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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28798 Posts
January 08 2017 19:47 GMT
#2461
to me that makes a lot of sense kinda. like, you'd rather have the squad rotation players be experienced players who are kinda over the hill than for them to be the hottest prospects for the future - those players need consistent game time to develop.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2017 20:23 GMT
#2462
True good point, but he went from Juventus champion in Italy to Swansea and has rarely shone/played. 7 goals i think he has for them i guess makes sense.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2017 21:11 GMT
#2463
Just seen this online, a bit late but still funny...if you are not Brazlian

[image loading]
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
January 08 2017 21:32 GMT
#2464
On January 09 2017 06:11 Pandemona wrote:
Just seen this online, a bit late but still funny...if you are not Brazlian

[image loading]

My Brazilian friends thought it was funny too, don't worry. Brazilians take this kind of thing in stride. You're also a day late on wishing them a happy Brazil-Germany day
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2727 Posts
January 09 2017 01:02 GMT
#2465
And Sevilla surpassed Barcelona has #2 in la liga.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 09 2017 06:10 GMT
#2466
from what I read the match was full of horrible ref decisions, so poor Barca
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 09 2017 08:15 GMT
#2467
Lately this Barça reminds me of old Atlético de Madrid, always unlucky.

Two games in a row with a super close late minute post hit and also two games in a row with a blatant penalty not called. In the last one the defender actually played keeper and reached for the ball from the ground, stretching his arm as much as he could. A bit hard to believe the ref didn't see it tbh.

At least the game was good and Messi's freekick was spectacular.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2017 08:54 GMT
#2468
Yeah looks like La Liga is over doesn't it. Huge gap Real has as the top now and only 2 games of note left vs Barca and Atletico Madrid.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 09 2017 09:34 GMT
#2469
On January 09 2017 17:54 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah looks like La Liga is over doesn't it. Huge gap Real has as the top now and only 2 games of note left vs Barca and Atletico Madrid.

Depends what happens in Copa and CL. If Barça goes out vs Bilbao and Real gets tougher opponents in quarters of the CL, they'll lose a lot of energy. January/February is basically one game every 3 days if you reach the Copa finals.

8 points will be a lot for sure, but last year Barça had something like a 12 point lead? And ended up with just 1 point ahead of Real.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4156 Posts
January 09 2017 10:35 GMT
#2470
On January 09 2017 02:55 DucK- wrote:
Cahill has been quite solid since we switched to back 3. We have Zouma too. I think long term Dave has to go, because as we have seen against Spurs, his height is a weakness. But he has been playing too good though. Having such selection headaches is a blessing I guess.


Are you forgetting Dave is actually a fullback?
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28798 Posts
January 09 2017 11:40 GMT
#2471
it's not a 3 team league anymore anyway, next game is away vs sevilla, one they can most certainly drop points from. They are solid favorites but it is far from over - Barcelona still has enough quality for them to go on a crazy win streak at some point.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 09 2017 11:45 GMT
#2472
They beat Sevilla without Bale/Ronaldo/Benzema in the squad 3-0 this time last week!

That was a hugely impressive performance by Real Madrid. They have one foot in the quarter finals of the Copa del Rey after that display. Marcelo, Modric and James were the standout players for the home side, but Sampaoli will be disappointed with how his side were completely blown away this evening.


From after the game!
http://www.eurosport.com/football/copa-del-rey/2016-2017/live-real-madrid-sevilla-fc_mtc886422/live.shtml

So you would assume Real are heavy favorites to not get beat in that game which then sets up 2 more games they don't need to lose in and it's finished
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
January 09 2017 11:52 GMT
#2473
On January 09 2017 20:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
it's not a 3 team league anymore anyway, next game is away vs sevilla, one they can most certainly drop points from. They are solid favorites but it is far from over - Barcelona still has enough quality for them to go on a crazy win streak at some point.

I was about to reply that that's a cup game, but they have to play away vs. Sevilla in the Copa, and then 3 days later again in the league. Too bad they had a home game vs. Granada. An away game would have allowed them a nice week in Andalusia
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 09 2017 13:42 GMT
#2474
On January 09 2017 20:52 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 20:40 Liquid`Drone wrote:
it's not a 3 team league anymore anyway, next game is away vs sevilla, one they can most certainly drop points from. They are solid favorites but it is far from over - Barcelona still has enough quality for them to go on a crazy win streak at some point.

