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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51500 Posts
June 27 2022 09:41 GMT
#2981
also frenkie de jong is destined to be the next di maria with how barcelona are forcing him out
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gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2590 Posts
June 27 2022 10:15 GMT
#2982
On June 27 2022 18:16 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2022 04:39 gTank wrote:
On June 27 2022 01:06 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
I feel like Ronaldo would fit Chelsea much better than Man United at the moment.


Everyone seems to not fit Man United at the moment

If you go to United you are held to an impossibly high standard by the fans and the pack of ex players in the media who are used to Ferguson era success, while being at a club run with outdated methods, with owners who don't give a shit so long as their dividends come through. It's a toxic atmosphere, no matter what you do it's not going to be good enough.

Why would anyone want to go there right now? It's not like they are competing for trophies. Dean Henderson is already out the door to Forest on loan and Eriksen is seriously considering staying at Brentford instead of going there.


Yeah it looks really bad, there needs to be a huge shake-up to save the club or bring it back to old glory.
At least no one can take away my memories from back when Man United was a good team.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26096 Posts
June 27 2022 11:09 GMT
#2983
On June 27 2022 18:16 DropBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2022 04:39 gTank wrote:
On June 27 2022 01:06 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
I feel like Ronaldo would fit Chelsea much better than Man United at the moment.


Everyone seems to not fit Man United at the moment

If you go to United you are held to an impossibly high standard by the fans and the pack of ex players in the media who are used to Ferguson era success, while being at a club run with outdated methods, with owners who don't give a shit so long as their dividends come through. It's a toxic atmosphere, no matter what you do it's not going to be good enough.

Why would anyone want to go there right now? It's not like they are competing for trophies. Dean Henderson is already out the door to Forest on loan and Eriksen is seriously considering staying at Brentford instead of going there.

Depends what other offers players have on the table.

I think what you say is 100% true, United are so dysfunctional across the board that they’re neither attractive for top players who want to win things and play in the CL, they’re not particularly attractive for that next tier down, or players on the way up looking to make that first big move to a top league.

That said, most top footballers tend to have a pretty bulletproof faith in their abilities, which may override any sensible evaluation of a move there.

Can think of innumerable players who have baffled me with moves, in a ‘you really thought you could play your way into THAT team as first choice?’ way.

I could still see United snagging talent just based on that, money helps too of course but players will back themselves to succeed and be part of putting United back close to the top of the table.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Kotreb
Profile Joined June 2011
Croatia1392 Posts
June 27 2022 13:51 GMT
#2984
On June 27 2022 18:41 GTR wrote:
also frenkie de jong is destined to be the next di maria with how barcelona are forcing him out

Yeah, I seriously dislike how this is going. They should've stopped after he said he's not interested. Don't want a player here who doesn't want to be here. It's a shitty situation from the start.
If you don't sin Jesus died for nothing.
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 27 2022 14:31 GMT
#2985
A bunch of unverified accounts on Twitter are posting that Raphinha is coming to Arsenal so hopefully we get a confirmation of that soon
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 28 2022 18:18 GMT
#2986
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-06-29 21:47:10
June 29 2022 21:41 GMT
#2987
Meanwhile at the Marketing department of Chelsea FC...

LONDON — Month after stressful month, the problems mounted inside Chelsea F.C.

Almost a dozen employees of the club’s marketing department said they had come to expect being berated by their boss in front of colleagues. Others said they had faced his wrath in more humiliating ways, ordered to stand up and leave staff meetings on a single man’s word.

The pressure took its toll. By last year, multiple Chelsea employees had vanished for weeks, or sometimes months, of medical leave. At least 10 staff members — from a department that employs about 50 people — had left the club altogether, one employee said. Then, in early January, a well-liked former staff member killed himself.

While it is unknown whether workplace pressure was to blame, his death stunned the Chelsea employees who had come to consider him a friend and sounding board. During conversations at a memorial service for him earlier this year, their sense of shock and sadness gave way to anger.

“It should never have happened,” one employee said.

Amid growing internal pressure to address the problems, Chelsea this spring hired a consultancy to conduct what was described as a “cultural review” of the marketing department. But few staff members had confidence in the process: The review of their workplace, they were told, would be overseen by the executive who they felt was to blame for the worst of its problems.

Troubled Times

It is hard to think of a professional sports team whose employees have had to endure the kind of uncertainty that the staff at Chelsea has faced this year.

The club’s world was turned upside down in March, when the team’s longtime owner, the Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich, was sanctioned by the British government just as he announced plans to sell the Premier League club. Until that process was complete, those working for Chelsea — from players and coaches to executives and lower-level staff members — were left to worry about how to do their work; whether they would still be paid for it; and if their jobs would still exist once a new owner was found.

Some of that uncertainty disappeared in May, when a group led by the Los Angeles Dodgers co-owner Todd Boehly paid a record price to acquire Chelsea and the most onerous restrictions placed on the team’s business were lifted. But as all that was playing out in the headlines, a more troubling situation was festering behind the scenes.

