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Acrofales
Spain18399 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On December 18 2015 06:49 Pandemona wrote: Ah nice insights again Rebs, great sources on the nonsense you are spilling as usual  great entertainment Sources for the managers you mean ? It's all tabloid stuff so obviously probably conjecture. Every British newspaper is reporting this sort of news. Google is your friend. I don't think you need help with search. Cancer manager for clubs meets cancer for managers club. It was a match made in heaven... or hell. I really did think he would stick around this time. I think he did too, but a tiger can't change his stripes after all. + Show Spoiler + not sure how I feel about Mou being a tiger in this analogy, he's more like a petulant pussy cat but it's the best I got. As for the comments regarding his role in the sacking. I reckon it's pretty spot on. You can blame players all you want for bad performances and alot of the time it is more on them than the manager. They are on the pitch after all. But his way of handling it suggests a more systematic failure and that's all on him. I'm betting on them to beat PSG BTW. I think it's a solid investment for the odds on most sites atm. Forgive my indulgence. I'm going to enjoy this while it lasts. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8915 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4179 Posts
On December 18 2015 02:39 Maenander wrote: Ancelotti might wait for the Bayern job. How about United give Chelsea LVG and we can have Ancelotti ? | ||
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Pantagruel
United States1427 Posts
This can been seen as well by Mourinho's behavoir in public. From his ridiculous treatment of the medical staff to his outbursts of "betrayed" and "rats" within the squad, to his (even for Mourinho's standards) outlandish feuds with the officials. Furthermore, you only have to look at his last job in Madrid where the end result was nearly identical to what has occurred here at Chelsea (also accusing his players of betrayal). The situation was simply untenable and I'm amazed Roman didn't send Mourinho packing earlier. Honestly, I think Mourinho needs to take a break for a while. If United stick with LvG for next season I could see Mourinho going there possibly, and probably doing quite well at least for a few years. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18718 Posts
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Azza
China650 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
For Chelsea's players this is Catch-22. If they fail to improve, the ship could sink with all hands, and more than a few reputations. If the season flips from here, they look like cheats. Maybe they are cheats. Daily Mail Article I have very good memories of Mourinho, he lifted our competitive level a lot. It wasn't a dark period for the club as with him we returned to where we belong. Florentino Perez In the longer term, Roman Abramovich will make another bid to land Pep Guardiola, who is set to leave Bayern Munich at the end of the season, but Manchester City are firm favourites to sign the Spaniard. Diego Simeone and Antonio Conte, respectively the coaches of Atletico Madrid and Italy, are next on the list The TImes Roman Abramovich made what sources say was "the most difficult decision of his professional life" when he finally wielded the axe after Monday's embarrassing defeat at leaders Leicester left the champs 16th. The Sun | ||
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sharkie
Austria18718 Posts
The difficult decision would have been sticking with Mourinho. He chose the easy way | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
To his credit though, I think the only other person who has ever even come close to publicly insulting his way to success is Republican Frontrunner and creator of everybody's TV show, the Apprentice. But Mou was next level, but you cant keep playing with toxic assets, it might get you a bubble but it will go down hard and Mou's stocks crashed harder than world markets in 2007. I see why Mou was so smug all the time, its quite insatiable once you get sucked into it | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On December 18 2015 17:57 Rebs wrote: Im still trying to figure out what the point of all those excerpts is. Definitely a bigger mystery than why Mou didnt get fired earlier. To his credit though, I think the only other person who has ever even come close to publicly insulting his way to success is Republican Frontrunner and creator of everybody's TV show, the Apprentice. But Mou was next level, but you cant keep playing with toxic assets, it might get you a bubble but it will go down hard and Mou's stocks crashed harder than world markets in 2007. I see why Mou was so smug all the time, its quite insatiable once you get sucked into it Quotes and Facts | ||
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malcram
2752 Posts
There's no two ways about it, Mou was a total dick ever since the Eva incident. He needs to take a break from football, and hopefully, come back a little wiser. He has done some great things for the club, and i'm fully appreciative of it. Getting a winner's mentality is important, and that was what he taught Chelsea to do in his first stint. Clearly things weren't working out anymore, i'm glad he's gone. Would I like him back at Chelsea? Maybe 5-10 years later IF he has mellowed. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
None of those are facts though. Unless your pointing out the fact that those are quotes. In which case, yes it is a fact that those are quotes. Still, even if those are quotes and facts, Both in of themselves are meaningless, so the question still remains whats the point? And the reason I ask is because you have to be in some real dire straights toward making a case if one of your main arguments is a quote from Florentino Perez. So Ill give you the benefit of doubt and not be presumptuous as to what I think your trying to do with those, ermm facts and quotes. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
As for Jose, the results were awful, but ultimately hes proved time and time again hes one of, if not the, top manager in football. Would it logically not make more sense to just trade the star players for same level skill players outside England and start again with a fresh set of faces that Jose hasn't pissed off. Good players come and go and can be bought en masse as many clubs have shown if you have the money, great managers on the other hand are pretty rare. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18718 Posts
On December 18 2015 22:25 UdderChaos wrote: Surely clubs like Madrid and Chelski have got to the point of being a poisoned chalice where the best managers will just avoid. As much as a payday is nice, anyone with self respect can't join a club that will inevitably fire you regardless of results by your second season. Would pep really want to go to Chelski with their record of managers? Even Manchester city has to be more romantic a choice at this point! It sends out a pretty strong message that the players have all the power and the responsibility is on the manager completely. As for Jose, the results were awful, but ultimately hes proved time and time again hes one of, if not the, top manager in football. Would it logically not make more sense to just trade the star players for same level skill players outside England and start again with a fresh set of faces that Jose hasn't pissed off. Good players come and go and can be bought en masse as many clubs have shown if you have the money, great managers on the other hand are pretty rare. rich people only want to get even richer | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
You know what Artosis would say: If you're ahead, get more ahead. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6303 Posts
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aseq
Netherlands4015 Posts
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