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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 13 2020 12:28 GMT
#981
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 13 2020 16:31 GMT
#982
On October 13 2020 08:26 zev318 wrote:
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On October 13 2020 07:09 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Given the current NBA ruleset you can have a maximum of 1 player on the floor who can't hit from deep. Embiid and Simmons can't hit 3s. Philly can't play big minutes with both Simmons and Embiid on the floor and expect any level of success in the playoffs.


i think 32% for embiid is not "can't hit 3s", AD also is a 32% shooter, the problem is that embiid doesnt want to play that way.


I think 32% is low enough that he is the guy defenses will leave open (unless Simmons is on the court as well). Good shooters are in the high 30s and great ones are in the 40s. 33% from 3 is the equivalent of 50% from 2 and good big men should be above that.

AD's love for midrange for long range is the weakness in his game. He's not efficient enough to be shooting those as often as he does. Maybe if he is really wide open but otherwise, no. Only reason for him to camp out behind the 3 point line is to provide a driving lane for Lebron
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
October 13 2020 20:53 GMT
#983
He is shooting under 29% from 3 and under 44% overall in the playoffs. So we have a "centre" shooting with Andrew Wiggins level of efficiency. ouch.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-14 01:24:17
October 14 2020 01:23 GMT
#984
On October 13 2020 21:28 JimmiC wrote:
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On October 12 2020 10:15 zev318 wrote:
On October 12 2020 09:12 JimmiC wrote:
On October 12 2020 07:06 Jerubaal wrote:
On October 12 2020 02:33 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
there is always a few idiots out there...

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30091882/los-angles-lakers-danny-green-fiancee-received-death-threats-missed-shot-game-5-nba-finals

Green was very popular in Toronto. A very well earned popularity IMO. I think stuff like this will only make him more popular amongst normal people.


In their defense, they have been locked in their homes for 6 months while homeless junkies and anarchists have taken over their state.

Naa there out west, the Trumps rarely leave the east.

Going to be interesting in the off-season to see which people the lakers bring back anf what new ring chasers appear. I could marc Gasol and many others heading there.


personally i dont think gasol fits what the lakers want to do on defense, too slow. i think they'll mostly bring back the same group, but imagine if they can get someone like a joe harris that would be an awesome pickup, but i think no way the nets dont sign him back

I dont think they have the cap space for anyone other than ring chasing veterans. Some one like Harris would be great but I don't think they have the cash.


they have AD's bird rights i believe. so technically they could do whatever they want and still sign AD to a max, but the most likely scenario is that they save all the cap space for giannis and a much better FA class the year after.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-15 00:48:46
October 15 2020 00:27 GMT
#985
Savage Nick Nurse...

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I give the same sales pitch to employees working for my best customers. Specifically, the employees who are lifeless, listless and plodding through the day with no sense of urgency or purpose. Its up to them to increase their own fair market value. Sooner or later they're going to be working somewhere else and they have to provide value to whomever their new employers are. "No Skill" employees who derive their value via fantastic corporate politics have no value outside their current org. Sooner or later they will have to produce something real and the politicking won't save them.

Fred VanVleet sums it up with a simple slogan : " Bet On Yourself "

Freddy ranked above Demar on the free agent market? LOL.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/2020-nba-free-agency-ranking-top-30-players-potentially-market
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
October 17 2020 14:47 GMT
#986
On October 15 2020 09:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Freddy ranked above Demar on the free agent market? LOL.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/2020-nba-free-agency-ranking-top-30-players-potentially-market

As much as I appreciate what DeRozan has done for the Raps, steady Freddy really deserves that rank.. he’s worked hard, took a lot criticisms (and took them the right way), and is about to get the big $$$$

