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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 21:47:44
January 04 2017 21:47 GMT
#2441
Chelsea bleed! How Pedro is still on the pitch is surprising to me, I don't think he made a single good forward pass.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 23:10:33
January 04 2017 21:56 GMT
#2442
On January 05 2017 05:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes i can also see that he has not "complained once about his squad"


You can because thats not him complaining, thats second hand info. If you can find me somewhere he is quoted thats a different story. That guy is clearly trying to lower expectations and doing a terrible job of it.

None of the reasons he is giving in the rest of the interview (which I looked up) are true. Aside from the fact that Man City does not have a history and as big a winning culture as the rest of the teams, there is no truth to any of it and again it would be asinine of Guardiola to say so himself.

Try again.

edit: also you know what I will concede the not once part even if he hasnt done it, trying to prove your positive by proving my comment as a negative doesnt really work anyway.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 04 2017 21:58 GMT
#2443
On January 05 2017 06:47 Ysellian wrote:
Chelsea bleed! How Pedro is still on the pitch is surprising to me, I don't think he made a single good forward pass.

Yeah him and Matic were god awful. Hazard at BEST was a 7/10 - Costa the same. Many players not turning up at all which is very sad. Pretty sure Chelsea taking drawing to Stoke etc and beat Spurs and lacked fight. Luiz another had his worst game since he returned.
Matic starts over Cesc so we can be more defensive and he just idled by on so many attacks down the left, letting Eriksen cross for free T_T
Eurgh, horrible way to lose tonight as we played in 3rd gear for it all.
If he started Cesc instead of Matic we might have had way more joy and gone from there.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-04 22:15:57
January 04 2017 22:12 GMT
#2444
Well it's bound to happen eventually. I guess it's a good thing in the end because they can now evaluate where they got it wrong. Though you gotta give it to Poch and the Spurs boys, even during the previous meeting, Tot was in my opinion the better team but Chelsea was too clinical with their counter attacks.

edit: i just watched the highlights, the two Alli's goals were very similar in terms of setup. Was Chelsea's defense that poor against long ball in general or just this match?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 05 2017 00:58 GMT
#2445
Fuuuuuuuuuuu. Woke up to the result.

Both goals alli was found between Dave and moses. Not sure if genius game plan by poch or just lapse in concentration.

Unhappy that batman only came on at 85 min.
WillyWanker
Profile Joined December 2011
France1915 Posts
January 05 2017 01:43 GMT
#2446
Madrid destroyed Sevilla... without their attacking trio Zidane's doing a great job...
2016 was a disaster and I'm drinking far too much, please don't have a repeat CL title, I think I'd quit football for a while. They're already going to beat Barça's record next weekend and this gives them a relaxed 2nd leg to be ready for the quarters vs Barça/Bilbao.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 03:02:01
January 05 2017 02:59 GMT
#2447
On January 05 2017 06:56 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 05:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes i can also see that he has not "complained once about his squad"


You can because thats not him complaining, thats second hand info. If you can find me somewhere he is quoted thats a different story. That guy is clearly trying to lower expectations and doing a terrible job of it.

None of the reasons he is giving in the rest of the interview (which I looked up) are true. Aside from the fact that Man City does not have a history and as big a winning culture as the rest of the teams, there is no truth to any of it and again it would be asinine of Guardiola to say so himself.

Try again.

edit: also you know what I will concede the not once part even if he hasnt done it, trying to prove your positive by proving my comment as a negative doesnt really work anyway.


look bruh, i read an article of him complaining about his squad and I merely made a comment about it, didn't say it was public, didn't say it was true or false? It was honestly a harmless post. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't about how the source is lying, you should probably stop overreacting to people trying to shoot the shit on a fucking gaming forum.

try not being an annoying prick?

oh and the article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-news-latest-villarreal-lu-martin-a7507701.html

tell me how I should feel about something I've read
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 05:16:46
January 05 2017 04:51 GMT
#2448
On January 05 2017 11:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 06:56 Rebs wrote:
On January 05 2017 05:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes i can also see that he has not "complained once about his squad"


You can because thats not him complaining, thats second hand info. If you can find me somewhere he is quoted thats a different story. That guy is clearly trying to lower expectations and doing a terrible job of it.

None of the reasons he is giving in the rest of the interview (which I looked up) are true. Aside from the fact that Man City does not have a history and as big a winning culture as the rest of the teams, there is no truth to any of it and again it would be asinine of Guardiola to say so himself.

