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What do you guys think? Hall is probably the most talented American-born marathoner ever. Is he finished?
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20150315/la-marathon-2015-ryan-hall-drops-out-at-halfway-point What do you guys think? Hall is probably the most talented American-born marathoner ever. Is he finished? | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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N.geNuity
United States5111 Posts
I've been making steady progress after a good consistent january then an iffy february (flu hurt me for a while), but today had a good run on the very-near 4 mile (6.43 km) run I do. The actual distance is somewhere between 3.95 to 4.0 miles, I've never had a great estimate on the exact distance. I would estimate it as being 1.98 miles one way (I go out and back). BUT, today did it in 27:49. I'm very inconsistent with how I run it (typically a fraction over 14:00 on the way out, then sometimes I walk a minute somewhere in the way back so I take ~15 on the way back) but I'm slowly getting there! For reference, june 2014 I had a 2 week span where I ran it 9 times and each time was approximately 26:20 (high end right at 27:00, most around 26:20). edit- 27:41 today! a solid 2 day stretch | ||
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XPA
Germany242 Posts
On 6. September i want to run my first half marathon in Bochum (Germany). The last month I did a few easy runs to start. On Wednesday and Sunday I then did two long runs as a test where i am right now. Both times I managed to run 10k, the first time in 1:06:14, the second time in 57:50. The big difference probably is a result of the long run being way to early. Yesterday I started with my training plan (after getting my first running shoes, yay!), with 5k in a half hour, felt a bit weird with the new shoes, like not getting into a really rythm but I felt no pressure or pain in my feets so I think this will get better. From now on I will train three days a week and one or two cycling days, if I have enough time. After roughly 10 weeks I would like to do a 10k race, to get first experience with events like that, but i haven´t found one near my home so far. And then I have 15 weeks more to get to my goal. I would really like to have a certain time in mind as a goal, but I have no idea what is realistic for a beginner | ||
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Don_Julio
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On March 18 2015 20:43 XPA wrote: So for the first time after leaving my soccer team three years ago I will do a sport with a clear goal in mind. On 6. September i want to run my first half marathon in Bochum (Germany). The last month I did a few easy runs to start. On Wednesday and Sunday I then did two long runs as a test where i am right now. Both times I managed to run 10k, the first time in 1:06:14, the second time in 57:50. The big difference probably is a result of the long run being way to early. Yesterday I started with my training plan (after getting my first running shoes, yay!), with 5k in a half hour, felt a bit weird with the new shoes, like not getting into a really rythm but I felt no pressure or pain in my feets so I think this will get better. From now on I will train three days a week and one or two cycling days, if I have enough time. After roughly 10 weeks I would like to do a 10k race, to get first experience with events like that, but i haven´t found one near my home so far. And then I have 15 weeks more to get to my goal. I would really like to have a certain time in mind as a goal, but I have no idea what is realistic for a beginner How does the course of the HM look? Didn't find any information on its website. I'm still looking for a decent half to test for my fitness for Berlin and Bochum isn't too far away. The south of Bochum is really hilly though and I'm not sure I want to have a challenge like that so close to the full. Are you in Bochum? Have a look at the calendar of the FLVW: https://www.flvwdialog.de/php/db/index.php (select "Volksläufe"). There's a free print version, too. Check with a local running store if they have it. The FLVW is universally hated but their calendar is quite convenient. Which training plan are you going to use? | ||
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EpidemicSC
United States70 Posts
Gonna be running the Rock n' Roll marathon in San Diego in May and trying for a sub-4 hour pace. If anyone's got some good training tips or recommendations let me know, or just wish me luck! | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On March 19 2015 10:15 EpidemicSC wrote: Lifelong jogger here, new to long distance running. Gonna be running the Rock n' Roll marathon in San Diego in May and trying for a sub-4 hour pace. If anyone's got some good training tips or recommendations let me know, or just wish me luck! Don't just wing it but follow a training plan and don't skip your long runs. | ||
