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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 16:05:04
September 27 2015 13:33 GMT
#2581
Absolutely brilliant offside call in Boro vs Leeds by the linesman. A slight deflection off a Leeds player and Antenucci is barely offside.

Boro went on to win 3-0 after some gifts from the Leeds defence.

Decent game between Watford and Palace. Jurado almost made it 1-0 with a fantastic free-kick.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
September 27 2015 16:17 GMT
#2582
Heller 1-0 v bvb streamable.com
Sad i cant here pande gloat
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
September 27 2015 16:48 GMT
#2583
OFFFFFFFFT
That finish, beautiful.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
September 27 2015 16:56 GMT
#2584
1-1 for bvb. Bout fucking time
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 27 2015 17:01 GMT
#2585
AUBAMEYANG! 2-1 BVB!
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#2586
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 27 2015 17:33 GMT
#2587
So BVB defense still sucks, hopefully Tuchel stops shit going downhill as it is now, they still rely on too much luck and lack the punch vs defensive opponents as we have seen vs Darmstadt, Krasnodar and Wolfsberger. Counters are too effective and are not dealt with in a good way. And even though we scored a shitton this season already, the scoring is still aweful. Darmstadt needs 3 chances for 2 goals, if Dortmund had that converion rate then we would have scored 100 already.

Oh and i hope Bayern won't kick our asses to badly. 4 points behind now, about to be 7 next week and we know who is winning this season
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 17:38:07
September 27 2015 17:36 GMT
#2588
On September 28 2015 02:33 BlackCompany wrote:
So BVB defense still sucks, hopefully Tuchel stops shit going downhill as it is now, they still rely on too much luck and lack the punch vs defensive opponents as we have seen vs Darmstadt, Krasnodar and Wolfsberger. Counters are too effective and are not dealt with in a good way. And even though we scored a shitton this season already, the scoring is still aweful. Darmstadt needs 3 chances for 2 goals, if Dortmund had that converion rate then we would have scored 100 already.

Oh and i hope Bayern won't kick our asses to badly. 4 points behind now, about to be 7 next week and we know who is winning this season


Our offense is fine. Any team in our position possession-wise will waste chances. There is a clear offensive strategy and efficiency that we lacked last year. Ginter is looking fantastic at RB and Mhki/Aubameyang/Reus/Kagawa are all doing very well.

The fault with the team lies 100% with the defense. It's still just awful and at this point, particularly in set pieces/corners, and I don't see Bürki as a meaningful upgrade from Weidenfeller or Langerak.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 17:46:16
September 27 2015 17:41 GMT
#2589
On September 28 2015 02:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 02:33 BlackCompany wrote:
So BVB defense still sucks, hopefully Tuchel stops shit going downhill as it is now, they still rely on too much luck and lack the punch vs defensive opponents as we have seen vs Darmstadt, Krasnodar and Wolfsberger. Counters are too effective and are not dealt with in a good way. And even though we scored a shitton this season already, the scoring is still aweful. Darmstadt needs 3 chances for 2 goals, if Dortmund had that converion rate then we would have scored 100 already.

Oh and i hope Bayern won't kick our asses to badly. 4 points behind now, about to be 7 next week and we know who is winning this season


Our offense is fine. Any team in our position possession-wise will waste chances.

The fault with the team lies 100% with the defense. It's still just awful and at this point I don't see Bürki as a meaningful upgrade from Weidenfeller or Langerak.

