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On July 01 2024 03:05 Penev wrote: Sure. I'm not going to respond anymore cause you're just going to put words into my mouth, again.
Where did I put words in your mouth?
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was a good race men, don't ruin it. Russel was the goat: i was looking at the screens and saw them fighting, and i was dreaming that maybe, possibly, a crash could happen, and then it did, and i was there to pick up the pieces, so yeyyyyyyyy.
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Sure verstappen turned into crashgatten, let’s not forget he entered formula1 when he was 16. Bit of a regression right there, all with what’s going on between his team principal and his father does not help I guess.
The real question I ask myself is, is Lando Norris capable of passing verstappen in a clean cut scenario with both drivers on same rubber, same pace? Because until now the answer to that question for me is no, at least not yet.
He is the one and only challenger this season to max and his Red Bull. Who else has the pace? I think Mercedes do not, Ferrari do the Ferrari thing, so who else? Oscar Piastri? Perez of course is in the gutter at the moment, so Norris is the only one who can challenge for the drivers championship.
For the constructors, well, that is another pair of gloves, could go anywhere
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I'm kinda old school and thus still a firm believer in more information being preferable to less information, so to contrast the reddit gifs I present the highlights video of Austria 2023: + Show Spoiler +
We have the following situations in which drivers left space on the outside for competitors going wheel to wheel with them into corners: Lap 17 - Sainz for Norris Lap 20 - Perez for Sainz Lap 42 - Perez for Alonso (Alonso actually fell back but Perez still left space) Lap 47 - Norris for Sainz Lap 60 - Perez for Sainz (There is also an instance in which De Vries squeezed Magnussen out and got a penalty for it)
There are also a couple instances in which drivers chose to fall back instead of going wheel to wheel on the outside into the corners: Lap 1 (x2) - Leclerc Lap 26 - Verstappen (this is the situation from the gif) Lap 59 - Perez (managed to overtake in identical fashion to Verstappen in Lap 26) Lap 61 - Perez (again managed to overtake in identical fashion to Verstappen in Lap 26)
I'd say, if anything, Austria 2023 shows us that when fighting wheel to wheel, one can expect to be left some room on the outside of the corner.
And to put things even more into perspective, Austria 2023 was during the Red Bull rocket ship era when both Verstappen and Perez could do whatever and still easily overtake anyone else... Perez fumbled the quali and still managed to finish 3rd despite starting 15th... Verstappen not only won 5 sec ahead of 2nd place and 17 sec ahead of 3rd, but did so by doing one more pit stop than anyone else (4 vs 3) and despite skipping out on the pit stop under VSC that basically everybody else utilized (laps 14&15) + Show Spoiler + To top it of, Verstappen's decision in lap 26 during the overtake was arguably under the presumption that he not only had the better car but also the tyre advantage (2 laps old hards vs 11 laps old mediums)
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Perez out of Q1!!!!
Looks like Sainz was right. The older Ferrari's setup was better
Haas finishes as the best Ferrari powered car ![](/mirror/smilies/bdaybiggrin.gif)
It's a Merc 1 2 !!
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I genuinely have to wonder if Perez is even going to keep his seat out this season at this point. If Red Bull had anyone else even remotely worthy of a candidate he'd been out a long time ago, but neither Yuki nor Ricciardo have shown it.
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