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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 15 2021 21:44 GMT
#3181
After a thought I must say I was missing an idea - a playmaker and somebody with them balls. Every German action was slow and fearful. The wing players need to check what Jordi Alba was doing. All the line players were slow, walking, without the courage to go pass the player. So many passes back!

To me it seems that Germany is lacking a playmaker and their strategy was to let France play, defend and then go into fast counter attacks. Oh the irony of the game

Anyway, my prediction was close, sure, 3:2 for Germany if 4 goals far away, but the only goal was scored byGermany
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18484 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-15 23:29:20
June 15 2021 23:28 GMT
#3182
Am i the only one who actually thought hummels played a good game? He was often the last man behind and mbappe never scored

With the aggressive shape germany was playing thats an achievement imo
And offside traps count towards good defending
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
June 15 2021 23:48 GMT
#3183
Feels like Germany are crying out for an Ozil-style playmaker
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
June 16 2021 02:44 GMT
#3184
My god...

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 16 2021 04:12 GMT
#3185
On June 16 2021 11:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My god...

https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1404992170088620037

God damn, that's gotta be one of the most devastating things to go through
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
June 16 2021 06:15 GMT
#3186
Jesus that’s the worst one of those I’ve ever seen, poor bloke. To miss the initial touch happens from time to time, to miss 2 further attempts to clear it is something I’ve genuinely never seen!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
June 16 2021 07:34 GMT
#3187
For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid.
France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though).
Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18484 Posts
June 16 2021 07:56 GMT
#3188
On June 16 2021 16:34 gTank wrote:
For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid.
France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though).
Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.


Why do you say that? Hummels handled Mbappe? The one time Mbappe got really dangerous was when Hummels tackle saved it
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2021 08:11 GMT
#3189
On June 16 2021 08:28 sharkie wrote:
Am i the only one who actually thought hummels played a good game? He was often the last man behind and mbappe never scored

With the aggressive shape germany was playing thats an achievement imo
And offside traps count towards good defending

Agreed

On June 16 2021 11:44 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
My god...

https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1404992170088620037

Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6977 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 08:27:52
June 16 2021 08:23 GMT
#3190
On June 16 2021 16:34 gTank wrote:
For me, germany had no real answer to force good chances or goals but played solid.
France seemed to do the minimum and won (2 offside goals were played nicely though).
Also it was not a good Idea to let Mbappe play against Hummels. Hummels is not fast enough for this.


Germany was behind and the last line defence was incredible high to up the pressure so ofc there is space for an attacker and the risk to run into counterattacks. Hummels played incredible well besides the one lapse.

The only one who played outright bad was Havertz, maybe nerves, dunno. No speed, afraid, kinda slacking. Not the same guy that scored in a CL final for sure
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1974 Posts
June 16 2021 08:37 GMT
#3191
On June 16 2021 17:11 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2021 08:28 sharkie wrote:
https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1404992170088620037

Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )

It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2021 08:41 GMT
#3192
On June 16 2021 17:37 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2021 17:11 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 16 2021 08:28 sharkie wrote:
https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1404992170088620037

Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )

It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.

Happens every now and then, maybe it wasn't De Gea but I would bet it was in the last decade in the PL
Here's one from the BundesLiga

I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
June 16 2021 08:44 GMT
#3193
Nothing against legendary Tomislav Piplica:
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
June 16 2021 08:45 GMT
#3194
People talk about Mbappe vs a 32 year old Hummels. If Ruben Dias gets another yellow vs Germany, we're facing Mbappe with a 39 year old Pepe and a 37 year old Fonte. That will be fun.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2021 09:13 GMT
#3195
On June 16 2021 17:37 Bacillus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2021 17:11 deacon.frost wrote:
On June 16 2021 08:28 sharkie wrote:
https://twitter.com/TaylorTwellman/status/1404992170088620037

Aw yeah, we have a saying describing that but hard to translate I still remember a similar goal in PL, I believe it was De Gea It was a throw in, he missed the ball but touched it, so the goal actually counted(otherwise it wouldn't :D )

It's actually an older mistake by a Finnish keeper called Peter Enckelman. There's some mid 90s 240p quality clips floating around on youtube.

OK, it was, but it happened in 2003 or something, not mid 90s
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28701 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-16 09:16:22
June 16 2021 09:15 GMT
#3196

Why do you say that? Hummels handled Mbappe? The one time Mbappe got really dangerous was when Hummels tackle saved it.


That one was arguably a penalty tho, even if it wasn't called. He's on the ball but he's on Mbappe first. (One of those situations where if the referee called a penalty, VAR would not undo it.)

I mean, I think Hummels was fine. The own goal was unfortunate more than it was 'bad' - it's a fairly difficult ball to clear and letting it go isn't an option. Mbappe outran him something crazy - but 'is slower than Mbappe' isn't really that much of a criticism.
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Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1974 Posts
June 16 2021 10:10 GMT
#3197
I think the Finnish studio was more critical of Rudiger's gung ho defending than Hummel's clearance on that French goal.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2021 10:20 GMT
#3198
But what misses totally my mind was that pass when the German #20(I believe) rather destroyed the defending French than going head first. Cannot remember the minute, but it was a bad tackle instead of a chance for a goal. That was quite illustrative of the match.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2584 Posts
June 16 2021 11:14 GMT
#3199
I find it funny that the german players talk about having bad luck when 2 goals were (rightfully) close offside calls and a tackle as last player Hummels did hit Mbappe first. Would be a red card if the ref decides its a foul.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
June 16 2021 11:24 GMT
#3200
On June 16 2021 20:14 gTank wrote:
I find it funny that the german players talk about having bad luck when 2 goals were (rightfully) close offside calls and a tackle as last player Hummels did hit Mbappe first. Would be a red card if the ref decides its a foul.

The ref didn't have his best day and the tackle looked clear. It required careful slowmo to see it wasn't. So leaving the penalty be was IMO the better decision.
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
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