The New York Times interviewed almost a dozen current and former Chelsea employees in reporting this article. Speaking independently, all painted a picture of a dysfunctional workplace environment at Chelsea marked by unhappiness, intimidation and fear. But it was the death by suicide in January of Richard Bignell, the former head of Chelsea TV, that brought to light longstanding concerns about the environment inside the team’s marketing department — a group comprising roughly 50 employees — and the behavior of its leader, Gary Twelvetree.

In a statement on Wednesday, two days after The Times contacted the club about the employees’ accusations, Chelsea said its new board had appointed “an external review team to investigate the allegations that have been made under previous ownership.”

“The club’s new board believes strongly in a workplace environment and corporate culture that empowers its employees and ensures they feel safe, included, valued and trusted,” the statement said.

While the club said “initial steps have been taken by the new owners to instill an environment consistent with our values,” it is unclear if any action has been taken by the new board in response to staff members’ allegations against Twelvetree. The club said he was unavailable for comment.

While Bignell’s family chose not to speak with The Times when contacted, almost a dozen current and former Chelsea employees spoke of a toxic workplace culture under Twelvetree that they said left many staff members feeling belittled, bullied and sometimes even fearful of merely attending meetings.

The employees spoke on condition of anonymity because some still work at Chelsea, or in soccer, and feared retaliation or damage to their professional reputations by detailing their experiences publicly. But a coroner’s report compiled after Bignell died in January and reviewed by The Times linked his suicide to “despair following the loss of his job.”

By March, under pressure after Bignell’s death and amid growing frustration among the colleagues and friends he had left behind, Chelsea hired an outside firm to look into the culture inside the department as well as the accusations of bullying made by several employees against Twelvetree. But to the frustration of some employees, the club made no acknowledgment that the review was related to his death or any specific complaint.

One staff member who left the Chelsea marketing department said the experience of working for Twelvetree simply became too much to take; fearing for their mental health, the employee quit the club despite not having lined up other employment. The experience had been so distressing, though, that the former employee detailed it in writing to Chelsea’s chairman, Bruce Buck. Others said they expressed similar concerns in communications with other top executives or in exit interviews with the club’s human resources staff. But little seemed to change beyond a churn of employees that had become so common that it was an open secret among recruiters who sometimes directed candidates toward open positions at Chelsea.

Few employees had confidence in the review of the department once they heard it was to be jointly overseen by Twelvetree, the department head, and the outside consultants Chelsea hired.

“It was not going to address the concerns, was it?” said a person asked to participate in the review. “How could it be if he is reviewing his own culture?”

Staff members said that they have yet to receive any conclusions from the now-completed review, and that there have been no changes to work practices.

“I consider myself to be quite a strong person and previously to working with Chelsea I never felt like I had concerns over my mental health,” said one former member of the marketing department. “But quite quickly after joining, I was not sleeping properly and it got worse and worse.”

That anxiety became visible in Bignell, according to several of his former colleagues. Bignell had been a popular member of the club, heading its television operation, Chelsea TV. The channel had initially been run by the club’s communications department before moving into marketing as part of a new digital strategy implemented by the club’s hierarchy.

The switch meant profound changes for Bignell, who had spent a decade running a television channel and was now required to switch his focus to producing digital content for social media, accounts that were under the direction of the team’s marketing staff. Bignell’s relationship with Twelvetree, staff members recalled, was a fraught one; Bignell, like others, struggled to deal with the marketing head’s management style, which could include biting, shouted critiques of their work that, some employees said, sometimes left colleagues in tears.

A married father of two young daughters, Bignell largely hid the torment he was feeling from his co-workers, employees said. They described him as having a sunny, positive disposition, a colleague always ready to share a joke or lend an ear. But gradually, according to people who knew him, his physical condition had noticeably deteriorated.

“Last time I saw him he was walking around Stamford Bridge and he was a mess,” said a colleague who encountered Bignell in the summer of 2021, around the time he left on medical leave. “He looked ill. He had lost so much weight.”

Bignell returned to Chelsea in September and was abruptly fired the next day. In early January, he took his life. The team, in announcing his death on its website, said the “much-loved” Bignell was “a very popular and hugely respected member of the wider football and sports broadcasting family.” The coroner’s report, meanwhile, later linked his state of mind at the time of his death to his firing by Chelsea. “Richard was deeply troubled by anxiety, depression and despair following the loss of his job,” the report said.

An Ongoing Exodus

Even after Bignell’s death, and after the club’s cultural review, the Chelsea marketing staff has continued to lose employees.

Those who have departed say they have now become used to providing emotional support for the colleagues who have stayed on. After attending one recent party marking the departure of multiple employees, for example, a former Chelsea staff member said she had spoken with so many individuals struggling with life at work that she had felt the event had doubled as a therapy session.