In the nba, we get these lucky spurts where a player seems to elevate his game overnight.. and 99% of the time, it’s a fluke.. but Fred still balling since the Milwaukee series and if anything has gotten even better.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 17 2020 16:10 GMT
#987
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 01:58:59
October 18 2020 01:11 GMT
#988
On October 17 2020 23:47 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
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On October 15 2020 09:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Freddy ranked above Demar on the free agent market? LOL.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/2020-nba-free-agency-ranking-top-30-players-potentially-market

As much as I appreciate what DeRozan has done for the Raps, steady Freddy really deserves that rank.. he’s worked hard, took a lot criticisms (and took them the right way), and is about to get the big $$$$

In the nba, we get these lucky spurts where a player seems to elevate his game overnight.. and 99% of the time, it’s a fluke.. but Fred still balling since the Milwaukee series and if anything has gotten even better.

do people view his game as elevating overnight? in my eyes FVV has improved steadily since day 1. Hence the name Jack Armstrong gave him ... "steady freddy".

i guess to people who do not watch him play much his game improved "overnight".

here is Freddy 3 years ago.


On October 17 2020 23:47 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
took a lot criticisms (and took them the right way), and is about to get the big $$$$

Took a lot of criticism? from whom? people who barely watch the team perhaps? FVV was a zero risk, undrafted minimum salary 2 way contract guy who put on his hard hat and worked his ass off from day one.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-18 04:40:32
October 18 2020 04:37 GMT
#989
On October 18 2020 10:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2020 23:47 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
On October 15 2020 09:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Freddy ranked above Demar on the free agent market? LOL.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/2020-nba-free-agency-ranking-top-30-players-potentially-market

As much as I appreciate what DeRozan has done for the Raps, steady Freddy really deserves that rank.. he’s worked hard, took a lot criticisms (and took them the right way), and is about to get the big $$$$

In the nba, we get these lucky spurts where a player seems to elevate his game overnight.. and 99% of the time, it’s a fluke.. but Fred still balling since the Milwaukee series and if anything has gotten even better.

do people view his game as elevating overnight? in my eyes FVV has improved steadily since day 1. Hence the name Jack Armstrong gave him ... "steady freddy".

i guess to people who do not watch him play much his game improved "overnight".

here is Freddy 3 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz0Juatu4kk

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On October 17 2020 23:47 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
took a lot criticisms (and took them the right way), and is about to get the big $$$$

Took a lot of criticism? from whom? people who barely watch the team perhaps? FVV was a zero risk, undrafted minimum salary 2 way contract guy who put on his hard hat and worked his ass off from day one.

Criticism was too nice a word. More like bashing. Did you hear his parade speech? There was a bit of something there. He knew fans were calling him all sorts of useless.

Let’s agree to disagree on how he played before the milwaukee series. I’m sure his free agent value is no where near where it is right now if we are to judge him before that series. At most I might concede that all the small improvements reached a tipping point such that there was a marked improvement in his overall game.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-20 20:52:55
October 20 2020 20:49 GMT
#990
Freddie went from being #4 on the point guard depth chart of a top ten team to getting 28 minutes a game on a championship contender in the space of two years. On the "free agent value" front he went from an NBA minimum 2-way deal to $9 million a year in the space of two years. FVV improved a lot before the 2019 Milwaukee series.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
October 21 2020 02:43 GMT
#991
when does FA start
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
October 21 2020 04:35 GMT
#992
On October 21 2020 05:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Freddie went from being #4 on the point guard depth chart of a top ten team to getting 28 minutes a game on a championship contender in the space of two years. On the "free agent value" front he went from an NBA minimum 2-way deal to $9 million a year in the space of two years. FVV improved a lot before the 2019 Milwaukee series.