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Bonham
Canada655 Posts
On March 19 2015 10:15 EpidemicSC wrote: Lifelong jogger here, new to long distance running. Gonna be running the Rock n' Roll marathon in San Diego in May and trying for a sub-4 hour pace. If anyone's got some good training tips or recommendations let me know, or just wish me luck! Good luck! There are zillions of pages of advice for first-timers out there, so I'll just mention two things. 1 Do not do not do not do not do not get excited and go out too fast early in the race. The real test of the marathon does not start until 30k, and if you feel tired before then you are in for a long death march to the finish line. You'll be super excited by the race atmosphere and crowds, so you'll have to fight against that. The first half of the race should feel almost too easy, the middle 10k should be challenging but not overwhelming, and then the last 10k is where you spend what strength you've got and pass all those chumps who went out too fast. 2 If you can do it while still staying healthy, more mileage in training will generally lead to a more enjoyable race. I'm often surprised when I look at a beginner's marathon guide by how little running it contains. The best way to get better at running is to run! | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
2.9M uphill tempo. 7:46 pace, 4.2% average grade. Probably worth sub 7 effort, and it was very controlled. Definitely would have had no trouble doing another 15+ minutes at that clip. Nothing to light the world on fire with yet, but a nice start to my build for BB10K. Hopefully no nagging issues this time around. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
On March 22 2015 14:23 L_Master wrote: First workout (running) of 2015! 2.9M uphill tempo. 7:46 pace, 4.2% average grade. Probably worth sub 7 effort, and it was very controlled. Definitely would have had no trouble doing another 15+ minutes at that clip. Nothing to light the world on fire with yet, but a nice start to my build for BB10K. Hopefully no nagging issues this time around. That's so good to hear. Let's hope your streak of bad luck is finally over. | ||
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Don_Julio
2220 Posts
Next race is in 5 weeks but I think I'll put my main focus onto a 10k two months from now. | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1666 Posts
I haven't participated here before, but I feel like it's good to get some group motivation and advice, and state goals out loud so to speak. Half marathon is my distance, there's just something about it that I really enjoy. My PR is 01:25, and I ran a rather disappointing 01:27 last weekend. Just one of those days... I'm aiming for 1:20 or below by the end of September, which sounds ambitious but feels doable. Does anyone have good tips for effective training inbetween races? I tend to leave a long time between events and train consistently hard in the meantime, but perhaps it's better to put in the groundwork and get pace up throughout the autumn/winter, then focus on maintaining fitness and racing during the spring/summer months. That way I'll get more of the events which I really love, with more variety and more shots at making the most of my current fitness. It's so easy to have a bad day and fall well short of what you're capable of, and more races would mitigate that too. How do the rest of you approach training/racing cycles? | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On March 30 2015 20:46 ImbaTosS wrote: Hallo running people. I haven't participated here before, but I feel like it's good to get some group motivation and advice, and state goals out loud so to speak. Half marathon is my distance, there's just something about it that I really enjoy. My PR is 01:25, and I ran a rather disappointing 01:27 last weekend. Just one of those days... I'm aiming for 1:20 or below by the end of September, which sounds ambitious but feels doable. Does anyone have good tips for effective training inbetween races? I tend to leave a long time between events and train consistently hard in the meantime, but perhaps it's better to put in the groundwork and get pace up throughout the autumn/winter, then focus on maintaining fitness and racing during the spring/summer months. That way I'll get more of the events which I really love, with more variety and more shots at making the most of my current fitness. It's so easy to have a bad day and fall well short of what you're capable of, and more races would mitigate that too. How do the rest of you approach training/racing cycles? So it turns out Elegant is a runner. Nice! Probably the most common way of dividing a year up is to have two, maybe three, major "peaks". Generally these coincide with either a goal race if you're a marathoner on up, or a particular season (i.e. outdoor track, XC) if you're a 10k guy and below. Half marathon