After a thought I must say I was missing an idea - a playmaker and somebody with them balls. Every German action was slow and fearful. The wing players need to check what Jordi Alba was doing. All the line players were slow, walking, without the courage to go pass the player. So many passes back!
To me it seems that Germany is lacking a playmaker and their strategy was to let France play, defend and then go into fast counter attacks. Oh the irony of the game
Anyway, my prediction was close, sure, 3:2 for Germany if 4 goals far away, but the only goal was scored byGermany
Jesus that’s the worst one of those I’ve ever seen, poor bloke. To miss the initial touch happens from time to time, to miss 2 further attempts to clear it is something I’ve genuinely never seen!
For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid. France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though). Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.
On June 16 2021 16:34 gTank wrote: For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid. France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though). Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.
Why do you say that? Hummels handled Mbappe? The one time Mbappe got really dangerous was when Hummels tackle saved it
On June 16 2021 08:28 sharkie wrote: Am i the only one who actually thought hummels played a good game? He was often the last man behind and mbappe never scored
With the aggressive shape germany was playing thats an achievement imo And offside traps count towards good defending
Agreed
On June 16 2021 11:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: My god...
Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )
On June 16 2021 16:34 gTank wrote: For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid. France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though). Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.
Germany was behind and the last line defence was incredible high to up the pressure so ofc there is space for an attacker and the risk to run into counterattacks. Hummels played incredible well besides the one lapse.
The only one who played outright bad was Havertz, maybe nerves, dunno. No speed, afraid, kinda slacking. Not the same guy that scored in a CL final for sure
Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )
It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.
Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )
It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.
Happens every now and then, maybe it wasn't De Gea but I would bet it was in the last decade in the PL Here's one from the BundesLiga
People talk about Mbappe vs a 32 year old Hummels. If Ruben Dias gets another yellow vs Germany, we're facing Mbappe with a 39 year old Pepe and a 37 year old Fonte. That will be fun.
Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )
It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.
OK, it was, but it happened in 2003 or something, not mid 90s
Why do you say that? Hummels handled Mbappe? The one time Mbappe got really dangerous was when Hummels tackle saved it.
That one was arguably a penalty tho, even if it wasn't called. He's on the ball but he's on Mbappe first. (One of those situations where if the referee called a penalty, VAR would not undo it.)
I mean, I think Hummels was fine. The own goal was unfortunate more than it was 'bad' - it's a fairly difficult ball to clear and letting it go isn't an option. Mbappe outran him something crazy - but 'is slower than Mbappe' isn't really that much of a criticism.
But what misses totally my mind was that pass when the German #20(I believe) rather destroyed the defending French than going head first. Cannot remember the minute, but it was a bad tackle instead of a chance for a goal. That was quite illustrative of the match.
I find it funny that the german players talk about having bad luck when 2 goals were (rightfully) close offside calls and a tackle as last player Hummels did hit Mbappe first. Would be a red card if the ref decides its a foul.
On June 16 2021 20:14 gTank wrote: I find it funny that the german players talk about having bad luck when 2 goals were (rightfully) close offside calls and a tackle as last player Hummels did hit Mbappe first. Would be a red card if the ref decides its a foul.
The ref didn't have his best day and the tackle looked clear. It required careful slowmo to see it wasn't. So leaving the penalty be was IMO the better decision.