When 1-0 ahead, the Argentina captain reacted angrily to something said by Roma defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and appeared to headbutt him before reaching for the former Newcastle player’s throat.
Both players received a yellow card for the incident before Messi went on to double Barca’s lead.
On August 06 2015 18:34 zeo wrote: When Messi does that in a friendly... its just being a tad bit over-competitive, not even a red card If Costa did that...
... he would get a much harsher punishment because he isn't Messi, not because he has done it 15 times before. Interestingly the vast majority of the reaction I have seen is people asking why this wasn't punished, that includes the Barca/Messi fans. Last time Costa did something like this Chelsea fans were falling over themselves rushing to his defense.
Well it's very un-Messi like to act like that. Unfortunately we don't know what the other guy told him. If it was wildly offensive one can expect Messi to lash out.
Blown out of proportion though, it's pretty harmless.
Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.
Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote: Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.
Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.
Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.
This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote: Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.
Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.
Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.
This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.
On August 06 2015 20:03 Salteador Neo wrote: Lmao you gotta be kidding to focus on that from that great game.
Obviously not a red card because it's a friendly. Move on. Rocketic sick goal and the trident doing much sweet work together, maybe the best attacking trio of all time tbh.
Violent conduct in friendly matches is imo a much worse worse offence than the same thing in a competitive match. Injuring somebody in a friendly is unacceptable. If Suarez could get a months long ban for violent conduct in a match where violent conduct is explainable than surely Messi should get at least some kind of punishment.
This should not be swept under a fanboi rug. At least 10 pages of this thread should be dedicated to discussing this and it should be brought up any time any player gets a red card this season.
Apologies first for accusing you of bias, didn't expect Twisted and Salteador Neo to immediately crap on my point.
However, if violent conduct is worse in friendlies, then provocation is also much worse than in competitive games and thus retaliating would be even more "justified". So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?
On August 06 2015 20:54 sneirac wrote: So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?
Because its not supposed to be a serious match. Passions should not be running high, for the big teams its a chance to get a feel for playing 90 minute matches against good opponents and there are drastically less yellow-card-tier fouls for a reason. Yeah if you are some kid trying to show what you've got in front of your manager ok, but Messi?
Look, I've been slide tackled (on concrete) before. It has been infinitely more infuriating when it happened in muck-about matches than in tournaments. Imagine someone getting headbutted or choked on the pitch during a charity match, its just stupid.
On this day 12 years ago(back when he still ran back to defend).... also fun fact you will hear "Rui Jorge" a lot in this video he was our LD and is now the u21 national team manager :p
On August 06 2015 20:54 sneirac wrote: So why should this be viewed harsher than any other regular occurring violent conduct?
Because its not supposed to be a serious match. Passions should not be running high, for the big teams its a chance to get a feel for playing 90 minute matches against good opponents and there are drastically less yellow-card-tier fouls for a reason. Yeah if you are some kid trying to show what you've got in front of your manager ok, but Messi?
Look, I've been slide tackled (on concrete) before. It has been infinitely more infuriating when it happened in muck-about matches than in tournaments. Imagine someone getting headbutted or choked on the pitch during a charity match, its just stupid.
So, lets assume there was something leading up to this event and it didn't happen in a vacuum. In fact, the article you cite states that Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa said something to Messi, probably something quite insulting. Why is it okay to say something so insulting in a friendly match, but when Messi then reacts, it's horrific because it's a friendly match?
I can equally easily argue that the other way round: because it's a friendly match, Messi is expecting his opponents to play nice, and it is thus twice as shocking to him when he is insulted out of the blue by Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa. This causes a greater reaction than if he were expecting it, in a match where things are actually on the line.
Neither of these arguments is particularly convincing to me. You can argue that Messi's actions should have been punished by a red card, but that argument should not depend on it being a friendly match or not.
On August 06 2015 22:43 GizmoPT wrote: On this day 12 years ago(back when he still ran back to defend).... also fun fact you will hear "Rui Jorge" a lot in this video he was our LD and is now the u21 national team manager :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCeGoaaTNsg
Was putting spaghetti in your hair really fashionable 12 years ago? I missed that.
wait the champions can only face other champions in qualification games too? I guess there's one or two exceptions, but to me I immediately think the bottom 10 teams are all better than the top 10? I mean yeah I guess basel is better than rapid wien and prolly than club brugge also, but aside from that.
Really positive towards this though - means that Rosenborg's path next season will be much less hard than I thought it was going to be!!
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