Try again.

edit: also you know what I will concede the not once part even if he hasnt done it, trying to prove your positive by proving my comment as a negative doesnt really work anyway.


look bruh, i read an article of him complaining about his squad and I merely made a comment about it, didn't say it was public, didn't say it was true or false? It was honestly a harmless post. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't about how the source is lying, you should probably stop overreacting to people trying to shoot the shit on a fucking gaming forum.

try not being an annoying prick?

oh and the article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-news-latest-villarreal-lu-martin-a7507701.html

tell me how I should feel about something I've read


Hey man dont get mad at me.

I feel like you shouldnt say Guardiola is complaining. Because you cannot verify this, which makes it a almost as ambiguous as a lie. Lieing is bad. Hiding behind "shooting the shit" is also not a good excuse for lying. I would humbly suggest that you not lie and I will not be an annoying prick.

"Man I dont get why Zulu insults people, its not like the guy calling him out was wrong."

I read about it it in the notepad I just opened.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also lol.. Ive read the articles related to that the interview that the "confidante" had. That article is totally right. Which is why Guardiola has never said those things publicly. He is taking that comment at face value though. twenty first century Journalism 101 ftw.

Maybe he did say it to someone personally, maybe he didnt, but you shouldnt just throw out things without caveats when you dont know they are true. Again lying is bad. Defending it is worse.

anddd aaaaagain please dont be mad at me for your own lazy post. After all "im just shooting the shit to, but responsibly" I guess its sorta like drinking eh ?

No good has ever come from public displays of stupidity on the internet, even if it is "harmless." I guess this will be a good lesson.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll admit at some point I was just trying to wind you up, but all you had to be like was.. "you know what, I guess he didnt say that. But I dont get why he would feel that way if he does and that article is true." but I guess thats hard.



sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18772 Posts
January 05 2017 05:48 GMT
#2449
On January 05 2017 10:43 WillyWanker wrote:
Madrid destroyed Sevilla... without their attacking trio Zidane's doing a great job...
2016 was a disaster and I'm drinking far too much, please don't have a repeat CL title, I think I'd quit football for a while. They're already going to beat Barça's record next weekend and this gives them a relaxed 2nd leg to be ready for the quarters vs Barça/Bilbao.


Wow this result is crazy as fuck. How did Madrid beat Sevilla 3-0 without their best offense. O.O

Also Spurs once again beat a streaky team haha
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 08:10:37
January 05 2017 07:52 GMT
#2450
On January 05 2017 13:51 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 11:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On January 05 2017 06:56 Rebs wrote:
On January 05 2017 05:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes i can also see that he has not "complained once about his squad"


You can because thats not him complaining, thats second hand info. If you can find me somewhere he is quoted thats a different story. That guy is clearly trying to lower expectations and doing a terrible job of it.

None of the reasons he is giving in the rest of the interview (which I looked up) are true. Aside from the fact that Man City does not have a history and as big a winning culture as the rest of the teams, there is no truth to any of it and again it would be asinine of Guardiola to say so himself.

Try again.

edit: also you know what I will concede the not once part even if he hasnt done it, trying to prove your positive by proving my comment as a negative doesnt really work anyway.


look bruh, i read an article of him complaining about his squad and I merely made a comment about it, didn't say it was public, didn't say it was true or false? It was honestly a harmless post. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't about how the source is lying, you should probably stop overreacting to people trying to shoot the shit on a fucking gaming forum.

try not being an annoying prick?

oh and the article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-news-latest-villarreal-lu-martin-a7507701.html

tell me how I should feel about something I've read


Hey man dont get mad at me.

I feel like you shouldnt say Guardiola is complaining. Because you cannot verify this, which makes it a almost as ambiguous as a lie. Lieing is bad. Hiding behind "shooting the shit" is also not a good excuse for lying. I would humbly suggest that you not lie and I will not be an annoying prick.

"Man I dont get why Zulu insults people, its not like the guy calling him out was wrong."

I read about it it in the notepad I just opened.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also lol.. Ive read the articles related to that the interview that the "confidante" had. That article is totally right. Which is why Guardiola has never said those things publicly. He is taking that comment at face value though. twenty first century Journalism 101 ftw.

Maybe he did say it to someone personally, maybe he didnt, but you shouldnt just throw out things without caveats when you dont know they are true. Again lying is bad. Defending it is worse.

anddd aaaaagain please dont be mad at me for your own lazy post. After all "im just shooting the shit to, but responsibly" I guess its sorta like drinking eh ?

No good has ever come from public displays of stupidity on the internet, even if it is "harmless." I guess this will be a good lesson.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll admit at some point I was just trying to wind you up, but all you had to be like was.. "you know what, I guess he didnt say that. But I dont get why he would feel that way if he does and that article is true." but I guess thats hard.





