EPTOne thing that is a hit on Rodgers (for me) is he hasn't aged yet. And aging/adapting to your talent diminishing gracefully is actually a big factor for me. Its like, yes, Shaq was great when he could Diesel everyone, but he pretty much sucked once he could not, on the other hand Duncan was a top 3 defender with 1 leg at age 36. I value the latter a lot.
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
One thing that is a hit on Rodgers (for me) is he hasn't aged yet. And aging/adapting to your talent diminishing gracefully is actually a big factor for me. Its like, yes, Shaq was great when he could Diesel everyone, but he pretty much sucked once he could not, on the other hand Duncan was a top 3 defender with 1 leg at age 36. I value the latter a lot. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Jerubaal
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On January 18 2017 05:55 Jerubaal wrote: Aaaaand there's the obnoxious Pats fans again. So we're obnoxious because we don't like our favorite team getting railroaded with a complete and utter lack of evidence and its effect on the commissioner who pushed it through? | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On January 18 2017 05:55 Jerubaal wrote: Aaaaand there's the obnoxious Pats fans again. Explain to me the reason Goodell is skipping the AFC Championship game. I'll wait. | ||
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Jerubaal
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On January 18 2017 06:45 Jerubaal wrote: Maybe because you're obnoxious? Compelling argument. I venture to posit this opinion: Goodell doesn't want to show up because he knows the amount of boos he will face will be deafening. He will gladly abdicate his role as commissioner of the NFL to spite handing a trophy to a team that won it fair and square. Furthermore, he doesn't want to face Tom Brady and see that shiny white smile gloating in his face. (This is all dependent on the Patriots winning of course.) | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On January 18 2017 06:45 Jerubaal wrote: Maybe because you're obnoxious? Yeah we're obnoxious... | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On January 18 2017 06:14 Jaaaaasper wrote: So we're obnoxious because we don't like our favorite team getting railroaded with a complete and utter lack of evidence and its effect on the commissioner who pushed it through? Yeah man, Pats fans are obnoxious because they are still talking about this shit 16 weeks after Brady's suspension is over. Just like the haters will call them the Cheatriots until the end of time even if B&B are spotless the rest of the careers, obnoxious patriots fans will complain about deflategate until the end of time as well. You happen to be a fan of the most dominant sports franchise in the history of American sports. Don't expect many people outside of your fandom bubble to feel sorry for your victimhood. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Moving on, I read that Rivers is looking to be traded away since the team is going to LA. His final resting place? | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Regardless of what you think of deflategate, that's both amusing and sad. | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
Romo (trade) Cutler Ryan Tannehill (dolphins cut him before march or owe him big) Fitzpatrick Cousins (tagged this year) Jimmy G (trade) Tyrod Taylor (Bills don't seem to want to pay him) McGloin has said he wants the chance to start somewhere I'm still waiting for Rog-god to sell his summer home here in Maine because he "doesn't feel safe". Just show up and let a fan dump beer on you. It'll be wicked pissah Roger, I promise | ||
GTR
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
with the way the Quarterback market works idk if there will be a real way to reevaluate how teams can get effective, valuable, not overpriced QBs in this day and age. It's kinda astonishing how it seems how small the talent pool is for 32 NFL teams | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
Look at most 1v1 sports, like tennis, say, and there's a colossal difference between the #32 and even a guy in the top 20, let alone the superstars. It's not about talent pool so much as the way talent differences start to look exponential towards the top. The weird thing about QBs is that changing them seems to mess with team dynamics so much that they need to be anchored by huge salaries, even for oldmate whatshisbud the world #29. | ||
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Jerubaal
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 18 2017 10:48 Jerubaal wrote: The only mistake Goodell has made is thinking that any player or fan (or media member) should be treated as a rational human being. If he had just gone the Silver route of flattering and pandering to them and otherwise avoiding any direct responsibility, he'd get a lot less flak. Also a lot less revenue. Most fans don't like "the players" just like most voters don't like "Congress". Goodell is taking select slings and arrows from select fanbases and the media (hated more than Trump, Hillary, and Congress!) so that the majority trust the process. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Sports commissioners in general are extremely overrated. You got people like Tagliabue, Stern and maybe even Selig credited with growing the revenues of their respective sports. The increased penetration of TVs, the rise of cable TV, taxpayer-funded arenas, fantasy sports, sports gambling, sports radio and the Internet among other things created a boom for live sports. These guys had nothing to do with the technologies that made their leagues profitable. They just rode the wave. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 18 2017 13:18 andrewlt wrote: Goodell is good at pandering to as many owners as possible. Not every CEO is there to improve their business and increase profits and yada yada yada. Some are just there to hang on to the job for as long as they can. Sports commissioners in general are extremely overrated. You got people like Tagliabue, Stern and maybe even Selig credited with growing the revenues of their respective sports. The increased penetration of TVs, the rise of cable TV, taxpayer-funded arenas, fantasy sports, sports gambling, sports radio and the Internet among other things created a boom for live sports. These guys had nothing to do with the technologies that made their leagues profitable. They just rode the wave. That is correct, but we must understand the different way different sports rode the waves. The MLB had a dominant position in the 1970s and squandered it. Part of that was inevitable because of the radio-tv transition, where baseball is a perfect radio product, but a terrible TV product, and part of it is failure to understand (by executives) that the product needed to be nationalized. The NBA/NFL are a good comparison because one league decided it would embrace players (NBA) and one decided to "hate" players (NFL). What we found is that loving players only works when people also love the best players, a lot. For the NBA model to win they need to kill Lebron, and clone 5 Steph Currys (or 2 Jordans). For the NFL model to win they need nothing. That is because its much easier to be turned off by a person, than an institution. Kaepernick may have been bad for the NFL (disputed because of the Trump-Hillary effect), but even if he was, the Cowboys and Packers killed that negativity. | ||
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