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On March 10 2017 18:05 Pandemona wrote:
Rostov draw for Yanited was ok in theory but i would have fancied them to finish the tie there with a 2 goal win but they end up drawing and making the Thursday game even more important. Monday trip to Chelsea without Zlatan could be very interesting now as im sure Mourinho is not caring about FA Cup when he has Champions league to chase either via 4th place or Europa league win which is looking more likely.
rostov draw was the worst possible draw for united, even in theory. we have the most congested fixture schedule, we didnt need to travel to russia and face a team that can stand up to the likes of bayern as well.
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Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness.
Hear, hear
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On March 10 2017 20:29 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness. Hear, hear
Yeah you should read that full article and apply that same sentiment to the columnist.
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On March 10 2017 20:31 sneirac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 20:29 sharkie wrote:Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness. Hear, hear Yeah you should read that full article and apply that same sentiment to the columnist.
I have literally no idea what you mean o.O
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On March 10 2017 20:33 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 20:31 sneirac wrote:On March 10 2017 20:29 sharkie wrote:Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness. Hear, hear Yeah you should read that full article and apply that same sentiment to the columnist. I have literally no idea what you mean o.O
Selective blindness. He completely ignores any contact during the Suarez penalty, calls the first penalty dubious and well:
"If you watch back through the dying stages, Barça’s players are throwing themselves to the floor with such desperation it is comical."
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You guys are missing the point.
Barca= more twitter followers=more drama if they win=more views=more money=$$$
Barca eliminated, only gain is Luis might lose his job sooner
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On March 10 2017 21:03 Skynx wrote:
You guys are missing the point.
Barca= more twitter followers=more drama if they win=more views=more money=$$$
Barca eliminated, only gain is Luis might lose his job sooner
Did you come up with that theory all by yourself ? THIS IS HUGE ??? I CALL FOR AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION INTO UEFALONA !
On March 10 2017 20:39 sneirac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 20:33 sharkie wrote:On March 10 2017 20:31 sneirac wrote:On March 10 2017 20:29 sharkie wrote:Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness. Hear, hear Yeah you should read that full article and apply that same sentiment to the columnist. I have literally no idea what you mean o.O Selective blindness. He completely ignores any contact during the Suarez penalty, calls the first penalty dubious and well: "If you watch back through the dying stages, Barça’s players are throwing themselves to the floor with such desperation it is comical."
Its a pretty clear clickbait article to draw in the Sharkie crowd. There will always be a market for it.
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Oh come on, both penalties are a joke BUT...
this isnt a 2-1 game that Barcelona came back from, we are talking a 4-0 lead here, like i said, you cant fucking blame the ef for losing 6-1 after winning the first leg 4-0, like seriously, any team with a little bit of self respect would have resist that, just run and be a nuisance and Barcelona wold not have done half what they did, PSG would have not played the game and the result would have been the same.
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Seriously they didnt even name the correct ref (Deniz Aytekin). This "Guido Klev"e guy they are naming is a former ref who used to referee german third division matches in 2004-2008 according to google. Just how???
Irrespective of some valild points the author has, this somehow makes it difficult to that article seriously for me.
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I thought Man Utd had the biggest following on social media? And Yanited are the biggest club in the world financially BY A LONG WAY so that doesn't bode well either.
That article is a disgrace as well, i hate Barca and what they stand for but this PSG lost because of a crap referee or spoiled the game is a bit hard for me to take. Referee booked Suarez for diving in the game how can he be favoring Barca lol! The article also states the referee as a name that isn't him, it seems more like Sharkie wrote that article for the Guardian somehow.
Like i said this is coming from a guy who still has nightmares over 2009 which was A DISGRACE xD
Oh well, i like how it generated so much attention it's great for the game to debate everything that happens, as its the only way for it to improve in the long run. FA Cup from 3rd round onwards next season in England will have video referee's. Then our 2nd division will have goal line technology in it as well as of start of next season. So everything is moving in the right direction for me.
Oh FIFA already said the Russian world cup will have video technology in as well!
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On March 10 2017 23:59 Faruko wrote:
Oh come on, both penalties are a joke BUT...
this isnt a 2-1 game that Barcelona came back from, we are talking a 4-0 lead here, like i said, you cant fucking blame the ef for losing 6-1 after winning the first leg 4-0, like seriously, any team with a little bit of self respect would have resist that, just run and be a nuisance and Barcelona wold not have done half what they did, PSG would have not played the game and the result would have been the same.
The first penalty was a penalty, sure he was looking for it but the infringement was there. The second one was a dive.