You're seriously accusing me of lying because I didn't add "a source close to Pep Guardioloa said" to "Pep Guardiola complained?" You're way too dumb and taking this way too seriously.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 05 2017 08:43 GMT
#2451
On January 05 2017 07:12 nayumi wrote:
Well it's bound to happen eventually. I guess it's a good thing in the end because they can now evaluate where they got it wrong. Though you gotta give it to Poch and the Spurs boys, even during the previous meeting, Tot was in my opinion the better team but Chelsea was too clinical with their counter attacks.

edit: i just watched the highlights, the two Alli's goals were very similar in terms of setup. Was Chelsea's defense that poor against long ball in general or just this match?

Yeh like Duck said, he was between Dave and Moses the whole time, if that was between Ivanovic and Dave he doesn't score any of them. Moses isn't good enough defensively to sniff out that danger quick enough and Dave is a bit to small when vs a bigger player on the cover.
We played way better this game than the one at the Bridge and lost. We kept the ball way better (had more possession) had more shots and yet we still played a 6/10 so i don't have to many complaints it just annoying. Matic was so poor again we really need to either learn to play Cesc and Kante in the bigger games or find a replacement for Matic in this system as his passing is not good enough at all. Pedro at left wing back actually was interesting too haha.

Hope we can dust ourselves off quickly and go again, our next games include Leicester Liverpool and Arsenal. Ending the run with Yanited away so we have quite a few games where we need make sure we are at it.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 05 2017 09:40 GMT
#2452
Only downwards from here chelski?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-05 15:44:25
January 05 2017 14:32 GMT
#2453
On January 05 2017 16:52 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 13:51 Rebs wrote:
On January 05 2017 11:59 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On January 05 2017 06:56 Rebs wrote:
On January 05 2017 05:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
yes i can also see that he has not "complained once about his squad"


You can because thats not him complaining, thats second hand info. If you can find me somewhere he is quoted thats a different story. That guy is clearly trying to lower expectations and doing a terrible job of it.

None of the reasons he is giving in the rest of the interview (which I looked up) are true. Aside from the fact that Man City does not have a history and as big a winning culture as the rest of the teams, there is no truth to any of it and again it would be asinine of Guardiola to say so himself.

Try again.

edit: also you know what I will concede the not once part even if he hasnt done it, trying to prove your positive by proving my comment as a negative doesnt really work anyway.


look bruh, i read an article of him complaining about his squad and I merely made a comment about it, didn't say it was public, didn't say it was true or false? It was honestly a harmless post. Unless you know something the rest of the world doesn't about how the source is lying, you should probably stop overreacting to people trying to shoot the shit on a fucking gaming forum.

try not being an annoying prick?

oh and the article:

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/pep-guardiola-manchester-city-news-latest-villarreal-lu-martin-a7507701.html

tell me how I should feel about something I've read


Hey man dont get mad at me.

I feel like you shouldnt say Guardiola is complaining. Because you cannot verify this, which makes it a almost as ambiguous as a lie. Lieing is bad. Hiding behind "shooting the shit" is also not a good excuse for lying. I would humbly suggest that you not lie and I will not be an annoying prick.

"Man I dont get why Zulu insults people, its not like the guy calling him out was wrong."

I read about it it in the notepad I just opened.
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


Also lol.. Ive read the articles related to that the interview that the "confidante" had. That article is totally right. Which is why Guardiola has never said those things publicly. He is taking that comment at face value though. twenty first century Journalism 101 ftw.

Maybe he did say it to someone personally, maybe he didnt, but you shouldnt just throw out things without caveats when you dont know they are true. Again lying is bad. Defending it is worse.

anddd aaaaagain please dont be mad at me for your own lazy post. After all "im just shooting the shit to, but responsibly" I guess its sorta like drinking eh ?

No good has ever come from public displays of stupidity on the internet, even if it is "harmless." I guess this will be a good lesson.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'll admit at some point I was just trying to wind you up, but all you had to be like was.. "you know what, I guess he didnt say that. But I dont get why he would feel that way if he does and that article is true." but I guess thats hard.





You're seriously accusing me of lying because I didn't add "a source close to Pep Guardioloa said" to "Pep Guardiola complained?" You're way too dumb and taking this way too seriously.


No, im not accusing you of lying, Im explaining to you the absurdity of your jump in logic, "well since Guardiolas, confidante said, I dont get why Guardiola's complaining..."


Clearly the lesson didnt go through. Also calling me a dumb prick (if were to combine your insults) while "shooting the shit" doesnt mean you've got much going for you anymore. At this point since you are just responding to just the first part you read and makes you mad so I will let you go. Lost cause. Must be a United fan.

