arsenal last two seasons chances to be top2 and they failed twice to win it. So injuries this season are no excuse | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28620 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland24755 Posts
On May 24 2025 17:02 Liquid`Drone wrote: He has always impressed me for scotland but like efs said, united kept using him as a dm and that just isnt where he shines. He’s the new Fellaini. Not a subtle playmaker type but pretty good at arriving late in the box and as an aerial attacking threat. But pigeonholed as more of a defensive player than he actually is by some I mean I don’t think he’d carry this United side to glory but he’s got some quality, he was super committed, versatile and it’s not like they got big money for selling him either | ||
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