Of course they waste some but i still think its not that good. Of course its not bad but a better conversion rate might help balance the bad defense.
I agree on Bürki, he is about the same level. He looked like a god last year because he had so many opportunities to do show good deflections. But this year he has way less shots to clear and he isnt even doing that convincingly (he deflects the ball right to the middle of the box wayyyyyy to often). I think BVB defense has huge trouble with fast strikers, which is perfect since its only Douglas Costa coming next week

edit: i know all this is whining by me over stupid stuff really. We have won 11 of 13 games and are still unbeaten. We score a shitton and our game has improved a lot and looks deadly in the offensive. Tuchel has done a grear job. But if it all looks pretty good then weak points like the defense are even more annoying and loosing points vs teams that only build a wall around their box and then play kick and rush is so sad
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
September 27 2015 17:45 GMT
#2590
On September 28 2015 02:41 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 02:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:33 BlackCompany wrote:
So BVB defense still sucks, hopefully Tuchel stops shit going downhill as it is now, they still rely on too much luck and lack the punch vs defensive opponents as we have seen vs Darmstadt, Krasnodar and Wolfsberger. Counters are too effective and are not dealt with in a good way. And even though we scored a shitton this season already, the scoring is still aweful. Darmstadt needs 3 chances for 2 goals, if Dortmund had that converion rate then we would have scored 100 already.

Oh and i hope Bayern won't kick our asses to badly. 4 points behind now, about to be 7 next week and we know who is winning this season


Our offense is fine. Any team in our position possession-wise will waste chances.

The fault with the team lies 100% with the defense. It's still just awful and at this point I don't see Bürki as a meaningful upgrade from Weidenfeller or Langerak.

Of course they waste some but i still think its not that good. Of course its not bad but a better conversion rate might help balance the bad defense.
I agree on Bürki, he is about the same level. He looked like a god last year because he had so many opportunities to do show good deflections. But this year he has way less shots to clear and he isnt even doing that convincingly (he deflects the ball right to the middle of the box wayyyyyy to often). I think BVB defense has huge trouble with fast strikers, which is perfect since its only Douglas Costa coming next week


A better conversion rate would mask the woeful defense, but I'd rather they just fix the defense. It's just too slow and the positioning is consistently terrible, leaving them vulnerable to counter-attacks and crazy bounces during set-pieces.

Bürki hasn't looked bad at any point so far, but he hasn't looked good, either. He hasn't made any spectacular saves or made a different for BVB so far in the season. He's just been "there", like any competent keeper should be. I guess this is a step-up from Weidenfeller, who consistently makes clear mistakes that result in goals (including this season in the EL), and if you have a solid keeper, then you can just focus on making the defense better, but it would be nice to have a difference-making keeper behind the defense to pick up some slack.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 27 2015 17:48 GMT
#2591
On September 28 2015 02:45 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 02:41 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:36 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:33 BlackCompany wrote:
So BVB defense still sucks, hopefully Tuchel stops shit going downhill as it is now, they still rely on too much luck and lack the punch vs defensive opponents as we have seen vs Darmstadt, Krasnodar and Wolfsberger. Counters are too effective and are not dealt with in a good way. And even though we scored a shitton this season already, the scoring is still aweful. Darmstadt needs 3 chances for 2 goals, if Dortmund had that converion rate then we would have scored 100 already.

Oh and i hope Bayern won't kick our asses to badly. 4 points behind now, about to be 7 next week and we know who is winning this season


Our offense is fine. Any team in our position possession-wise will waste chances.

The fault with the team lies 100% with the defense. It's still just awful and at this point I don't see Bürki as a meaningful upgrade from Weidenfeller or Langerak.

Of course they waste some but i still think its not that good. Of course its not bad but a better conversion rate might help balance the bad defense.
I agree on Bürki, he is about the same level. He looked like a god last year because he had so many opportunities to do show good deflections. But this year he has way less shots to clear and he isnt even doing that convincingly (he deflects the ball right to the middle of the box wayyyyyy to often). I think BVB defense has huge trouble with fast strikers, which is perfect since its only Douglas Costa coming next week


A better conversion rate would mask the woeful defense, but I'd rather they just fix the defense. It's just too slow and the positioning is consistently terrible, leaving them vulnerable to counter-attacks and crazy bounces during set-pieces.