I was about to reply that that's a cup game, but they have to play away vs. Sevilla in the Copa, and then 3 days later again in the league. Too bad they had a home game vs. Granada. An away game would have allowed them a nice week in Andalusia

After Sevilla, Real plays at home vs Malaga. They could have been 2 weeks in Andalusia.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 09 2017 14:16 GMT
#2475
- 16 groups
- Each group has 3 teams
- The top two teams from each group progress
- Group matches will never end in a draw. Penalties will be used, if necessary, to ensure each match has a winner and a loser.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/286971e582e64ea89f25620ffe47f10c/guide-fifas-options-expanding-2026-world-cup

I was opposed to expanding world cup until I read about the penalty idea, because of England alone this will be fantastic entertainment.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18636 Posts
January 09 2017 14:36 GMT
#2476
Still its just more matches for the big countries... Ilove the world cup but one whole month of it is enough. I don't need more.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-09 14:58:41
January 09 2017 14:56 GMT
#2477
On January 09 2017 23:36 sharkie wrote:
Still its just more matches for the big countries... Ilove the world cup but one whole month of it is enough. I don't need more.

It's not more matches at all.

16 groups of 3 is 2 matches each in the group phase, and then a Ro32 knockout phase. So to reach the Ro16, that's 3 matches.

Currently, it's 8 groups of 4, so 3 matches to reach the Ro16.

The main difference is the winner required rule, which means more extra time and penalties.

However, the main problem I see is that most of these extra matches are going to be things like Germany - Togo. The world cup group phase has enough inconsequential matches as it is. Adding to that aspect of the world cup does absolutely nothing. Just ignore it and tune in at the Ro32. The extended Euro fell flat as well, and it was simply better when it was shorter.

Perhaps an argument can be made that inconsequential teams will get money and publicity which will provide a boost to football in those countries that cannot be gotten in any other way, but that argument hasn't improved African countries' football so far. They have been interesting flavour opponents in the groups and early knockout rounds, but not once a serious competitor, despite all the exposition.

Simply adding more Asian, African and Polynesian teams is not going to improve the quality of the world cup, and by keeping the quantity of games per team the same, it just means more curbstomps, or even worse, ultra defensive lineups trying to drag it to penalties, in comparison to interesting matches.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28798 Posts
January 09 2017 15:01 GMT
#2478
I think for people from the countries that consistently make world cups, this change sucks. for people from countries that almost never make it, but where if you do, the country enters a 3 week orgy, it's pretty awesome.
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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18292 Posts
January 09 2017 15:54 GMT
#2479
Doubt it's a 3-week orgy if Fiji now makes it to the World Cup, gets thoroughly destroyed by Germany, and eeks out 2-0 loss to Cameroon before going home again (as an example of one of the teams most likely to now make it to world cups, because Oceania does not have a very impressive competition). I guess one extra team from South America is always good, and two or so more from Europe is okay, but Asia and Oceania do not have a lot to offer beyond the teams that already make it in.

An added downside is that the hosting costs are expected to go up by over 10%, and hosting costs for the world cup are already balooning. When NL-BE put in the bid for 2022, there was actually a lot of resistance within the Netherlands about the costs, and that it was generally not worth it. And that's two countries with most of the infrastructure already in place. Bids like the South Africa and Brazil world cup show how expensive the event is for countries that do not already have the infrastructure in place... and the social aspects of hosting the cup in third world countries was also highlighted. Although not as much as Qatar is showing with their slave labor to build the stadiums.

sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 09 2017 16:10 GMT
#2480
On January 10 2017 00:54 Acrofales wrote:
Doubt it's a 3-week orgy if Fiji now makes it to the World Cup, gets thoroughly destroyed by Germany, and eeks out 2-0 loss to Cameroon before going home again (as an example of one of the teams most likely to now make it to world cups, because Oceania does not have a very impressive competition). I guess one extra team from South America is always good, and two or so more from Europe is okay, but Asia and Oceania do not have a lot to offer beyond the teams that already make it in.

An added downside is that the hosting costs are expected to go up by over 10%, and hosting costs for the world cup are already balooning. When NL-BE put in the bid for 2022, there was actually a lot of resistance within the Netherlands about the costs, and that it was generally not worth it. And that's two countries with most of the infrastructure already in place. Bids like the South Africa and Brazil world cup show how expensive the event is for countries that do not already have the infrastructure in place... and the social aspects of hosting the cup in third world countries was also highlighted. Although not as much as Qatar is showing with their slave labor to build the stadiums.

That will just mean well get to enjoy more dictators and presidents that aspire to become dictators will get to use the world cup as a marketing opportunity. Maybe we will get a rotation of winter and summer world cups? Lots of middle eastern oil countries to go to.
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