There is complete consensus on this.
Secondly while the point you made (which at this point has been made like 30 times in this thread alone) is valid, If I am PSG I still have right to feel jipped. I wouldnt blame the ref if I was them either considering the margins they had to work with but still it does suck.
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On March 10 2017 23:10 Rebs wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 21:03 Skynx wrote:
You guys are missing the point.
Barca= more twitter followers=more drama if they win=more views=more money=$$$
Barca eliminated, only gain is Luis might lose his job sooner Did you come up with that theory all by yourself ? THIS IS HUGE ??? I CALL FOR AN IMMEDIATE INVESTIGATION INTO UEFALONA ! Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 20:39 sneirac wrote:On March 10 2017 20:33 sharkie wrote:On March 10 2017 20:31 sneirac wrote:On March 10 2017 20:29 sharkie wrote:Just as Barcelona are a brilliant team, who revolutionised football to an extent, and Suárez is a wonderful player, this should not provide an excuse for selective blindness. Hear, hear Yeah you should read that full article and apply that same sentiment to the columnist. I have literally no idea what you mean o.O Selective blindness. He completely ignores any contact during the Suarez penalty, calls the first penalty dubious and well: "If you watch back through the dying stages, Barça’s players are throwing themselves to the floor with such desperation it is comical." Its a pretty clear clickbait article to draw in the Sharkie crowd. There will always be a market for it.
hihihi
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i dont get people saying psg deserved to lose the tie because they threw a 4-0 lead even if barca got help. yeah its a massive throw but the same argument could be made to barca for losing 4-0 in the first place.
psg absolutely dominated barca in far more legitimate circumstances and deserved to go through on that performance alone.
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On March 10 2017 19:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2017 18:05 Pandemona wrote:
Rostov draw for Yanited was ok in theory but i would have fancied them to finish the tie there with a 2 goal win but they end up drawing and making the Thursday game even more important. Monday trip to Chelsea without Zlatan could be very interesting now as im sure Mourinho is not caring about FA Cup when he has Champions league to chase either via 4th place or Europa league win which is looking more likely. rostov draw was the worst possible draw for united, even in theory. we have the most congested fixture schedule, we didnt need to travel to russia and face a team that can stand up to the likes of bayern as well.
The double meaning of the word 'draw' in English is confusing me reading this conversation.
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oh. didnt realise pande was probably talking about the 1-1 draw. in that case yeah i agree with what he said lol
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I think the Suarez move is worse than Ibra's elbow and for me, should be punished heavier. A 5+ match ban for stuff like this is fine by me. I'm with Drone, no love for this piece of cheat.
If I were on the pitch, I'd probably react like this 
![[image loading]](http://cdn-r1.unilad.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Pepe-GIF.gif)
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The only way to deal with diving is post match reviewing. It's just to hard for the refree to tell sometimes. That's why players do it. Everytime someone is found to have dived by a proper post match anyalsis board they should be handed a 2 match ban. That way if a player dives 5 times in a match he can end up missing the next ten games. The referees decision is still final even if he was wrong and gave a penalty or whatever. Players would be much less willing to dive but the refree is not underminded and the game doesn't have to be halted for video reviews.
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On March 12 2017 11:46 Greg_J wrote:
The only way to deal with diving is post match reviewing. It's just to hard for the refree to tell sometimes. That's why players do it. Everytime someone is found to have dived by a proper post match anyalsis board they should be handed a 2 match ban. That way if a player dives 5 times in a match he can end up missing the next ten games. The referees decision is still final even if he was wrong and gave a penalty or whatever. Players would be much less willing to dive but the refree is not underminded and the game doesn't have to be halted for video reviews.
That might work on a regular league game, but I'm not sure if it prevents diving in decider matches where all that matters is winning that particular game regardless of the consequences. Not that I have any better solutions though.
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i agree that diving needs to be punished even post match just like violent conduct is being handled.
in matches like the CL final, you can only hope that the system you have put in place has done its job well enough that players will have already changed their mind about diving. if it wasnt, then theres nothing you can do about it but hand out match bans which carry over to the season after. its the most you can do without changing the results of a finished game.
tbh if a player is really that committed to cheating theres not much footballing bodies can do without breaking precedent and either just giving the player a massive/lifetime ban. you just got to have faith that theres still sportsmanship left in football and the players stamp diving out themselves once they know they cant get away with it.
not sure itll work on suarez though, being a cheating rat is just in that guys blood. will never forget the handball incident in the worldcup. normal diving doesnt even come close to the lack of sportsmanship you have to have to pull off that kind of crap
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