Chelsea’s new ownership group, meanwhile, said Wednesday that it has reached out to Bignell’s relatives through the family’s lawyer. “Our heart goes out to Richard’s entire family,” the team’s statement said. “His passing has been deeply felt by his colleagues at the club and across the football community.”

Senior Chelsea officials already had been speaking with the family, which had raised concerns about the circumstances of his death, and staff members said that they have continued to press internally for changes. But the sale of the club in May has only brought fresh uncertainty.

As the new owners take control of the team, the most powerful leaders from Chelsea’s old regime are being replaced. The chief executive Guy Laurence, who runs the club’s day-to-day operations, and Buck, the outgoing chairman, were the most senior leaders whom staff members contacted with their concerns about working conditions.

Now both are among those who will leave.


Source
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
July 01 2022 08:11 GMT
#2988
The world cup will use a semi auto offside detection system.
https://www.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/news/semi-automated-offside-tech-aids-referees-and-fans-at-fifa-club-world-cup-tm

So basically cameras+chipped ball automatically check for offsides, refs gets notice, ref can investigate by himself.

Somehow amusingly this is the first news that somehow makes me interested in the WC this year... Qatar is really good at killing all my motivation for it.
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1985 Posts
July 01 2022 08:41 GMT
#2989
On July 01 2022 17:11 mahrgell wrote:
The world cup will use a semi auto offside detection system.
https://www.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/news/semi-automated-offside-tech-aids-referees-and-fans-at-fifa-club-world-cup-tm

So basically cameras+chipped ball automatically check for offsides, refs gets notice, ref can investigate by himself.

Somehow amusingly this is the first news that somehow makes me interested in the WC this year... Qatar is really good at killing all my motivation for it.

I guess if you want to put a bit of anti-Qatar twist to it, you can look at is as one of those FIFA beta tests like they've done with horrible tournament balls and all that. Chances are there's going to be some mess-ups, weird calls and delays because of it. Some nicer tournament is then going to get the proper system once the test phase is over.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
July 01 2022 08:43 GMT
#2990
But its also the best place to test such a system because it will get worldwide recognition for improvements and competition
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1985 Posts
July 01 2022 09:33 GMT
#2991
Yeah, maybe so.

For once I hope it's one of those things that nobody appreciates when it's working and everybody hates when it fails. A lot of the refereeing stuff goes under that umbrella.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4378 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-07-01 17:13:38
July 01 2022 17:11 GMT
#2992
Mo Salah has signed a new contract at Liverpool.
Liverpool FC are delighted to announce Mohamed Salah has signed a new long-term contract with the club.

The forward, who was named the FWA Footballer of the Year and the PFA Players’ Player of the Year for 2021-22 after helping Jürgen Klopp’s side to a domestic cup double, has committed his future to the Reds by putting pen to paper on the deal on Friday.

After five years with the club, Salah will now extend a stay at Anfield that has so far yielded a remarkable 156 goals in 254 appearances.

The No.11 told Liverpoolfc.com: “I feel great and [I am] excited to win trophies with the club. It’s a happy day for everyone.

“It takes a little bit of time, I think, to renew, but now everything is done so we just need to focus on what’s next.

“I think you can see in the last five or six years the team was always going [upwards]. Last season we were close to winning four, but unfortunately in the last week of the season we lost two trophies.

“I think we are in a good position to fight for everything. We have new signings as well. We just need to keep working hard, have a good vision, be positive and go for everything again.”

Liverpool website official statement

The official release does not specify contract length or wages, but the Guardian is saying that the contract is 350k pound a week, plus performance bonuses. Also that the contract is until the end of 24/25.

Guardian release
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1985 Posts
July 01 2022 19:15 GMT
#2993
Kind of happy that it got settled finally. Both Klopp & Liverpool have had more than enough transfer scares already. It's nice to see them retaining a world class player through their peak years once.

{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 02 2022 03:05 GMT
#2994
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 02 2022 17:40 GMT
#2995
Well this isn't good.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26096 Posts
July 02 2022 17:52 GMT
#2996
Blessing in disguise for United potentially.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18525 Posts
July 02 2022 18:03 GMT
#2997
No, losing Ronaldo will only hurt United
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55559 Posts
July 02 2022 18:16 GMT
#2998
One of the most speculated topics atm is Lewandowksi to Barca and Ronaldo to Bayern. Although Salihamidzic already said Bayern aren't interested in Cristiano, the rumor isn't cooling down.
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
July 02 2022 19:58 GMT
#2999
I wish he goes. Singing him was yet another attempt to cling to something that isn't there for ManU atm. Free up the budget, free up the game time for people with futures at the club instead of someone with a glorious past.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 02 2022 20:04 GMT
#3000
Barcelona are getting Kounde now as well as re signing Dembele, buying Raphina, free signings as well of Christensen, Kessie and Sergi Roberto. Want Lewandowski as well and are legit flat broke and trying to get basically "payday loans" lol what on earth. The club will die in 1-2 years?
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