Bürki hasn't looked bad at any point so far, but he hasn't looked good, either. He hasn't made any spectacular saves or made a different for BVB so far in the season. He's just been "there", like any competent keeper should be. I guess this is a step-up from Weidenfeller, who consistently makes clear mistakes that result in goals (including this season in the EL), and if you have a solid keeper, then you can just focus on making the defense better, but it would be nice to have a difference-making keeper behind the defense to pick up some slack.

True he has not been a game winner. However even though he has done his job, i think he has to improve in deflection the ball to the side instead of the middle. If he cant catch it he often deflects it to the middle. We were lucky enough that no striker could use a chance like that yes but this can backfire hard
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 27 2015 17:56 GMT
#2592
3 points for Crystal Palace
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-27 18:59:05
September 27 2015 18:58 GMT
#2593
We don't convert enough of our chances.
Our defense can't play a solid game. They are world class or absolute bullshit.
Reus has no connection to the team and destroys the balance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Ref team ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
September 27 2015 19:05 GMT
#2594
On September 28 2015 02:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
3 points for Crystal Palace

Europe here we come!
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 27 2015 22:11 GMT
#2595
On September 28 2015 03:58 smr wrote:
We don't convert enough of our chances.
Our defense can't play a solid game. They are world class or absolute bullshit.
Reus has no connection to the team and destroys the balance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Ref team ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Well that's the problem of being a team in germany. Unless you are Bayern Munich, every ref team will make sure you either end up even or behind on split decision. Just looking at the fact that Hertha BSC Berlin had like 3 clear penalties denied while they give Bayern that one vs Augsburg is pretty funny. Also, Guardiola vs referees and other coaches vs referees
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
September 28 2015 05:04 GMT
#2596
On September 28 2015 07:11 BlackCompany wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 03:58 smr wrote:
We don't convert enough of our chances.
Our defense can't play a solid game. They are world class or absolute bullshit.
Reus has no connection to the team and destroys the balance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Ref team ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Well that's the problem of being a team in germany. Unless you are Bayern Munich, every ref team will make sure you either end up even or behind on split decision. Just looking at the fact that Hertha BSC Berlin had like 3 clear penalties denied while they give Bayern that one vs Augsburg is pretty funny. Also, Guardiola vs referees and other coaches vs referees

I couldn't see Hertha's match this week. Were they robbed again? The wrong calls in the Wolfsburg vs Berlin game made me so mad.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
September 28 2015 06:27 GMT
#2597
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
September 28 2015 06:50 GMT
#2598
On September 28 2015 15:27 Dingodile wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D

There never was a race. Bayern has a 90+pts roster. A bad season should still see them get 75+ pts. Other teams cannot reach that.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
September 28 2015 08:04 GMT
#2599
On September 28 2015 15:50 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 15:27 Dingodile wrote:
On September 28 2015 02:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Well, Bundesliga title race over.

BVB's defense is still as bad as last year's, which costs them too much.

Not if bvb wins vs bayern next playday (is in munich) :D

There never was a race. Bayern has a 90+pts roster. A bad season should still see them get 75+ pts. Other teams cannot reach that.

Bayern were lucky against Hoffenheim and Augsburg, they could have easily dropped points in these games. The difference is they didn't.
BlackCompany
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany8388 Posts
September 28 2015 08:05 GMT
#2600
On September 28 2015 14:04 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2015 07:11 BlackCompany wrote:
On September 28 2015 03:58 smr wrote:
We don't convert enough of our chances.
Our defense can't play a solid game. They are world class or absolute bullshit.
Reus has no connection to the team and destroys the balance.
+ Show Spoiler +

Ref team ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Well that's the problem of being a team in germany. Unless you are Bayern Munich, every ref team will make sure you either end up even or behind on split decision. Just looking at the fact that Hertha BSC Berlin had like 3 clear penalties denied while they give Bayern that one vs Augsburg is pretty funny. Also, Guardiola vs referees and other coaches vs referees

I couldn't see Hertha's match this week. Were they robbed again? The wrong calls in the Wolfsburg vs Berlin game made me so mad.

Nop not this time, there was 1 very close call but that was not a wrong decision.
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