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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 02 2020 16:50 GMT
#2721
So city escape a red card. If that foul had come from a mourinho team it would have been red 100%


Can we introduce AI refs please
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
February 02 2020 17:13 GMT
#2722
VAR is awesome
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-02 17:17:14
February 02 2020 17:15 GMT
#2723
so 0/3 ref decisions and 1/3 VAR decisions? Dean + Friend masterclass i guess

edit: oh and Lloris was blatantly off the line too, make it 0/4 & 1/4
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 02 2020 17:22 GMT
#2724
On February 03 2020 02:13 LennX wrote:
VAR is awesome


ffs its not VAR's fault?
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4554 Posts
February 02 2020 17:27 GMT
#2725
On February 03 2020 02:22 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2020 02:13 LennX wrote:
VAR is awesome


ffs its not VAR's fault?


It is not nor the referees.

It is the dumb implementation and incompetent idiots hiding behind the referees after making the rules being at fault. To me, the football authorities seem to want VAR to fail.

I'm washing off this season VAR. Maybe it will get better next assuming it survives
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-02 18:26:19
February 02 2020 17:29 GMT
#2726
On February 03 2020 02:27 LennX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2020 02:22 sharkie wrote:
On February 03 2020 02:13 LennX wrote:
VAR is awesome


ffs its not VAR's fault?


It is not nor the referees.

It is the dumb implementation and incompetent idiots hiding behind the referees after making the rules being at fault. To me, the football authorities seem to want VAR to fail.

I'm washing off this season VAR. Maybe it will get better next assuming it survives


VAR fail in the Premier league is 100% referee's fault. The country with the most exciting players, most exciting league and the most money has the worst referees by far.
In Germany its not failing.

------

Mourinho team 8 fouls - Pep team 14 fouls
How much they have changed
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
February 02 2020 19:04 GMT
#2727
Spurs actually played quite well. Could have gone either way even without the red. Liverpool now need 18 points which means they will be champions by march 21st if they win their next 6 games (and city win all of theirs).
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 02 2020 19:12 GMT
#2728
Liverpool's next three PL games are against the relegation zone
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3980 Posts
February 02 2020 20:59 GMT
#2729
On February 03 2020 04:12 sharkie wrote:
Liverpool's next three PL games are against the relegation zone

And after those 3 they need 9 points from 10 matches...
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4231 Posts
February 03 2020 07:54 GMT
#2730
On February 03 2020 01:04 sneirac wrote:
well if we talk about shape/form lets talk Arsenal

Since mid October in the PL:
2 wins
10 draws
5 losses

Their good start is the reason they aren't ass deep in a relegation struggle, that's quite impressive and quite entertaining


Has the team showed any sign of improvement under arteta?
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 03 2020 07:57 GMT
#2731
We are better defensively now. Offense is still a problem
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
February 03 2020 14:19 GMT
#2732
I'm missing so much action. The Internet is almost unusable here (cheap hotel in Langkawi). But the beach is nice so there's that. I'll catch up with events next time I get usable internet. Didn't expect Spurs to beat City.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2714 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-04 22:02:37
February 04 2020 22:02 GMT
#2733
Messi on Instagram:

"Honestly I don't like making such things, but I think everyone should be responsible of his own tasks and decisions. The players know what happens inside the pitch, and we're also the first to admit whenever we do wrong."

"The ones responsible for the sporting area must assume their responsibilities and take charge of the decisions they make. At last I think that when it is spoken about the players, names should be given, because if not it is contaminating everyone and spreading lies".

The title of the article was: 'Abidal: "After the Clásico, we started to determine the departure of Valverde"'

And what's highlighted in red: 'The responsible of the sporting area explains that "many players were not satisfied nor worked much".


Messi complaining so directly about the board is something unexpected.

By the way, if you didn't know, it was announced today that Dembelé is injured for the rest of the season. So all the money from Neymar was completely wasted in him and Coutinho. Ah, and they didn't bring a forward sub this season and they sold Carlos Perez in winter to Roma, so now Messi and Ansu Fati are alone for months. With a new coach in winter. This board is just nuts.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 04 2020 22:27 GMT
#2734
I totally agree with messi. I hate these "many Players...." just say fucking names and dont put the good players in with the bad ones.

WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-05 03:09:23
February 05 2020 03:09 GMT
#2735
I liked Abidal as a player and how he grew at Barcelona, but he clearly f'd up. There are enough leaks in the press already not to put more oil on the fire with sentences like that. On the other hand, Messi should also shut it.

The best that could happen at this point would be terrible results (out of CL fast, lose to RM in the league, etc.) and early elections this summer. Then out with the shitty direction, someone new that also has the balls to kick those players Abidal was referring too (including Messi if needed), and reset for a year or two.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9669 Posts
February 05 2020 12:19 GMT
#2736
sharkie you really complaining about VAR when it must have gifted Liverpool at least 10 points this year and the Champions League last year? I thought you would love it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18438 Posts
February 05 2020 12:34 GMT
#2737
Of course I am. I am first and foremost a fan of fair play. That's why I want -good- and -functioning- VAR in the game
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25548 Posts
February 05 2020 12:55 GMT
#2738
On February 05 2020 12:09 WillyWanker wrote:
I liked Abidal as a player and how he grew at Barcelona, but he clearly f'd up. There are enough leaks in the press already not to put more oil on the fire with sentences like that. On the other hand, Messi should also shut it.

The best that could happen at this point would be terrible results (out of CL fast, lose to RM in the league, etc.) and early elections this summer. Then out with the shitty direction, someone new that also has the balls to kick those players Abidal was referring too (including Messi if needed), and reset for a year or two.

It shouldn’t have leaked, that said unfortunately in the modern game unless you have absolute 100% faith in your coach it’s easier to get rid of the coach financially than a bunch of players.

Barca do have previous in clearing out Deco and Ronaldinho, but that was with Pep coming in and a maturing Messi.

Messi isn’t a problem as a player but perhaps does wield a bit much power and influence based on what snippets we hear. Suarez isn’t the player he once was but him and Messi are very close for example, which probably makes it rather difficult to drop him and give Griezman a run up top. In that sense Suarez being injured might be a good thing for Barca if it helps Griezman hit his best form.

It’s taken a while but it looks like Zidane has got Real back into a solid side, they’ve got Hazard to come back in fresh too.

Should be interesting to see how Barca do. I thought they’d do their usual coast to the league/loss in the CL, perhaps they’re coasting a bit in La Liga and a resurgent Real and a new coach will push them that extra few percent.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25548 Posts
February 05 2020 13:07 GMT
#2739
On February 05 2020 21:34 sharkie wrote:
Of course I am. I am first and foremost a fan of fair play. That's why I want -good- and -functioning- VAR in the game

I believe it’s used differently elsewhere than in the Premier League.

For me if it was used a bit more consistently, broke up the flow a little less and was changed a little with regards to offsides that would be good. Although the actual offside law would need to change, VAR is interpreting a rule designed to be judged by the human eye and not machine precision.

Personally with offside I’d go back to the old ‘daylight’ standard or something close to it. Defenders aren’t getting joy from meticulous played offside traps they’re getting lucky from bad defending while a player happens to have his left ear offside or whatever.

I accept a few teething problems to be ironed out. Football fans love to complain though, my first 3 decades were spent with complaints of referees making wrong decisions, now it seems entering my 4th I shall be having to listen to people complain about VAR until the day I die.

The refereeing mistake that caused me most anguish, Henry’s handball vs Ireland in the playoffs for the 2006 World Cup is the sort of thing that VAR is ideal for.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6934 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-05 13:33:05
February 05 2020 13:31 GMT
#2740
So did you guys hear what happened with VAR in Germany in DFB Cup yesterday? rofl


Bremen - Dortmund
Niklas Moisander hits Giovanni Reyna in the face in the box. Ref Winkmann checks VAR and gives both yellow

Schalke - Berlin
Omar Mascarell nicely tackles Jordan Torunarigha. So far so good. But the latter had too much speed and flailed uncontrolled over the sideline so Schalke manager Wagner tries to catch him.
Ref Osmers checks VAR and gives red to manager Wagner

Edit: Maybe someone can link clips or sth? I don't know where to find and how to link those :/
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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