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On December 19 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2014 08:44 oneofthem wrote:
rondo is hugely ball dominant but he does distribute well. dallas has a metric ton of shooters. will not bash this immediately fair enough. i think wright was a huge contributor off the bench. dallas gave up quite a bit. i think they lose in this trade if rondo's play is as bad as it is in dallas as it was in boston. we'll see, my concern is how ellis works with rondo.
Rondo play was bad in Boston? That's a really dumb thing to say. You need to watch some games.
The only issue would be Monta Ellis demanding the ball more than needed, but I think he's been getting a lot better at his decision making. Rondo is an amazing fit for Dallas, my only beef with Dallas per se is that their uniforms are fucking ugly and I might not buy a new Rondo jersey now.
Rondo is gone - pretty much fml at this point
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On December 19 2014 10:55 usedtocare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:On December 19 2014 08:44 oneofthem wrote:
rondo is hugely ball dominant but he does distribute well. dallas has a metric ton of shooters. will not bash this immediately fair enough. i think wright was a huge contributor off the bench. dallas gave up quite a bit. i think they lose in this trade if rondo's play is as bad as it is in dallas as it was in boston. we'll see, my concern is how ellis works with rondo. Rondo play was bad in Boston? That's a really dumb thing to say. You need to watch some games. The only issue would be Monta Ellis demanding the ball more than needed, but I think he's been getting a lot better at his decision making. Rondo is an amazing fit for Dallas, my only beef with Dallas per se is that their uniforms are fucking ugly and I might not buy a new Rondo jersey now. Rondo is gone - pretty much fml at this point
you mean rondo has been playing well for boston this year? i watch plenty of games
the issue is not just rondo, it's their depth now. unless they pick up JO, their frontcourt is really really shallow
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On December 19 2014 11:13 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2014 10:55 usedtocare wrote:On December 19 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:On December 19 2014 08:44 oneofthem wrote:
rondo is hugely ball dominant but he does distribute well. dallas has a metric ton of shooters. will not bash this immediately fair enough. i think wright was a huge contributor off the bench. dallas gave up quite a bit. i think they lose in this trade if rondo's play is as bad as it is in dallas as it was in boston. we'll see, my concern is how ellis works with rondo. Rondo play was bad in Boston? That's a really dumb thing to say. You need to watch some games. The only issue would be Monta Ellis demanding the ball more than needed, but I think he's been getting a lot better at his decision making. Rondo is an amazing fit for Dallas, my only beef with Dallas per se is that their uniforms are fucking ugly and I might not buy a new Rondo jersey now. Rondo is gone - pretty much fml at this point you mean rondo has been playing well for boston this year? i watch plenty of games the issue is not just rondo, it's their depth now. unless they pick up JO, their frontcourt is really really shallow
Given his health early on and some strange minutes and new rotations that Stevens tried excessively - he was good. He took a couple of games off but he's also got 3 triple doubles and just as many near misses. Lets just say that in important games he was excellent.
Can anyone give an assessment of whether Celtics got anything worthy out of this? A backup center, okay I guess he will be a starter now since there was no true center. But is he even better than Sullinger at this position?
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I like the scenario where Rondo resigns with Boston after his contract is up. It's a fanboy in me talking but who knows 
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When will Harden ever learn to play defense
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On December 19 2014 17:06 Disregard wrote:
When will Harden ever learn to play defense
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have you watched any rockets games this year?
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On December 19 2014 11:13 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2014 10:55 usedtocare wrote:On December 19 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:On December 19 2014 08:44 oneofthem wrote:
rondo is hugely ball dominant but he does distribute well. dallas has a metric ton of shooters. will not bash this immediately fair enough. i think wright was a huge contributor off the bench. dallas gave up quite a bit. i think they lose in this trade if rondo's play is as bad as it is in dallas as it was in boston. we'll see, my concern is how ellis works with rondo. Rondo play was bad in Boston? That's a really dumb thing to say. You need to watch some games. The only issue would be Monta Ellis demanding the ball more than needed, but I think he's been getting a lot better at his decision making. Rondo is an amazing fit for Dallas, my only beef with Dallas per se is that their uniforms are fucking ugly and I might not buy a new Rondo jersey now. Rondo is gone - pretty much fml at this point you mean rondo has been playing well for boston this year? i watch plenty of games the issue is not just rondo, it's their depth now. unless they pick up JO, their frontcourt is really really shallow
definitely this, i think rondo will fit well enough with the mavs when push comes to shove, but who is going to fill in for brendan wright?
