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smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
September 28 2015 11:37 GMT
#2601
On September 28 2015 17:04 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 15:50 smr wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:27 Dingodile wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D

There never was a race. Bayern has a 90+pts roster. A bad season should still see them get 75+ pts. Other teams cannot reach that.

Bayern were lucky against Hoffenheim and Augsburg, they could have easily dropped points in these games. The difference is they didn't.

I think we agree : )
Bayern plays in another league. We could've thought: Well important players will be too old/gone one day and they might have a problem but in reality nothing happened.
Ribery, Robben, Kroos, Schweinsteiger... all gone or injured and Bayern at worst has a problem to win every 5th to 10th game. That's insane. Roster quality, finances, reputation are all world class.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
September 28 2015 13:18 GMT
#2602
On September 28 2015 20:37 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 17:04 Maenander wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:50 smr wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:27 Dingodile wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D

There never was a race. Bayern has a 90+pts roster. A bad season should still see them get 75+ pts. Other teams cannot reach that.

Bayern were lucky against Hoffenheim and Augsburg, they could have easily dropped points in these games. The difference is they didn't.

I think we agree : )
Bayern plays in another league. We could've thought: Well important players will be too old/gone one day and they might have a problem but in reality nothing happened.
Ribery, Robben, Kroos, Schweinsteiger... all gone or injured and Bayern at worst has a problem to win every 5th to 10th game. That's insane. Roster quality, finances, reputation are all world class.

yeah a shit league.
bayern still have a good team but if youre winning your league before it even starts and theres no contest, then the league is absolute dogshit lol
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 14:06:08
September 28 2015 14:03 GMT
#2603
On September 28 2015 22:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 20:37 smr wrote:
On September 28 2015 17:04 Maenander wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:50 smr wrote:
On September 28 2015 15:27 Dingodile wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D

There never was a race. Bayern has a 90+pts roster. A bad season should still see them get 75+ pts. Other teams cannot reach that.

Bayern were lucky against Hoffenheim and Augsburg, they could have easily dropped points in these games. The difference is they didn't.

I think we agree : )
Bayern plays in another league. We could've thought: Well important players will be too old/gone one day and they might have a problem but in reality nothing happened.
Ribery, Robben, Kroos, Schweinsteiger... all gone or injured and Bayern at worst has a problem to win every 5th to 10th game. That's insane. Roster quality, finances, reputation are all world class.

yeah a shit league.
bayern still have a good team but if youre winning your league before it even starts and theres no contest, then the league is absolute dogshit lol


Every major European league is like this. To pretend that the other leagues haven't had years where their title was decided early is willful ignorance. Hell, England is having it's first real title race in quite a while and it's not like Spain's league is ever interesting.

Bayern were lucky against Hoffenheim and Augsburg, they could have easily dropped points in these games. The difference is they didn't.


Yea, that's the problem. BVB might be able to make up some ground in the two games they face Bayern (although it's not likely), but Bayern has the extra depth and the extra quality where they won't drop points as often as BVB does, if at all. They're just that good.

BVB could theoretically go undefeated for the season and I doubt they'd win the title. They'll end up with too many draws due to a bad defense.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 28 2015 14:12 GMT
#2604
Well that's a bit wrong
England has the same 3 fighting for the title and Spain has the same 2, Bundesliga has Bayern and the rest. Using the basis of this season, last season or the season before that and it backs up said statement. You could even add in random Arsenal and Liverpool title "challenges" as well to the list, but its normally 2x manchester clubs and chelsea in England. Spain Real vs Barca and Germany is Bayern by how many.
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
September 28 2015 14:28 GMT
#2605
Germany is the only big league where it's legitimately a 1 horse race before the league starts. And it has only been that way for the past three years - dortmund won with 8 points in 2011-12. And nothing is permanent.

over the past decade, in terms of title challenging teams, Spain has had two with an occasional third, England three with an occasional fourth. Those are actually very different from 1 virtually predetermined winner.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18768 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 15:59:18
September 28 2015 15:58 GMT
#2606
Spain is tons more exciting than Bundesliga.
Since Bayern bought Götze and Lewa they officially killed BuLi, good job Bayern

What Klopp did with BVB should have been impossible if you think about it. Defeating Bayern two seasons in a row wth
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 17:37:01
September 28 2015 17:34 GMT
#2607
On September 29 2015 00:58 sharkie wrote:
Spain is tons more exciting than Bundesliga.
Since Bayern bought Götze and Lewa they officially killed BuLi, good job Bayern

What Klopp did with BVB should have been impossible if you think about it. Defeating Bayern two seasons in a row wth