falls in between, so you probably could trend a little either way. My personal preference would be to have one season, probably fall, be focused on a goal HM race. Spring would then be focused on racing 5k/10k. This is good because it lets you stay in touch with speed and intensity during the spring, which then serves as an excellent springboard to running a good HM in the fall. HM has short enough recovery time that you could probably even have two goal HM about a month apart in the fall. Right after spring season ends, which is probably very late spring or early summer its common to take 1-2 weeks completely off, then 1-2 weeks where you only exercise "for fun" when the mood strikes you. Same applies to after fall season. Nearly every elite runner does this, though one is usually a more major 2-3 week break, and the other a shorter break. After that, the general gameplan tends to be building up mileage a little bit, throwing in tempos/fartleks, probably a weekly/bi monthly repeat session (but with longer recoveries such that they are not super hard, just promoting staying in touch with faster paces/harder running), and some speed development work (i.e. weekly session of various things such as 6-8s hill sprints, flying 60s, acceleration 150s, etc). All of this generally builds a really strong fitness base, and with the inclusion of speed stuff prepares you for the more intense training to come in spring/fall while also improving general form and efficiency with the speed development. Then starting 3-5 months out from the target of the season the real training begins, which would be your 5k/10k/HM specific training build. | ||
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mtmentat
United States142 Posts
It's been a while since I've posted here, but this Spring has been pretty good to me so far/at the same time very busy! Good to see all your workouts/runs on Strava, esp. Bonham & his half marathon build. Good luck! Running with a group is amazing, when I get time. I'm really pushing through some distance/grade boundaries with the help of RMR, and getting back into pretty darn good shape. 800 workouts hurt, and hill climbs are brutal, but I'm feeling good while adding miles up to an acceptable level. Yea, Springtime without injuries (knock on wood, so far!). I've had a bit of PF, IT tightness, but just massage, stretching, strength work have all kept it in check. Last, but not least, I saw one of my favorite running shirts on sale in a very nice blue, recently. Anyone still interested in a "TL Offline Activities" running shirt? http://bit.ly/1NEueAp The idea would be to order quite a few, pick them up in person in Denver, and have a local guy print them. I don't know what the printing setup fee would be, yet, but I'm betting I could get these down to the $25-$30/per (printed & shipped to USA addresses, a bit extra for international). | ||
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VHbb
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
Running in the footsteps of elites is gonna be awesome. The course is nice too I'll see em on the other side of the road at a few points. Dieting like crazy to keep the weight down too, still got a couple pounds to drop. I've had a solid past few weeks though so I think I'll hit this race in pretty solid shape. | ||
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On April 01 2015 13:07 LuckyFool wrote: I just found out I got seeded into the elite/first corral for the Cherry Blossom 10 miler LOL....I guess my estimated finishing time of 1:15 was right on the edge of the first and second corrals. Running in the footsteps of elites is gonna be awesome. The course is nice too I'll see em on the other side of the road at a few points. Dieting like crazy to keep the weight down too, still got a couple pounds to drop. I've had a solid past few weeks though so I think I'll hit this race in pretty solid shape. Nice! Just realize these races tend to go out SCREAMING fast, I'd really recommend trying to be pretty much off the back at the start or you're going to open with a quarter well under 75. I haven't heard to much on the LF front, is this a goal race for you, or just a race in part of your build? Also, any goal time in mind? As for the dieting, nothing wrong with it as long as "crazy" doesn't mean you're trying to lose 3lbs a week or something. Keep it reasonable and start making sure you have normal calorie balance at least 2-3 days out from your race. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
I do want to run 75 or faster in this upcoming race though. I had a rough/lazy winter, only been back at it for the past month or so. | ||
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A3th3r
United States319 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
On April 07 2015 09:46 A3th3r wrote: My biking group has a 30k planned for the upcoming weekend Nice stuff! Have a good ride | ||
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