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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 01 2018 20:57 GMT
#1021
Never a wrong time to fire a Colangelo. BUTTTT, the Sixers ownership should announce it right before Sunday's game to fuck with Adam Silver.
Freeeeeeedom
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17002 Posts
June 01 2018 21:13 GMT
#1022
its the friday afternoon news dump time period and with that word of the Pistons' GM getting fired.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-01 22:12:31
June 01 2018 22:08 GMT
#1023
On June 02 2018 03:33 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 02:26 andrewlt wrote:
At least it's not the college charge rules. The defender can be so close that if the offensive player turns around, it's a charge.

That Lebron pic should be a classic. I foresee it used again in the future.


Javale McGee is probably the most excited about it, it helped him team win AND it likely made this the new play for having low basketball IQ instead of his.


It made people forget that the Warriors were making their third quarter run with him and then he missed a WIDE open dunk and got subbed out soon after.

This series isn't just about regular star power. What's wonderful about this series is that it also features 4 Shaqtin a Fool all-stars in Javale McGee, Swaggy P, JR Smith and Kendrick Perkins, with 1 MVP on each side. No matter who wins, two of them are getting a ring.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-01 23:37:47
June 01 2018 23:36 GMT
#1024
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 02 2018 00:49 GMT
#1025
It helps. Rings keep them employed long enough to keep doing stupid shit, especially in the biggest stages. If GS wins a closer than expected series, game 1 will forever be known as the JR game.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 02 2018 00:59 GMT
#1026
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
June 02 2018 03:26 GMT
#1027
not suspending thompson for game 2 is a joke
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 10:35:45
June 02 2018 10:34 GMT
#1028
I think that was a clear block - even when I saw it in real time - but I somehow can understand that fans are upset because the review was about the restricted area. But dont you think the other team would get even more fucked if the refs made a clearly wrong call than the Cavs were now when they used the replay to get the call right?

A comparable situation is in end of game situations when they go to replay to see who touched the ball last when it goes out of bounds and then they have to give the ball to one player because he slapped the arm of the opponent and not the ball (a foul, but he didnt touch the ball last and they cant call a foul). Getting the right call is always better.

On June 02 2018 12:26 zev318 wrote:
not suspending thompson for game 2 is a joke

Its arguably double standards, but its good that we didnt get more cheap suspensions.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 02 2018 11:55 GMT
#1029
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 12:15:46
June 02 2018 12:07 GMT
#1030
On June 02 2018 19:34 Elroi wrote:
But dont you think the other team would get even more fucked if the refs made a clearly wrong call than the Cavs were now when they used the replay to get the call right?

Except the lead official in good position called it a charge. And Steve Javie agreed. Ronnie Nunn also agreed on bball breakdown today. It wasn't a "clearly" wrong call when 3 experienced professionals saw it as a charge, your opinion doesn't really come into it. Most fans are clueless and think any movement or not having your feet set means it can't be a charge. If the initial call on the floor stood this would have been a non-issue compared to the blatant fouls that they actually missed.

As for Tristan I agree he should've been suspended (the initial ejection was shit officiating though), as long as Draymond also got suspended for raking Lebron's face.
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 12:43:16
June 02 2018 12:41 GMT
#1031
Yeah, I've heard the comments from Ronnie Nunn and Steve Javie and I honestly have no good response to that. To me it is clearly a block and most if not all other commentators I have heard seems to agree with that. I mean even if you have a better position with your feet than Lebron had in this case you should get a block for leaning and twisting your body.

I don't think Draymond did that on purpose but that his intention was to block Lebrons vision of the rim. But anyway it should easily be a flagrant one in my opinion since it is pretty bad contact to the face and could potentially be dangerous. Ejection would be too much imo and suspension is just fan-talk.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 02 2018 12:47 GMT
#1032
On June 02 2018 21:07 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 19:34 Elroi wrote:
But dont you think the other team would get even more fucked if the refs made a clearly wrong call than the Cavs were now when they used the replay to get the call right?

Except the lead official in good position called it a charge. And Steve Javie agreed. Ronnie Nunn also agreed on bball breakdown today. It wasn't a "clearly" wrong call when 3 experienced professionals saw it as a charge, your opinion doesn't really come into it. Most fans are clueless and think any movement or not having your feet set means it can't be a charge. If the initial call on the floor stood this would have been a non-issue compared to the blatant fouls that they actually missed.