Even Leverkusen were ahead of Bayern 2010/11 :D

And Bayern have become a lot stronger during the last decade, which can be seen in their CL results. The Bayern of 2002-2010 would be no match for current Dortmund.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 28 2015 17:43 GMT
#2608
But that didn't matter due to Dortmund going bankrupt
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
September 28 2015 18:22 GMT
#2609
Villarreal is first in Spain xDDDD
Espers
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom606 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 18:55:27
September 28 2015 18:52 GMT
#2610
Bayern/Barca/Real have established themselves as massive brands to the extent they'll never drop off for a more than a couple years imo. When Barcelona started to show some cracks they bought Neymar and then Suarez and bam, back on top. Football's so top heavy now..
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
September 28 2015 18:55 GMT
#2611
8 wins in 8 matches for my team

only 7 matchesl left, 5 points distance with the second (next week its the match against them)
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 28 2015 20:02 GMT
#2612
On September 29 2015 03:52 Espers wrote:
Bayern/Barca/Real have established themselves as massive brands to the extent they'll never drop off for a more than a couple years imo. When Barcelona started to show some cracks they bought Neymar and then Suarez and bam, back on top. Football's so top heavy now..


It's always been this way. Just look at the history of most leagues; there is a dominant team(s) that has won the majority of championships, with their run being periodically broken up by random other teams. The gap between the big clubs and the rest has just gotten bigger in the past 7-8 years.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 21:35:32
September 28 2015 21:35 GMT
#2613
On September 29 2015 05:02 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 03:52 Espers wrote:
Bayern/Barca/Real have established themselves as massive brands to the extent they'll never drop off for a more than a couple years imo. When Barcelona started to show some cracks they bought Neymar and then Suarez and bam, back on top. Football's so top heavy now..


It's always been this way. Just look at the history of most leagues; there is a dominant team(s) that has won the majority of championships, with their run being periodically broken up by random other teams. The gap between the big clubs and the rest has just gotten bigger in the past 7-8 years.


Yep, coz TV and Asia (and to some degree recently America) the teams best positioned to profit off the game exploding in high population areas with lots of money to spend are the ones you are seeing pulling away. Its the same as an industry really if you think about it.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-28 22:42:57
September 28 2015 22:41 GMT
#2614
In Spain It was the same before Cruyff revolution. In 1990 the team had 10 leagues only (Madrid had 25). Since 1990 Cruyff the difference is reduced to 32 - 23. Maybe without Cruyff in barsa history, Atlético would had more leagues than Barcelona xD
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 29 2015 07:45 GMT
#2615
Mascherano joined Neymar and Messi last night on the tax fraud list....getting quite silly now!
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 08:19:55
September 29 2015 08:17 GMT
#2616
On September 29 2015 16:45 Pandemona wrote:
Mascherano joined Neymar and Messi last night on the tax fraud list....getting quite silly now!


Yeah theyve been planning that for a while, he paid all his backtaxes + interest similar to Messi, but they were going to charge him anyway so it was kinda expected. From what I hear the capital will do pretty much everything can to fuck with Catalonia with all the independence talk heating up. It seems rather counter intuitive.

These cases with Messi Neymar and even Masch now havent been the first instances of this happening, lots of players end up owing taxes they should have paid but they just pay it later + a fine. I know companies that have had to do that aswell when the IRS audits them in the US. Pushing it to legal proceedings is normally strong arming to get more money.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-29 08:36:43
September 29 2015 08:35 GMT
#2617
Yeh Barca pretty fucked soon. Spain saying they will not get a referendum and they will never leave Spain. They had their own referendum and they voted big and have majority seats in the parliament. Spain says will appeal to people to stop them going independent.

Makes me laugh how these cities think they can go independent that easily, making their own army etcetc. Where is the money going to come from to do this? xD

http://news.sky.com/story/1559884/separatists-win-majority-in-catalan-elections

But the central government in Madrid has vowed to block any declaration in court because it would breach the Spanish constitution.

Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy has opposed attempts to hold a referendum on secession and has labelled the breakaway plan "a nonsense".

One compromise could be the implementation of a more favourable tax regime and laws that better protect language and culture, which could calm Catalan discontent.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 29 2015 08:51 GMT
#2618
Pande your post is a complete brainfart and Catalonia is not a city lol, should stick to talking about footie instead of stuff you have no idea about

Anyway footie thread is not the right one to talk about politics.
Revolutionist fan
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 29 2015 08:58 GMT
#2619
Yeah its an area i see i thought was just a city limit of an area. Makes it even funnier now how it is.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
September 29 2015 11:19 GMT
#2620
On September 29 2015 17:58 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah its an area i see i thought was just a city limit of an area. Makes it even funnier now how it is.


You're just showing off your ignorance. Catalonia is one of the wealthiest region in Spain and is actually in a position where it doesn't profit at all from the central government.
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