And he improved yet again after that. By a lot.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
tillet
Profile Joined October 2020
1 Post
October 21 2020 14:50 GMT
#993
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Carvic
Profile Joined October 2020
1 Post
October 21 2020 19:03 GMT
#994
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-25 14:59:30
October 24 2020 21:50 GMT
#995
On October 21 2020 11:43 zev318 wrote:
when does FA start

i think everything is still up in the air....
https://apnews.com/article/nba-nba-finals-basketball-basketball-6a627d15d84a5593ea3bdb65893d65e2

EDIT: i'd love to see the Raptors playing in Buffalo next year.
On October 21 2020 13:35 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2020 05:49 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Freddie went from being #4 on the point guard depth chart of a top ten team to getting 28 minutes a game on a championship contender in the space of two years. On the "free agent value" front he went from an NBA minimum 2-way deal to $9 million a year in the space of two years. FVV improved a lot before the 2019 Milwaukee series.

And he improved yet again after that. By a lot.

i'd say he improved more from Day 1 to the middle of the 2019 playoffs than since that point. Having a hot hand with catch-and-shoot 3s for a few games is nice to see, however, it is merely one aspect of a point guard's game. This season solidified FVV's status as an NBA-er... it didn't display the giant leaps of improvement that occurred in 2016, 2017 and 2018.

I wonder if Freddy will give the Raptors a hometown discount?

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Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
October 26 2020 00:42 GMT
#996
On October 25 2020 06:50 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +

And he improved yet again after that. By a lot.

i'd say he improved more from Day 1 to the middle of the 2019 playoffs than since that point. Having a hot hand with catch-and-shoot 3s for a few games is nice to see, however, it is merely one aspect of a point guard's game. This season solidified FVV's status as an NBA-er... it didn't display the giant leaps of improvement that occurred in 2016, 2017 and 2018.

Fair enough. I only really started paying attention to him in 2017-2018 season. From then until before MIL series, on a 10pt scale, he would fluctuate from a 4 to a 6. And noticeably closer to a 4 (if not worse) during playoffs. From game 4(?) of MIL series onwards, he somehow became an 8.
That’s pretty impressive.
Imo, improvements get progressively harder the more skilled a player becomes (ie FVV going to a 10 from here is pretty much impossible).
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
KelianQatar
Profile Joined December 2012
303 Posts
October 26 2020 14:22 GMT
#997
It is hard to measure FVV's 2018 Playoff performance since he was playing with a shoulder injury.

JJR is FVV your 21st Century Francisco d'Anconia? FVV sure loves $$$
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-26 18:54:32
October 26 2020 18:34 GMT
#998
Speaking of $$$....

Spencer Dinwiddie has been a favourite of mine since he arrived in the NBA. It'll be interesting to see if this superficial analysis creates some traction. I'd like to see some agents and their teams of legal and financial wizards dig much deeper into Dinwiddie's "back of the envelope ball park calculations".


How ironic would it be... "Black Lives Matter" plastered absolutely everywhere.. the players were getting a raw deal from the owners. If Dinwiddie's brief look has some degree of truth in it ....then this kind of reminds me of the NFL making a big giant deal about "Breast Cancer Awareness". THe 30 billionaire NFL owners plastered everything in pink and donated almost nothing to the cause.

On October 26 2020 23:22 KelianQatar wrote:
It is hard to measure FVV's 2018 Playoff performance since he was playing with a shoulder injury.

good point. FVV was injured during what was supposed to be his toughest test at the time.
On October 26 2020 09:42 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Imo, improvements get progressively harder the more skilled a player becomes (ie FVV going to a 10 from here is pretty much impossible).

ya, that's a good insight.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17411 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-28 22:01:13
October 28 2020 14:57 GMT
#999
Trouble in Raptor-Land.

https://www.pix11.com/news/local-news/manhattan/toronto-raptors-nba-player-terence-davis-arrested-in-nyc-for-assaulting-girlfriend-police

if Davis can prove provocation he might wiggle out of this. if not, he won't be on the Raptors any longer.

EDIT....

7 charges... ouch.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
October 29 2020 19:27 GMT
#1000
raptors can bring back jeremy lin xd

this along with his covid shit lost him some fans in raptor land
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