EPTI really think the solution to the All-Star game is to have it USA vs. The World
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
I really think the solution to the All-Star game is to have it USA vs. The World | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ2ArstgKHQ/ | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/markelle-fultz-jump-shot-sixers-76ers-brett-brown-concerns-20171002.html "his heart is in the right place" the road to hell is paved with good intentions. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 04 2017 13:08 Twinkle Toes wrote: https://twitter.com/HowardBeck/status/915290395273256961 I really think the solution to the All-Star game is to have it USA vs. The World the solution to all star game is for players to play for their own money. u bet that would get everyone to play 100% hard. each player puts up 50-100k (might even need more since for the players that get chosen to the teams, its not even like half a game cheque), winning team takes all. of course tho, no one will go for that. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
Fultz was "meh" tonight. So far Ball > Fultz in every area of the game except pull up shots when carrying the ball with his right hand. Ball is a lot more physical than Fultz. so i guess Simmons is the starting PG and Fultz is the 2nd string PG for Philly this year? is Philly really gonna make Fultz an off-ball guard when he is on the floor with Simmons? | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On October 05 2017 10:17 zev318 wrote: the solution to all star game is for players to play for their own money. u bet that would get everyone to play 100% hard. each player puts up 50-100k (might even need more since for the players that get chosen to the teams, its not even like half a game cheque), winning team takes all. of course tho, no one will go for that. I'm not religious anymore but there is this saying from the Bible about not being able to serve two masters at the same time. There really is no solution. Any time anybody has two or more competing priorities, one will win out in the end. | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
NBA will not allow it though. PR disaster whichever team wins. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
the only individual "national pride" would be for team USA and its obvious the USA is the #1 basketball nation in the world by a large margin. Team USA has enough problems getting its players to participate in anything including the Olympics. Playing for "Team World" offers zero national pride motivation. You're not going to convince some American nursing an injury to go 100% at an all star game the way that same player would for the NBA playoffs. That American will take the 4 days off and spend it in the the physiotherapists office trying to rehab. Then , there is also the obvious excuse "we never play together" no matter what the result is. All this stuff kills the motive to give 100% at an All-Star game. | ||
c3rberUs
Japan11286 Posts
On October 05 2017 08:24 Twinkle Toes wrote: Here's some quality shit lol https://www.instagram.com/p/BZ2ArstgKHQ/ lmao | ||
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On October 05 2017 21:37 JimmyJRaynor wrote: You're not going to convince some American nursing an injury to go 100% at an all star game the way that same player would for the NBA playoffs. That American will take the 4 days off and spend it in the the physiotherapists office trying to rehab. Why would an injured player play or be allowed play? You're talking crazy as usual, using bad examples as defense. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On October 06 2017 01:28 JimmiC wrote: A Richard Jefferson sighting! https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1391006-report-cavs-have-discussed-jefferson-possibly-not-making-roster-with-agent What is shocking about this is by our own special prognosticator he still has 1 year of superior play to T. Ross and could be a starter on a weak team, odd that they would consider cutting him and eating his salary? Cavs are bloated. I dunno whats going to happen to RJ, but if he retires, that zen moment of his on the bench while the rest of the team ran to the center court after the buzzer of the 2016 championship was epic. Decades of what-could-have-been and underperformance were all exorcised with that one moment. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
On October 06 2017 01:07 Twinkle Toes wrote: Why would an injured player play or be allowed play? You're talking crazy as usual, using bad examples as defense. "injured" in many cases is not a binary condition especially with soft tissue injuries.. you ever played with tendonitis? or bursitis? or a partially healed ankle sprain? you'll frequently hear many coaches and players say "if this were the playoffs he'd be in the game, however, at this stage of the season we're playing it safe and keeping him out of the game". what will never happen is "well we are keeping him out of this regular season game as a precaution. but if this were the big USA v. world AllStar game OR the playoffs he'd be starting... especially the AllStar game because we need Team USA to win by at least 60 points" USA v. The World is not viable for many reasons. i've named a few. As I eluded earlier, the game would not be close. I'll amplify that point further: Last year 2 non-Americans made the AllStar game and were given token minutes. So legit American players who should be in the AllStar game will be turned away as we watch guys like Corey Joseph weave their magic and "The World" gets its face smashed in. ya man, great concept. On October 06 2017 01:28 JimmiC wrote: A Richard Jefferson sighting! https://www.thescore.com/nba/news/1391006-report-cavs-have-discussed-jefferson-possibly-not-making-roster-with-agent What is shocking about this is by our own special prognosticator he still has 1 year of superior play to T. Ross and could be a starter on a weak team, odd that they would consider cutting him and eating his salary? thanks for the laugh. Ross is a career 36% shooter in the playoffs. RJ shot 42% last year.. .bad for him.. but better than Ross. you had your opportunity to criticize RJ's level of play during the 2017 playoffs and declined. my comments about RJ's performance in the 2017 playoffs are still there and they still stand. When it comes to defense there is no comparison. RJ >> Ross. Which is why Lue assigns RJ to cover Durant. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Cavs do seem deeper this year at the cost of Irving. Not sure if having more non-shooters to throw at Durant is a good thing but they have that option. Jae Crowder did have a career year on 3pt% last year, though. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Twinkle Toes
United States3605 Posts
On October 06 2017 01:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: "injured" in many cases is not a binary condition especially with soft tissue injuries.. you ever played with tendonitis? or bursitis? or a partially healed ankle sprain? you'll frequently hear many coaches and players say "if this were the playoffs he'd be in the game, however, at this stage of the season we're playing it safe and keeping him out of the game". what will never happen is "well we are keeping him out of this regular season game as a precaution. but if this were the big USA v. world AllStar game OR the playoffs he'd be starting... especially the AllStar game because we need Team USA to win by at least 60 points" USA v. The World is not viable for many reasons. i've named a few. As I eluded earlier, the game would not be close. I'll amplify that point further: Last year 2 non-Americans made the AllStar game and were given token minutes. So legit American players who should be in the AllStar game will be turned away as we watch guys like Corey Joseph weave their magic and "The World" gets its face smashed in. ya man, great concept. thanks for the laugh. Ross is a career 36% shooter in the playoffs. RJ shot 42% last year.. .bad for him.. but better than Ross. you had your opportunity to criticize RJ's level of play during the 2017 playoffs and declined. my comments about RJ's performance in the 2017 playoffs are still there and they still stand. When it comes to defense there is no comparison. RJ >> Ross. Which is why Lue assigns RJ to cover Durant. You're really just a simple idiot. Here's the discussion: ME: Improve All Star - USA vs. the World. Players will play more competitively because something is at stake (national pride and beating "the best" in the world, respectively), but would be a PR disaster for NBA YOU: Injured players won't play and will just take the day off to heal ME: Well duh!!!. (I'll explain just in case this escaped your moronic lying coward brain. When people say play competitively, the assumption is that you the best players will play, AND THIS ASSUMES THIS PLAYERS CAN AND ARE NOT INJURED. You bringing up resting injured players in an All-Star game is, even considering your previous comments about you watching games live and hiding from challenges when your bullshit is called, and you bragging about your scout uncle, a record level idiot love. Is it clear now?) YOU: Tendonitis. Bursitis. Verbal diarrhea. Verbal Gonorrhea, More motherfucking bullshit. Just shut the fuck up you lying coward idiot. PS: And I won't even comment on your statement about RJ guarding Durant. Yeah, that was a good strategy. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
On October 06 2017 07:40 Twinkle Toes wrote: You're really just a simple idiot. Here's the discussion: ME: Improve All Star - USA vs. the World. Players will play more competitively because something is at stake (national pride and beating "the best" in the world, respectively), but would be a PR disaster for NBA YOU: Injured players won't play and will just take the day off to heal ME: Well duh!!!. (I'll explain just in case this escaped your moronic lying coward brain. When people say play competitively, the assumption is that you the best players will play, AND THIS ASSUMES THIS PLAYERS CAN AND ARE NOT INJURED. You bringing up resting injured players in an All-Star game is, even considering your previous comments about you watching games live and hiding from challenges when your bullshit is called, and you bragging about your scout uncle, a record level idiot love. Is it clear now?) YOU: Tendonitis. Bursitis. Verbal diarrhea. Verbal Gonorrhea, More motherfucking bullshit. Just shut the fuck up you lying coward idiot. PS: And I won't even comment on your statement about RJ guarding Durant. Yeah, that was a good strategy. personal attacks are an invalid form of argument. and USA v. The World is not viable for the reasons i've named. they can't even get LBJ and Curry to show up for the Olympics... so relying on their "patriotism" to motivate them to bring it 100% for an AllStar game which will be a landslide victory for Team USA won't work. i'm glad you're a big fan of my posting history though.  On October 06 2017 05:37 JimmiC wrote: Your lust for him is crazy. being better than Terrence Ross isn't much. | ||
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karazax
United States3737 Posts
I think the upcoming change is interesting, but doesn't go far enough to make a real difference. The problem is they are still taking 12 guys from the east. If they aren't going to play east vs west, they should just take the best 24 players, which would be dominated by players from the west this year. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
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