Speaking of United. My poor Ibras honor getting sullied by shit team. + Show Spoiler +
bait
. Ibra the Conqueror no more.

On January 05 2017 17:43 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2017 07:12 nayumi wrote:
Well it's bound to happen eventually. I guess it's a good thing in the end because they can now evaluate where they got it wrong. Though you gotta give it to Poch and the Spurs boys, even during the previous meeting, Tot was in my opinion the better team but Chelsea was too clinical with their counter attacks.

edit: i just watched the highlights, the two Alli's goals were very similar in terms of setup. Was Chelsea's defense that poor against long ball in general or just this match?

Yeh like Duck said, he was between Dave and Moses the whole time, if that was between Ivanovic and Dave he doesn't score any of them. Moses isn't good enough defensively to sniff out that danger quick enough and Dave is a bit to small when vs a bigger player on the cover.
We played way better this game than the one at the Bridge and lost. We kept the ball way better (had more possession) had more shots and yet we still played a 6/10 so i don't have to many complaints it just annoying. Matic was so poor again we really need to either learn to play Cesc and Kante in the bigger games or find a replacement for Matic in this system as his passing is not good enough at all. Pedro at left wing back actually was interesting too haha.

Hope we can dust ourselves off quickly and go again, our next games include Leicester Liverpool and Arsenal. Ending the run with Yanited away so we have quite a few games where we need make sure we are at it.


I reckon if you get 10 points in the next 5 game weeks it shoullllldd be enough to call GG. Other teams are dropping to many points as it is and I expect Chelsea to coast for the rest of the season for the most part. The foundation thats been setup in the squad now is to strong for them to drop many points against teams they should be easily beating.


I totally see this happening to. I think Spurs is an unfavourable matchup. Liverpool should be an interesting game, Arsenal you will beat probably for no other reason than, its round about the time they start imploding their season.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-07 12:37:36
January 07 2017 12:28 GMT
#2454
Haha yeah the classic Arsenal game.

Real Madrid vs Granada at the moment. Granada have 9 players starting who are on loan! 2-0 down after 20 minutes.
3-0 Ronaldo
4-0 Isco x2
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-08 03:08:14
January 08 2017 03:06 GMT
#2455
On January 07 2017 21:28 Pandemona wrote:
Haha yeah the classic Arsenal game.

Real Madrid vs Granada at the moment. Granada have 9 players starting who are on loan! 2-0 down after 20 minutes.
3-0 Ronaldo
4-0 Isco x2

XD Laugh if you want but those gunners somehow always managed to pull a rabbit out of their ass in the very last moment. Props to them though cause if you want to achieve something in a season, you have to be able to do shit like that.

United won comfortably yesterday against a Championship team, though I'd trade 3 out of 4 goals for Rojo's injury to be a minor one. We're running out of central back soon enough with Bailly away for CAN.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4572 Posts
January 08 2017 03:11 GMT
#2456
On January 08 2017 12:06 nayumi wrote:
XD Laugh if you want but those gunners somehow always managed to pull a rabbit out of their ass in the very last moment. Props to them though cause if you want to achieve something in a season, you have to be able to do shit like that.

United won comfortably yesterday against a Championship team, though I'd trade 3 out of 4 goals for Rojo's injury to be a minor one. We're running out of central back soon enough with Bailly away for CAN.



Jones is back and looking good. There is still hope.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 08 2017 17:38 GMT
#2457
Not sure if I like Ake being recalled, if it means him being backup to Alonso. I'd rather him have game time. We have Kenedy who can play WB, or Pedro/Dave if necessary.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2017 17:43 GMT
#2458
Yeah i think he is back to play in the back 3 if im being honest. Instead of Cahill as the left centre back, but it makes no sense to recall him if we aren't gonna play him because he is playing week in week out at Bournemouth. Quite an interesting one';

Dave - Luiz - Ake

Is how i would think he would play if he started him which is fine i guess, he is better on the ball than Cahill for sure, but he has alot more positioning and awareness to learn still.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11449 Posts
January 08 2017 17:55 GMT
#2459
Cahill has been quite solid since we switched to back 3. We have Zouma too. I think long term Dave has to go, because as we have seen against Spurs, his height is a weakness. But he has been playing too good though. Having such selection headaches is a blessing I guess.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 08 2017 19:30 GMT
#2460
Chelsea boss Antonio Conte is keen on signing Swansea striker Fernando Llorente - and Blues striker Michy Batshuayi could be going the other way, according to Sky sources.

This is quite interesting to say the least, i mean im all for Batman getting game time but a swap deal for Llorente who is 31 seems strange to me. He would be for cover of course but surely playing the younger batman is a better idea. Oh well, Conte knows best for sure
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
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