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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-01 02:29:15
October 01 2017 02:14 GMT
#161
@keyboard Warrior
On October 01 2017 04:16 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm really sad that some people may be giving these posts a cursory glance and conclude that they are in any way equivalent.


I apologize for shitting it up, but apparently I have run into an absolute master bullshitter. To the casual onlooker, I can see how it might look like we are just going back and forth but, trust me, his posts are just insults, drivel and projection.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-01 15:18:51
October 01 2017 15:00 GMT
#162
will Lonzo Ball be able to continue with his fairly odd shooting stroke once the NBA's best defensive minds focus in on it? i suspect he will.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
October 01 2017 22:34 GMT
#163
On October 01 2017 11:14 Jerubaal wrote:
@keyboard Warrior
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2017 04:16 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm really sad that some people may be giving these posts a cursory glance and conclude that they are in any way equivalent.


I apologize for shitting it up, but apparently I have run into an absolute master bullshitter. To the casual onlooker, I can see how it might look like we are just going back and forth but, trust me, his posts are just insults, drivel and projection.

I dont know whether hes bragging but Im on your side on the issue. You are correct that we need an epistemological approach and we need to consider the role of the technocrats. Simply ramming pro-science propaganda is not enough. Consider politics everybody hate trump supporters but you can never win them by spreading anti-trump propaganda, it just fuels them. Your discussion was a nice back and forth and I admit I enjoyed reading about flat earth and your knowledge on the topic. The problem is he has become overelaborate and dominant to the discussion. You should not let him do that and you should have stood your ground because you have good points.

On October 02 2017 00:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
will Lonzo Ball be able to continue with his fairly odd shooting stroke once the NBA's best defensive minds focus in on it? i suspect he will.

Do you mean he will continue to shoot with his awkward stroke? Damn hes going to be a block and steal bonanza for guards
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 00:57:29
October 02 2017 00:43 GMT
#164
On October 02 2017 07:34 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2017 00:00 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
will Lonzo Ball be able to continue with his fairly odd shooting stroke once the NBA's best defensive minds focus in on it? i suspect he will.

Do you mean he will continue to shoot with his awkward stroke? Damn hes going to be a block and steal bonanza for guards

initially, i thought so too .. but after watching him in the preseason game against Minnie i think he'll make it work.
anyhow, we'll find out soon enough.

Wiggins was more active on defense than i've ever seen him. when in Wiggins career does he shoot 3 for 12 and end up +13? prolly never. its game 1 of the pre-season so the 3-12 doesn't mean anything. the +13 does though.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 02 2017 09:31 GMT
#165
It's a good thing Lonzo is quite tall, because just on this preseason footage his jumpshot seems really easy to contest (and he sways forward a lot so it's not helping). If he ever becomes an offensive scoring threat and elite "sizeable" defenders are assigned to him, it will be really tough for him to get a shot off.

What I can see happening is him developing a tendency to shoot from several steps behind the line for additional space, and have subpar 3pt% as a result. Between preseason and summer league, he already took a number of deep 3s that he doesn't have the skill to make.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
October 02 2017 10:51 GMT
#166
Im not sure Lonzo will ever be much of a scoring threat. If he does make it he'll be that J Kidd/ good Rondo type.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 02 2017 12:08 GMT
#167
I'm not exactly sure what the consensus is on Lonzo's ceiling. I've read people say it's Kidd, but on the other hand Lakers fans seem to think they have the next superstar.
I think Lonzo does need a reliable 3pt shot if he really wants to be successful in today's game. He doesn't seem to have the kind of athletism that allows you to get by without a good jumper.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 02 2017 13:11 GMT
#168
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Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 02 2017 13:23 GMT
#169
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 13:53:54
October 02 2017 13:53 GMT
#170
Reports are saying that Tristan Thompson is being moved to the Cavs' bench.
On August 25 2017 17:47 ZenithM wrote:So what would be the lineup if we assume Crowder starts? Imo they should try moving away from TT at Center and try Love, for a IT-JR-Crowder-Lebron-Love lineup.

That's what I was thinking in the offseaon thread. Seems like Crowder would defend 4s though. And of course now they have Wade
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 15:09:00
October 02 2017 15:02 GMT
#171
if Cleveland is serious about starting Wade and Rose they need a 3 point threat for spacing. So Love plays Center and whoever plays power forward needs to be a 3 point threat as well.
On October 02 2017 22:23 JimmiC wrote:
Everything i read about him predraft from ex coaches was that 100 % he would need to fix his shot. But that none of them would try to do it this year. They all thought that would be overload. They suggested letting him adjust to the NBA this year and figuring out the jumper next year and so on.

this also gives Ball 1 year to prove that his shooting style works. it'd be pretty disheartening for Ball to hear "look we know ur shot is useless so don't even bother trying it because it won't work... `we just know` .. so shut up and rebuild your shooting stroke from scratch you stupid puke"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 15:35:36
October 02 2017 15:21 GMT
#172
Must be pretty disheartening indeed to smoke clowns from downtown all your life on the basketball court, and then being told that it won't cut it at the NBA level so you have to begin from zero.
I'm guessing that players with a funky release but with decent percentages in college thought all their life their shot was a strength and would carry them forward . His jumpshot is not dead yet, maybe he'll have success with it.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
October 02 2017 15:35 GMT
#173
What are Ball's college stats?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
October 02 2017 15:42 GMT
#174
I just saw he had a 41.2 3pt% at UCLA. That's kinda good for a college player right?
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 02 2017 15:47 GMT
#175
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 02 2017 16:06 GMT
#176
Reggie Miller made his ugly release work. You can succeed in the NBA without perfect form. It's just a matter of whether your shot is too slow and easy to contest. If you can get it off easily, it's fine.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 02 2017 17:11 GMT
#177
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16998 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-02 18:08:01
October 02 2017 17:59 GMT
#178
i thought so until i watched him in game. it was only 1 game though. time will tell. if he doesn't get blocked much and his #s are solid... "if it ain't broke .. don't fix it".

i really like how the NBA altered the draft lottery. here are hte new odds.
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all non-playoff teams have a shot at the top 4 picks in the draft.

on average the worst NBA team gets selection 3.66.
2nd worst team gets pick 3.86 and 3rd worst team gets pick 4.06

the changes are implemented with the 2019 draft.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 02 2017 19:17 GMT
#179
On October 03 2017 02:11 JimmiC wrote:
Right, ands balls is slow and low. Thats what he needs to fix


Remember the Red Mamba on the Spurs? I forgot his name. I just remember his 3-pt release being slow. He was a PF/C and his shots would just disappear in the playoffs.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 02 2017 19:33 GMT
#180
You are referencing Scalabrine?
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