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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 03:18:53
April 28 2017 03:18 GMT
#4401
So which QB are the Browns gonna take? Webb or Kizer?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 03:19:59
April 28 2017 03:19 GMT
#4402
should use their next pick on something else. neither are worth the first rounder
take $wag Kelly in the mid rounds
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2017 03:27 GMT
#4403
Haha, Jonathan Allen apparently said that the first thing that he is gonna buy is a gaming PC that can play Total War.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 28 2017 03:34 GMT
#4404
what did the Browns give up to move back in the first for Njoku?
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2017 03:35 GMT
#4405
On April 28 2017 12:34 Shellshock wrote:
what did the Browns give up to move back in the first for Njoku?

A 4th I think.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 03:36:32
April 28 2017 03:36 GMT
#4406
Oh shit, the Niners took Reuben Foster. I hope that shoulder injury doesn't bite em in the ass.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 03:41:55
April 28 2017 03:41 GMT
#4407
On April 28 2017 12:27 xDaunt wrote:
Haha, Jonathan Allen apparently said that the first thing that he is gonna buy is a gaming PC that can play Total War.


oh yeah he was eyeing one of those super expensive ibuypower computers lol

also LOL at roger pronouncing 'froster'
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
April 28 2017 04:21 GMT
#4408
So what do you guys think of the first round?
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1086 Posts
April 28 2017 04:48 GMT
#4409
On April 28 2017 13:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So what do you guys think of the first round?

I'm a Bears fan. At least I think I still am, not so sure after today.

At the very least, they completely overpaid for Trubisky. If they traded down a little and then grabbed him because he was their guy, then I'd be okay with it. Instead, they traded up and shed a bunch of other picks to get a quarterback without a history of winning. This is like trading for Cutler all over again and I hated that trade back then despite the Chicago media slurping it up. I believe that trade cost two GMs and two coaches their jobs. Now we're putting so many of our eggs into the next "good on paper" QB who has never really accomplished anything. Meanwhile we've got a team that's depleted at almost every position and whoever we put in at QB better be really good at standing up after getting knocked down because he won't be doing much else. That sounds like a team that needed to trade down and grab a whole bunch of mid round picks to rebuild with.

I just hope they saw something in Trubisky that everyone else missed. If not, I hope we can find a competent GM sometime in the near future.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2017 05:08 GMT
#4410
On April 28 2017 13:21 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
So what do you guys think of the first round?

It's hard not to be ecstatic if you're a Niners fan. Not only did the Niners fleece the Bears, but they may have come away with two of the top five players from this draft. With proper development, the Niners likely fixed the middle of their defense for years to come.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 12:43:28
April 28 2017 10:44 GMT
#4411
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2017 14:36 GMT
#4412
Yeah, the Cowboys have been fairly on-point with their drafting. That Travis Frederick pick was particularly panned as a reach, but the dude can play.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 14:42:08
April 28 2017 14:39 GMT
#4413
In case y'all missed it, the Buckeyes tied the 2002 Miami Hurricanes for most first round DB picks this year :D
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 28 2017 15:34 GMT
#4414
On April 28 2017 23:36 xDaunt wrote:
Yeah, the Cowboys have been fairly on-point with their drafting. That Travis Frederick pick was particularly panned as a reach, but the dude can play.

Yeah I remember them getting like D/F first round grades for Frederick. This year NFL.com gave 22 teams As for the first round though and if they didn't like your pick they gave you B+. Don't want to be negative and end up being wrong!
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 28 2017 17:24 GMT
#4415
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
April 28 2017 17:58 GMT
#4416
So I'm curious what the Pats are doing with Jimmy G. The Browns supposedly made another offer last night and the Bears gave up a shat ton for what should have been a 2nd round QB. If Jimmy was in this draft he'd be the #1 QB to go, so I don't really understand what the plan is for next year?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-28 18:42:47
April 28 2017 18:38 GMT
#4417
On April 29 2017 02:58 giftdgecko wrote:
So I'm curious what the Pats are doing with Jimmy G. The Browns supposedly made another offer last night and the Bears gave up a shat ton for what should have been a 2nd round QB. If Jimmy was in this draft he'd be the #1 QB to go, so I don't really understand what the plan is for next year?

I'm wondering if there would even be a reasonable offer that could get him though. Like the redskins will trade cousins but the asking price would be an RG3 level deal for like 3 first and other stuffs. And has for decent backups there was talk that the bengals for example would ask for a basically what the bears gave up for trubisky. When was the last time a trade like that worked? Just cripples your depth usually

The only incentive for risking it on a rookie I guess is that they are relatively cheap
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
April 28 2017 18:50 GMT
#4418
On April 29 2017 02:24 JimmiC wrote:
The only f team in my book is the bears. Because they likely would have got the same guy if they traded nothing. So even if he becomes a top 10 pick its not a great pick maybe a B at best!

I doubt that the Bears would have gotten Trubisky if they didn't trade up for him. The Niners were clearly fielding offers to trade down and would have taken the best package available in all likelihood. Assessing the Bears trade really comes down to how good their evaluation of Trubisky was. If he pans out, there may be decent value in what they did. Otherwise, they're fucked.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 28 2017 19:36 GMT
#4419
We have to evaluate the Trubisky trade today, because Tom Brady can turn into Tom Brady, and no sane person could have predicted that and picked him #1 overall. So who are Trubisky's comparables? I actually haven't seen much of him, so I'm actually asking. For example, this was my thoughts (approximately) of a QB heading into last year's draft:

Jared Goff
Upside: Matt Ryan; Likelihood: 5-10%
Mid-Range: Andy Dalton; 10-20%
Low: McCown; 40-60%
Rest: Unusable; 10-45%
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9037 Posts
April 28 2017 19:41 GMT
#4420
The Cleveland Browns have released tight end Gary Barnidge, the team announced Friday.

"We'd like to thank Gary for all he has done for the Browns and the Cleveland community in his four seasons with our organization," said Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown. "He has been a fine representative of our team, and we wish him the best going forward."

Barnidge was a Pro Bowl alternate after the 2015 season but was deemed expendable after David Njoku was drafted on Thursday.


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