As for Tristan I agree he should've been suspended (the initial ejection was shit officiating though), as long as Draymond also got suspended for raking Lebron's face.

There is a difference between the two. Draymond deserves an F1 or even F2 because of the damage. It was still clearly a play to obstruct Lebron's view of the ring, and there was no intent to harm Lebron (which Nunn also pointed out). The harm was inadvertent but not malicious, and F1 or F2 is deserved, but not suspension.

Tristan Thompson on the other hand deserves suspension because it was a clear frustration non-basketball play. This is aggravated by two things, he did it on Shaun, hands-down one of the most inoffensive nice guys in the league who will never be involved in bullshit, and Shaun had a valid reason to shoot it as the shot clock was running out, even considering the unspoken gentlemen's rule during garbage time.

Refs ruled it already F1 (down from F2) with $25,000 fine.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 02 2018 14:46 GMT
#1033
I'm as big of a LeBron fan as you'll find but I thought it was a blocking foul both in real time and on the replay. But I also think it's close enough that perhaps the call on the floor should have stood since the normal standard for overturning a call on replay review is irrefutable evidence. Either way it's whatever. I think the bigger issue is the review at all since LeBron was clearly outside of the circle
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 16:28:59
June 02 2018 16:23 GMT
#1034
didnt they say one official called a charge and one called a block so they settled on reviewing it? at least that's what i've heard, and u can clearly see in the replays that the top official was looking to call a charge but he never finished the action cause he kept looking at another referee



yup u can see the baseline official wanted to call a charge (at 0:38-0:39)but the sideline referee wanted to signaled a block (at about 0:49-0:50)
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 16:33:39
June 02 2018 16:31 GMT
#1035
On June 02 2018 19:34 Elroi wrote:
I think that was a clear block - even when I saw it in real time - but I somehow can understand that fans are upset because the review was about the restricted area. But dont you think the other team would get even more fucked if the refs made a clearly wrong call than the Cavs were now when they used the replay to get the call right?

A comparable situation is in end of game situations when they go to replay to see who touched the ball last when it goes out of bounds and then they have to give the ball to one player because he slapped the arm of the opponent and not the ball (a foul, but he didnt touch the ball last and they cant call a foul). Getting the right call is always better.

Show nested quote +
On June 02 2018 12:26 zev318 wrote:
not suspending thompson for game 2 is a joke

Its arguably double standards, but its good that we didnt get more cheap suspensions.



cheap suspension would have been suspending kevin love for stepping on the court. thompson flat out basically punched (even if it was a very weak one) a guy and threw the ball at his face. now the warriors can do the same and the league has set the precedent that it's only a 25k fine. send zaza out there, throw some elbows, get thrown out, punch lebron in the face, pay a 25k fine, whoopie doo.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-02 17:44:02
June 02 2018 17:43 GMT
#1036
The norm is that the team in the lead dribbles out the clock if it can do so without getting a shot clock violation. It was clearly a frustration foul on Thompson's part. I think this is the time of the year when the league should be more lenient. If it's not particularly egregious, they can downgrade it to avoid a suspension. It was more a frustration foul than trying to injure someone.

And definitely no suspension on Love. That would just be stupidly cheap.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 02 2018 18:09 GMT
#1037
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2018 19:17 GMT
#1038
On June 03 2018 01:23 zev318 wrote:
didnt they say one official called a charge and one called a block so they settled on reviewing it? at least that's what i've heard, and u can clearly see in the replays that the top official was looking to call a charge but he never finished the action cause he kept looking at another referee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpmPj5MMyY

yup u can see the baseline official wanted to call a charge (at 0:38-0:39)but the sideline referee wanted to signaled a block (at about 0:49-0:50)

It was a block and charge call that they could not resolve. By rule that would have been a jump. BUT by selecting charge, and saying it needs to be reviewed because of the restricted area rule they could resolve it.

The charge call was a combination super-duper star call for LBJ and the baseline ref trying to look cool.
Freeeeeeedom
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 02 2018 23:38 GMT
#1039
The Colangelo kerfuffle is just getting weirder
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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
June 02 2018 23:39 GMT
#1040
Kidd will potentially coach the Pistons next season.
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