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On April 06 2017 07:58 andrewlt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 07:23 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2017 07:16 MassHysteria wrote:+ Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SqNwDOn.jpg) Every week I try to highlight an interesting read or graphic or video that I find... 4/4/2017:-- ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8k59BrXsAAEXal.jpg:large) this seems to move in a similar pattern as that historical 2 point shooting thing i posted; where 2 point shooting is getting more and more accurate and being employed by teams less and less. no idea if there is any cause and effect between the 2 though. i guess during your typical NBA play there are , on average, far more guys standing near the 3 point line than in 1980. You can't really bring in an offensive rebound when you're 22+ feet from the hoop. That's not the cause. It has to do with Popovich's influence once again. Teams that crash the offensive glass are prone to giving up transition baskets if they don't succeed in getting the rebound. The Spurs started having more of their players run back on defense versus getting an offensive rebound. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/14505051/transition-defense-left-offensive-rebounds-cutting-room-floor
or it could be a combination of many things.
i'll bet you in 1980, on average when the shot is made there is something like 0.86445 players sitting on the 3 point line and today there is something like 1.98654345 sitting on the line. furthermore i'd say that # of guys standing on the 3 point line has been slowly and inevitably climbing since the 3 point line was introduced. if you are 23 feet away when the shot is released its hard to compete for the rebound.
in the old basketball bios i've read i find it funny that Bird , during his time, was regarded as this big 3 point sniper guy and yet the most 3-pointers he averaged was 3/game and for his career he average 2 attempts per game.
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Lakers up 40-14 on spurs. FFS!
I forgot this is 2nd night of B2B for Spurs.
40-21 now as I typed this. Cmon spurs
Edit: @jimmyj ya the Lowe piece linked goes into that as well
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But...why...? These are pretty meaningless games for the Spurs. They can't lose the 2nd seed or HC advantage in the Finals. It's unlikely they will make up the 4 games on the Warriors. Lakers can't even lose right.
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Korver and Jefferson are moving a lot better than the last time i saw them ~2 weeks ago. the time off prolly did them a lot of good.
they're both battling tendonitis in their legs.
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Spurs will always take any opportunity to screw the lakers over :D
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On April 06 2017 11:33 Scarecrow wrote:
Spurs will always take any opportunity to screw the lakers over :D
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On April 06 2017 11:15 JimmiC wrote:
Lowry played great tonight. He carried the Raps, basically no one else could hit the broad side of barn. Lucky it was enough to beat a bad pistons team. I think they will make noise in the playoffs, still hard to bet against Bron Bron though.
huh? Toronto shot almost dead bang on their season average. from 3.. a single failed shot below average. overall they made 1 more shot than their FG average. for FTs it was 1 extra made FT above their average.
Lowry was the most important player because he played 42 minutes... did he carry the team? nah. JV was 11-13 ... Derozan had 10 assists... Casey pulled the right strings when the starting lineup laid an egg.
It was interesting to watch Casey trot out his "offense at all costs" lineup because they trailed almost the entire game. Its nice to see Casey go with JV and Joseph a lot when he needs offense. I hope Casey uses Wright with the lead.. if they ever have one 
out of Toronto's 48 wins this year 20 of them are with the Raptors being down 10+. Tonight they were down 20. It feels like Toronto is down by 10 every time they play. sometimes they come back... sometimes they don't
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On April 06 2017 06:59 Nemireck wrote:Anyone else here watch the channel BBallBreakdown on Youtube? He just did a nice little breakdown of the Cav's defense (or lack thereof). + Show Spoiler +
the video offers some good insight. especially at the 7 minute mark. However, Korver and Jefferson are both battling tendonitis in their legs. 1 guy has it in his knee and the other guy in his achilles. They've both taken time off. Compared to 2 weeks ago both guys moved a lot better tonight. I think the poor movement and poor health of Korver and Jefferson is also a contributing factor to the poor team defense of Cleveland.
Tendonitis needs rest and often comes back if you first get it in the middle of the season... so it'll be interesting to see how long these guys can stay healthy.
I think if either of these guys is moving like shit in the playoffs they'll end up on the bench long before it can hurt Cleveland's defense.
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How can these teams be this bad at 3 pointers.
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I feel like Luke Walton did everything he could there, as any of the good young prospects were kept out after halftime. What can you do when a lineup of Ennis, Nwaba, Brewer, Robinson, and Black beats the #2 team in the league?
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On April 06 2017 12:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 06:59 Nemireck wrote:Anyone else here watch the channel BBallBreakdown on Youtube? He just did a nice little breakdown of the Cav's defense (or lack thereof). + Show Spoiler +https://youtu.be/Bm0svVeNo3s the video offers some good insight. especially at the 7 minute mark. However, Korver and Jefferson are both battling tendonitis in their legs. 1 guy has it in his knee and the other guy in his achilles. They've both taken time off. Compared to 2 weeks ago both guys moved a lot better tonight. I think the poor movement and poor health of Korver and Jefferson is also a contributing factor to the poor team defense of Cleveland. Tendonitis needs rest and often comes back if you first get it in the middle of the season... so it'll be interesting to see how long these guys can stay healthy. I think if either of these guys is moving like shit in the playoffs they'll end up on the bench long before it can hurt Cleveland's defense.
