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UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
August 06 2015 08:55 GMT
#341
talksport.com

When 1-0 ahead, the Argentina captain reacted angrily to something said by Roma defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and appeared to headbutt him before reaching for the former Newcastle player’s throat.

Both players received a yellow card for the incident before Messi went on to double Barca’s lead.


Read more at http://talksport.com/football/video-lionel-messi-loses-his-cool-violent-headbutt-and-throat-grab-during-roma-friendly#wgK6ZCQrVeucrQT4.99




Messi, so nice guy, very humble
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 06 2015 09:34 GMT
#342
When Messi does that in a friendly... its just being a tad bit over-competitive, not even a red card
If Costa did that...
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 06 2015 09:48 GMT
#343
On August 06 2015 18:34 zeo wrote:
When Messi does that in a friendly... its just being a tad bit over-competitive, not even a red card
If Costa did that...

... he would get a much harsher punishment because he isn't Messi, not because he has done it 15 times before.
Interestingly the vast majority of the reaction I have seen is people asking why this wasn't punished, that includes the Barca/Messi fans. Last time Costa did something like this Chelsea fans were falling over themselves rushing to his defense.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
August 06 2015 09:49 GMT
#344
Costa does that stuff each match, you can't expect people to love Costa.
danzii
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany75 Posts
August 06 2015 09:55 GMT
#345
he probably told messi that he doesn't love his country or something xd
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
August 06 2015 10:58 GMT
#346
Well it's very un-Messi like to act like that. Unfortunately we don't know what the other guy told him. If it was wildly offensive one can expect Messi to lash out.

Blown out of proportion though, it's pretty harmless.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 11:12:01
August 06 2015 11:03 GMT
#347
Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.

Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.

Laughing edit: BAhahahaha zeo u crack me up :'D
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 06 2015 11:09 GMT
#348
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote:
Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.

Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.

Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.

This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
August 06 2015 11:18 GMT
#349
On August 06 2015 20:09 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote:
Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.

Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.

Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.

This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.

ITS NOT A FOUL IF HE'S STILL BREATHING! - Pepe
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 06 2015 11:54 GMT
#350
On August 06 2015 20:09 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote:
Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.

Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.

Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.

This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.

Apologies first for accusing you of bias, didn't expect Twisted and Salteador Neo to immediately crap on my point.

However, if violent conduct is worse in friendlies, then provocation is also much worse than in competitive games and thus retaliating would be even more "justified".
So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
August 06 2015 12:30 GMT
#351
On August 06 2015 20:54 sneirac wrote:
So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?

Because its not supposed to be a serious match. Passions should not be running high, for the big teams its a chance to get a feel for playing 90 minute matches against good opponents and there are drastically less yellow-card-tier fouls for a reason. Yeah if you are some kid trying to show what you've got in front of your manager ok, but Messi?

Look, I've been slide tackled (on concrete) before. It has been infinitely more infuriating when it happened in muck-about matches than in tournaments. Imagine someone getting headbutted or choked on the pitch during a charity match, its just stupid.
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 13:50:10
August 06 2015 13:43 GMT
#352
On this day 12 years ago(back when he still ran back to defend).... also fun fact you will hear "Rui Jorge" a lot in this video he was our LD and is now the u21 national team manager :p
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18463 Posts
August 06 2015 13:53 GMT
#353
On August 06 2015 21:30 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 20:54 sneirac wrote:
So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?

Because its not supposed to be a serious match. Passions should not be running high, for the big teams its a chance to get a feel for playing 90 minute matches against good opponents and there are drastically less yellow-card-tier fouls for a reason. Yeah if you are some kid trying to show what you've got in front of your manager ok, but Messi?

Look, I've been slide tackled (on concrete) before. It has been infinitely more infuriating when it happened in muck-about matches than in tournaments. Imagine someone getting headbutted or choked on the pitch during a charity match, its just stupid.

So, lets assume there was something leading up to this event and it didn't happen in a vacuum. In fact, the article you cite states that Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa said something to Messi, probably something quite insulting. Why is it okay to say something so insulting in a friendly match, but when Messi then reacts, it's horrific because it's a friendly match?

I can equally easily argue that the other way round: because it's a friendly match, Messi is expecting his opponents to play nice, and it is thus twice as shocking to him when he is insulted out of the blue by Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. This causes a greater reaction than if he were expecting it, in a match where things are actually on the line.

Neither of these arguments is particularly convincing to me. You can argue that Messi's actions should have been punished by a red card, but that argument should not depend on it being a friendly match or not.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 13:55:47
August 06 2015 13:54 GMT
#354
Did television really look that bad 12 years ago? o.O

edit: Also who says both players shouldn't be punished?
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18463 Posts
August 06 2015 13:56 GMT
#355
On August 06 2015 22:54 zeo wrote:
Did television really look that bad 12 years ago? o.O

No, but apparently youtube videos made by Asians after screengrabbing from their TV apparently did
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
August 06 2015 14:17 GMT
#356
On August 06 2015 22:56 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 22:54 zeo wrote:
Did television really look that bad 12 years ago? o.O

No, but apparently youtube videos made by Asians after screengrabbing from their TV apparently did


ahah
Snipers Promod & Micro Arena Creator in SC2 Arcade - Portuguese Community Admin for SC2, HotS and Overwatch - Ex-Portugal SC2 Team Manager, Ex- Copenhagen Wolves and Grow uP Gaming Manager in SC2. Just Playing games now!
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom10010 Posts
August 06 2015 14:27 GMT
#357
On August 06 2015 22:43 GizmoPT wrote:
On this day 12 years ago(back when he still ran back to defend).... also fun fact you will hear "Rui Jorge" a lot in this video he was our LD and is now the u21 national team manager :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCeGoaaTNsg


Was putting spaghetti in your hair really fashionable 12 years ago? I missed that.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
August 06 2015 15:15 GMT
#358
On August 06 2015 18:55 danzii wrote:
he probably told messi that he doesn't love his country or something xd

Probably said "so how did the Copa America go? xD"
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
August 06 2015 15:57 GMT
#359
Champions League play-off round
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possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28908 Posts
August 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#360
wait the champions can only face other champions in qualification games too? I guess there's one or two exceptions, but to me I immediately think the bottom 10 teams are all better than the top 10? I mean yeah I guess basel is better than rapid wien and prolly than club brugge also, but aside from that.

Really positive towards this though - means that Rosenborg's path next season will be much less hard than I thought it was going to be!!
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