The average person that's like 5'7 to 5'11 will be holding the bar one cm from the end of the knurled part, or will have their pinky on the very edge of the knurled part (for a standard oly bars I have at home, and both gyms I've gone to had). Your arms should be flared out around 60 degrees from your side, and going to your nipples or 1-3cm below.

The more you flare out your arms, the more you work your chest, and the closer you go, the more you work your triceps. Unfortunately for a full range of motion, if you flare out your arms too much, you're going to get a shoulder pinch injury and yeah, not a good time. When in doubt, start with closer grip, go lower on your chest, and slowly work your way until you're benching to your nipple. That's what I found the sweet spot of you're hitting your chest muscles reasonably well without being too prone to injury.

For some reason people have a tendency to want to force the bar to their chest with barbell press, while with dumbell press if there was an imaginary bar connecting the two, most people wouldn't hit their chest, I think that's the main reason why you're less likely to receive an injury with dumbbell press. Either way, I don't know what your flexibility is, but I hurt my shoulder a bit when getting back into the gym a few months back simply by flaring my arms out too much, so don't rush into it.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 17 2016 01:37 GMT

#2783

So I knew that wild fish is better than farmed fish, but is eating farmed fish actually bad for you? I eat farmed salmon and cod.

IgnE

United States7681 Posts

November 17 2016 01:46 GMT

#2784

No it's not bad for you. It's just not optimal. It won't make a huge difference. You can get cut on the cheapest ground meat around.

One way to think about it is that if you buy the very best foods you typically have a little more leeway in your diet: the freshest wild game meats and fish and the freshest vegetables will tend to have higher quality fats and less oxidation potential. Cheap meats and farm-raised fishes might be a little more pro-inflammatory so you probably have less leeway to include things like sucrose and high fructose foods in your diet. They aren't "bad" for you per se but they might be a little more oxidizing. Most of the time that won't matter. And it's certainly not worth the cost difference if you are running a tight budget.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 17 2016 02:03 GMT

#2785

I see, I assumed the nutritional values would be roughly the same but was slightly worried about the carcinogens and whatnot. I couldn't tell if the article was serious. People talking about fake news on social media, this is the real fake news, no one can tell the fucking difference.

decafchicken

United States20090 Posts

November 17 2016 02:34 GMT

#2786

Had last squat workout of this cycle:
10x100 8x157 6x172 4x182 2x195 1x210x 1x210.
Took me two attempts to hit 90% of 232 PR from earlier this year :'( hoping to hit 215-220 next week. Finally in my last week of rugby so I can get back into lifting full time and qualify for nationals at my next meet in Feb.

mordek

United States12705 Posts

November 17 2016 13:15 GMT

#2787

Were you hungover and beat up from a rugby? If not you were missing the key PR ingredient.

Garbels

Austria653 Posts

November 17 2016 14:53 GMT

#2788

Has farmed salmon actually the same levels of dioxins and co. than wild salmon nowadays?
If so is this a worldwide thing or region specific?
At least most european farmed salmon used to be really badly contaminated 10-15 years ago, right?

IgnE

United States7681 Posts

November 17 2016 16:03 GMT

#2789

I have no idea about dioxin levels in European farmed salmon. Maybe.

But whenever you read an article about "carcinogens" or some such you should ask yourself three questions: What's a carcinogen? Is the article's audience assumed to know what a carcinogen is? Does the author know what a carcinogen is?

Eating inflammatory foods might be carcinogenic. But sometimes things lead to cancer in one set of circumstances and have no effect in another.

http://www.ergo-log.com/the-more-inflammatory-factors-the-quicker-death-comes.html

decafchicken

United States20090 Posts

November 17 2016 20:42 GMT

#2790

Wouldn't eat farmed salmon either way. Wild salmon so much more delicious.

decafchicken

United States20090 Posts

November 17 2016 20:42 GMT

#2791

On November 17 2016 22:15 mordek wrote:
Were you hungover and beat up from a rugby? If not you were missing the key PR ingredient.

haha no hangover, legs a bit sore from rugby. I've got a game this saturday and i'll get pretty drunk on sunday to set me up for a big PR on monday xD

mordek

United States12705 Posts

November 18 2016 20:06 GMT

#2792

Finally made it. I came into college on a cross country scholarship but I've since corrected my course

+50lb in roughly ten years, a few of those years in the beginning were not serious or consistent. I'm pretty happy with where I am

+ Show Spoiler [Pre-serious lifting] +

oh gosh lol

+ Show Spoiler [Current 200lb bw] +

#dadbod

IgnE

United States7681 Posts

November 19 2016 02:12 GMT

#2793

Nice work. How tall are you?

mordek

United States12705 Posts

November 19 2016 04:00 GMT

#2794

On November 19 2016 11:12 IgnE wrote:
Nice work. How tall are you?

About a half inch over 6 foot or so.
And thanks!

decafchicken

United States20090 Posts

November 22 2016 17:00 GMT

#2795

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNHkEbQDH7x/

215kg squat from yesterday. Only 93%, hoping my strength will come back quickly now that rugby season is over.

Jer99

Canada8159 Posts

November 22 2016 17:34 GMT

#2796

Jeez dude that's only about 3.0295806x my weight

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 22 2016 17:57 GMT

#2797

Pretty beast.

How dumb is this question, is Bradley Martyn on gear?

IgnE

United States7681 Posts

November 22 2016 19:47 GMT

#2798

define gear

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

November 22 2016 22:04 GMT

#2799

steroids I guess, I don't know the details.

phyre112

United States3090 Posts

November 22 2016 22:16 GMT

#2800

Yes he is. So is almost anyone who makes money off of looking good, (instagram, youtube, or more traditional modelling/acting) regardless of whether they admit it or not.