2016 - 2017 Football Thread - Page 185

On March 12 2017 20:04 evilfatsh1t wrote:

im not imposing my own idea of sportsmanship at all. i could bet my left nut that most people would agree that suarez's handball incident is one of the lowest forms of cheating this sport has seen. pretty sure its just you who thinks the handball incident was "only" as bad as any other diving incident.
stopping a player going on through for a 1v1 has different consequences. you could choose to not bring the player down and your goalkeeper could still make a save, or you could choose the bring the player down and get sent off for it. there is a clear gamble between choices here.
you standing on the line handballing a ball away is making a choice that is clear as day. you either stop it and get sent off or you accept that the ball goes in.
funny you should mention the video, i literally watched it 5 seconds before i made the post because i wanted to confirm my recollection. he did in fact move his head to disguise the handball as a header. he did act surprised when the ref sent him off. he did pull his shirt above his head because he was "crying", which lets be honest was a load of shit because literally 5 seconds later when gyan missed the penalty he celebrated like he just scored the winner for the world cup final (which in a way you could say he did). there were 3 separate instances in that entire incident where he was trying to play the victim. so please, go watch the video again and tell me on your high horse how i was exaggerating what he did rofl
a player with class or grace would have accepted that the end result is they lost the game, regardless of who was the better team. thats football

again, just because there are people doing it doesnt make it ok. by your logic if you found a loophole in the law that allowed you to get away with murder youd do it, because why not? the system allows me to. herp derp
if it were up to me id have retrospective bans on a whole lot of shit but realistically speaking its unfeasible to have bans for every shirt tug or late tackle, which is why people focus on the priorities which are particularly worse acts such as diving. the lack of attention to those other cases doesnt mean people ignore the fact that other forms of cheating happen in the sport.
violent tackles should be punished retrospectively, like with violent conduct although im pretty sure in some cases they are considered the same anyway. other tackles you could make arguments for and against, but tbh im indifferent. whether something is unsportsmanlike comes a lot from the intent of the player. hector moreno broke shaw's leg last season. does that make him unsportsmanlike? no, at least not from that incident alone. its clear he wasnt intending to injure shaw, the tackle was just executed poorly in the heat of the moment and shaw's foot just happened to be in a position which could not lessen the impact.
i think you need to look up what the definition of sportsmanship means mate, because youre not making a very good case for why suarez isnt a dirtbag in the world of football. i mean the guy literally went around biting players because of his own anger management issue or whatever defense he came up with.
honestly i cant believe the topic at hand got derailed so much by me having to explain why suarez is a dirty player. its a complete no brainer and if you cant see that then you must actually have no brain

On March 13 2017 04:12 Pr0wler wrote:

First goal was from offside ?? I watched it 10 times and I still can't see the offside. All I can see is Mascherano fucking up.

On March 13 2017 10:08 DucK- wrote:
Ehhh I think professional fouls are OK and diving cannot be put in the same category as it. Professional foul is intentionally fouling to stop play in exchange for a card. Very high chance you will receive punishment for it.

Diving though is trying to deceive the referee, hoping for a reward. While you may get carded for it, diving has been successful too many times. I'd even put Suarez goalkeeping antics in the world cup as less 'sinful'. At least you're likely to get red carded + penalty. Almost akin to professional foul. Trade offs.

On March 13 2017 14:34 sharkie wrote:
If anyone wants to know how bad La Liga refs are, just watch last night's Real game.
Navas should have gotten penalized first half (clearly Barca fans will call conspiracy) but then Ronaldo was fouled edge of penalty area in a counter -> nothing happened, then a clear regular goal was judged offside from Ronaldo.

So yeah Barca fans, don't call conspiracy theories. La liga refs are just that abysmal

On March 13 2017 15:16 sharkie wrote:
Also Pande, once again Morata started and did not accomplish anything.

Benzema > Morata is proven once again :D
The team plays much better when Benzema is on the field.

On March 13 2017 04:39 RvB wrote:

Good to see that he's still a good player. We really need him to step up for our national team.

On March 13 2017 15:12 Rebs wrote:


Players get away with fouls and kicks and pulls all the time and argue their defense when the do get penalized.Is that not an attempt to deceive ? Ofcourse no, thats just a part of the game, something something contact sport,



Im still looking for them... they appear as much a theory to me as this supposed conspiracy,