Ya he doesn't give too much Credence to players playing while hurt. He has another video on the Raptors where he treats that stretch that Patterson was hurt as if "In the game? No problem he's 100%"
Although I do find it interesting how easily you make excuses for the Cavs while treating the Patterson injury as no big deal, Bench+Lowry just got "solved".
I'm a bit more consistent and say the tendonitis problems are just as important as Patterson playing hurt and dealing with a bum knee. But injuries don't change that Cavs still playing shit on D same as Nogiuera was a problem getting regular minutes off the bench.
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I mean, SA played 4 total randos + Simmons for 20+ minutes. If anything, this was Simmons' game to take over and he kinda didn't.
Also, holy cow, I just realized MWP is still on the Lakers.
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On April 06 2017 12:40 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I feel like Luke Walton did everything he could there, as any of the good young prospects were kept out after halftime. What can you do when a lineup of Ennis, Nwaba, Brewer, Robinson, and Black beats the #2 team in the league?
Ya I think he did too. BI only played 10 minutes. He put Metta out there for the most minutes he has played all season (I am pretty sure, haven't verified). They just came out hot in that first quarter and the Spurs came out flat. I knew Pop would sit out his starters if it was out of reach, but even though it still was in the 2nd half, he still sat them out. bahh
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next year we're getting MLB/NHL style 2-way contracts with affiliated d-league teams and a 17 man roster. So next year's Tankathon should be epic. I can see a team shutting down 5 guys for "health reasons" while calling up D-leaguers to "develop" in the NBA. let's close out the year by losing 25 in a row guys!
On April 06 2017 13:21 Nemireck wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 12:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On April 06 2017 06:59 Nemireck wrote:Anyone else here watch the channel BBallBreakdown on Youtube? He just did a nice little breakdown of the Cav's defense (or lack thereof). + Show Spoiler +https://youtu.be/Bm0svVeNo3s the video offers some good insight. especially at the 7 minute mark. However, Korver and Jefferson are both battling tendonitis in their legs. 1 guy has it in his knee and the other guy in his achilles. They've both taken time off. Compared to 2 weeks ago both guys moved a lot better tonight. I think the poor movement and poor health of Korver and Jefferson is also a contributing factor to the poor team defense of Cleveland. Tendonitis needs rest and often comes back if you first get it in the middle of the season... so it'll be interesting to see how long these guys can stay healthy. I think if either of these guys is moving like shit in the playoffs they'll end up on the bench long before it can hurt Cleveland's defense. Ya he doesn't give too much Credence to players playing while hurt. He has another video on the Raptors where he treats that stretch that Patterson was hurt as if "In the game? No problem he's 100%" Although I do find it interesting how easily you make excuses for the Cavs while treating the Patterson injury as no big deal, Bench+Lowry just got "solved". I'm a bit more consistent and say the tendonitis problems are just as important as Patterson playing hurt and dealing with a bum knee. But injuries don't change that Cavs still playing shit on D same as Nogiuera was a problem getting regular minutes off the bench.
not really an excuse. i can see Lue letting Korver hang himself in the regular season when he is clearly hobbled. then i can see Lue having a quick hook in the playoffs if Korver is equally hobbled as he was 2 weeks ago. Korver is a role player. If he can play it successfully he'll get minutes during playoff games. If he is too hurt .. well .. that's what they've got a 15 man roster for.
Nogueira plays under onerous restrictions regarding ball-handling and shot selection during non-garbage time and the first 22 seconds of the shot clock. Once teams figured this out and adjusted the Lowry+Bench lineup stopped producing at stupid high levels. Casey is not lifting those restrictions any time soon.
http://nbasavant.com/player.php?player_id=203512
imo, Your point about Patterson is valid. Him playing hurt can only make any lineup he is part of worse compared to how that line up plays with Patterson when he is healthy.
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LA is gunning for the 4th pick, lol. They've won like 3 games recently and beat 2 playoff teams. The Nets keep winning, but if LA paces them it does no good.
Rip the dream
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On April 05 2017 21:23 JimmiC wrote:
Xeris I think you got taken if I read the bet right that you have the wizards raps and warriors to make the finals and Bob has everything else, with no odds. That being said I appreciate your guts and putting money behind your prediction and wish you luck!
I feel like the only realistic team out west is Golden State. Imo Cavs, Raps, Wiz are the only realistic teams out East. Boston is vastly overrated imo (like Raps 2 years ago... gold regular season team but will get exposed in the playoffs).
Therefore, at least in my mind, the only outcomes are gsw-cavs, gsw-raps, gsw-wiz. Giving myself 2/3 chance to be right. Obviously in reality who knows, but those are my bets. I've been to Vegas twice over the past few months and won pretty consistently betting on NBA games there and I watch a lot of ball and played myself at a pretty high level, so I'm just banking on my intuition being right.
Maybe I'm dead wrong, but that's part of the fun of betting :d
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So Lakers are >50% chance of losing their pick. As an interesting aside, if the pick does convey to Philly (Hinkie nailing it again) the Bucks would have officially traded a top 3 pick for MCW.
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Nets went 6-3 in their last 9 games but still need to go 3-1 in their final four to tie Phoenix. That assumes Phoenix loses their last 3 games. The Warriors almost tried to give the game away to them last night but Phoenix held strong.
The Lakers finish the season with Kings, Wolves, Pelicans and Warriors. They could possible finish the season on a 6 game winning streak. LOL
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