EPTThe funny thing: all these people cry slaughter if a ref shits on their team and affects a match' outcome.
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sharkie
Austria18774 Posts
The funny thing: all these people cry slaughter if a ref shits on their team and affects a match' outcome. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18489 Posts
On March 09 2017 20:43 sharkie wrote: What's really worrisome is how many people believe ref's mistakes are not worth discussing because PSG played abysmally. The funny thing: all these people cry slaughter if a ref shits on their team and affects a match' outcome. Not really what I am saying. Ref made a mistake. It's bad that refs make mistakes. Video refereeing cannot come soon enough for me. But as long as referees make mistakes, it's part of the game. I get pissed off when my team gets shafted, and enjoy it when the fault is in favour of my team. What is being argued against is that (1) arbitration errors are "always" in favor of Barça (and thus Uefalona, corruption, blablabla), and (2) Barça somehow didn't deserve to win. The latter point is somewhat arbitrary, but in my mind, they put 6 fucking goals past PSG attempting to play Great Wall of China football. Regardless of whether Barça deserved to win, PSG deserves to lose for that horrendous showing. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On March 09 2017 20:43 sharkie wrote: What's really worrisome is how many people believe ref's mistakes are not worth discussing because PSG played abysmally. The funny thing: all these people cry slaughter if a ref shits on their team and affects a match' outcome. Just out of curiosity, what would you have said if a video assistant had judged it to be enough contact and upheld the penalty? Still shitty ref bias our outright conspiracy at that point. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On March 09 2017 20:43 sharkie wrote: What's really worrisome is how many people believe ref's mistakes are not worth discussing because PSG played abysmally. The funny thing: all these people cry slaughter if a ref shits on their team and affects a match' outcome. Well like i said, all headlines don't lead with "PSG lost a 4-0 lead to a dodgy 5th goal penalty" xD Anyway https://u.nya.is/zuityl.mp4 Is the replay again of penalty 2, which is the only one worth discussing as first one is just nailed on im sure everyone agrees. This one you can argue Suarez probably aint getting the ball if he stays on his feet anyway, there is double contact with his legs and an arm across his body. However i can see the point that all this contact is extremely light and with Suarez not getting the ball (probably) then i can't see that being a good call for a penalty. Can you argue it by the letter of the law is not a penalty? No, you can't do that either. As a footballing opinion on the game played in what it was you can argue it was very very harsh and not worthy to be given. TL;DR By letter of law its a pen 100% is double contact, leg clipped and arm across his body Experienced ref / ex player would cite not enough contact nor is Suarez getting the ball for it to be deemed a penalty Is my conclusion | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
 ) I can understand a singular, momentary slip-up, but Suarez is such a consistent cheater that I don't see much difference between him and say, a cyclist caught using EPO. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
edit: just looked at the 2nd/goalline angle again. Look at Suarez right leg, how can you consider that a dive? | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8943 Posts
On March 09 2017 21:39 Pandemona wrote: Yeah it's only a dive if there is no contact, there is contact period. By letter of law it can be called a penalty, whether you think it shouldn't or not. I think it should probably not have been called as well but it did and there is only really "minimal" contact as excuse or he isn't getting the ball for me. football is a contact sport. contact does not automatically institute a penalty. the player actually has to be fouled and there was no way suarez was legitimately fouled | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
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nojok
France15846 Posts
@Liquid Drone, yeah I wish they would start to punish unsportsmanlike conducts after the game based on video evidence. This shit is spreading on our amateur football fields too. I would also like more intransigence concerning the way players speak to the referee. A lot of this stuff is easy to do and they somehow refuse to evolve and we know the top executives of the FIFA are all corrupted, it's hard to not think about conspiracy theories. I think it was just a poor performance from the referee but I can understand why so many people are actually believign conspiracy theories. On the bright side, Silva avoided 7 1 PTSD. | ||
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
On March 09 2017 21:45 Liquid`Drone wrote: Are you serious.. I understand that fast paced contact is different from slow paced contact, but I've watched this replay literally 20 times now. Like, ok, this might not be up there with there with the Rivaldo's or the Busquets or the Inzaghi's in 'most atrocious dives ever' but it's still absolutely blatant.. I've watched it 20 times and I just can't see how you can ignore the two separate points of contact. Of course he exaggerated it and it would have been perfectly okay not to call a penalty, but there is contact, it is not a blatant dive and it's not a horrible call especially without the aid of replay. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28923 Posts
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sneirac
Germany3464 Posts
For those that missed it, last 9 minutes of BT sport broadcast: https://u.nya.is/utypdu.mp4 https://streamable.com/pvxug e: also finish call of 6-1, he seems happy: https://streamable.com/kougp | ||
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Bacillus
Finland2127 Posts
On March 09 2017 21:45 nojok wrote: A lot of this stuff is easy to do and they somehow refuse to evolve and we know the top executives of the FIFA are all corrupted, it's hard to not think about conspiracy theories. I think it was just a poor performance from the referee but I can understand why so many people are actually believign conspiracy theories. I think conspiracy theory is pretty naive way to describe things. Nobody (as far as I can tell) is claiming there's some Shakespeare writing plotlines before the season or anything. Meanwhile there's all kinds of foul play happening even in children's tournaments and by any logic it gets potentially worse as more money and prestige gets involved. It doesn't take some worldwide conspiracy to have harmful corruption that should be discussed and fought whenever possible or necessary. It's best for everyone that we can enjoy the game knowing that it's as clean and fair as humanly possible and appreciate the amazing storylines it produces. | ||
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fpivan15
United States63 Posts
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TheNewEra
Germany3128 Posts
On March 09 2017 22:22 fpivan15 wrote: Really bad referee. The second penalty wasn't... Good comeback, but this penalty ruined the joy of the win. Maybe an unpopular opinion but as much as I loath Aytekin I didn't think he did a bad job yesterday... Up until the 89th minute he did a goob job, caught most fouls, even carded dives (something we barely see nowadays anymore), in a game that was really hard to referee. And yes the 2nd penalty was only in the strictest sense of the rules a penalty but it was honestly really hard to see for him. I actually think if yesterday would have happened with other referees we might have seen more penalties for Barca, no cards for diving and 2+ PSG players sent off. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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