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LOL as if the West could get anymore stacked.
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Don't like Rondo's fit with Monta but we'll see how it goes. Monta doesn't play off the ball very well and Rondo loves pounding the brick.
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On December 19 2014 08:57 ketomai wrote:
I think it'll be great. Dallas's defense was bad because they didn't have good perimeter defense. This is definitely an upgrade over Jameer Nelson.
The only problem is Brendan Wright was the backup big man and the next in line is Greg Smith. They definitely need to pick up someone along the lines of Jermaine O'Neal to back up Tyson Chandler for sure.
Agree with this except Rondo's defense hasn't been elite but maybe he'll be back. Dallas losing Wright is a big blow though because he was very good in limited minutes. I'm almost certain Dallas is going to try and get another big. Without one they are pretty much screwed.
Get rid of Felton+Barea asap.
On December 19 2014 20:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
LOL as if the West could get anymore stacked.
Someone on twitter was posting Stan Van Gundy's expressions during games. Really think the Pistons might kill him. at least Drummond is looking good though.
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Wow Rockets got owned hard. Not ever betting them on back to backs.
Hope durant is okay. Good game by the dubs
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i think there's not enough credit given to how dallas's system can make marginal players like crowder look better, esp in terms of stats.
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On December 19 2014 11:21 usedtocare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2014 11:13 Doraemon wrote:On December 19 2014 10:55 usedtocare wrote:On December 19 2014 08:53 Doraemon wrote:On December 19 2014 08:44 oneofthem wrote:
rondo is hugely ball dominant but he does distribute well. dallas has a metric ton of shooters. will not bash this immediately fair enough. i think wright was a huge contributor off the bench. dallas gave up quite a bit. i think they lose in this trade if rondo's play is as bad as it is in dallas as it was in boston. we'll see, my concern is how ellis works with rondo. Rondo play was bad in Boston? That's a really dumb thing to say. You need to watch some games. The only issue would be Monta Ellis demanding the ball more than needed, but I think he's been getting a lot better at his decision making. Rondo is an amazing fit for Dallas, my only beef with Dallas per se is that their uniforms are fucking ugly and I might not buy a new Rondo jersey now. Rondo is gone - pretty much fml at this point you mean rondo has been playing well for boston this year? i watch plenty of games the issue is not just rondo, it's their depth now. unless they pick up JO, their frontcourt is really really shallow Can anyone give an assessment of whether Celtics got anything worthy out of this? A backup center, okay I guess he will be a starter now since there was no true center. But is he even better than Sullinger at this position?
Ok so for most trades in the NBA before the trade deadline (Feb 19th) a player you're trading needs to be on your roster for a minimum of 60 days. Notice the timing of when the Celtics shipped off Rondo? 60 days beforehand. They also have his $12.9 million trade exception for one year that they can use to trade someone worth, say $5 million for $17.9 million, which jumpstarts their rebuilding process. All signed point to them trading off one (or more) of their newly acquired pieces to perhaps fill someone's backcourt depth (Wright) or if someone is begging for a half-decent guard (Nelson) and with the current iteration of the Celtics there's plenty more court time for a guy like Wright to boost his trade value.
It's all just setup for a trade in the future, and even if it's not done at this year's deadline you better believe that these pieces aren't going to be here to stay for the longterm. It's like looking at half of the deal because you know the Mavs got Rondo, but you don't know what the Celtics are REALLY getting since they haven't finished yet. Ainge isn't afraid of making big/lots of trades to try to get someone worth getting. The real problem is going to get guys who are buying into this team building its way back up to the top.
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On December 19 2014 10:03 Doraemon wrote:
rondo will always be high usage, what else is he going to do if he doesn't have the ball? but ellis demands the ball too (8th in usage)
he's half court orientated but dallas plays high pace (10th in pace)
defense just sags on rondo and makes it easier to rotate (refer to my $ splits for rondo)
he is not as close to a perfect fit as possible. he'll help on the perimeter D but his effect on the O is questionable
the real issue is dallas' front court...wright was big and now lost crowder. who do the mavs have left? smith and aminu?
The notion that Ellis can only play with the ball is completely overblown. He does that with the Mavs because he's been the primary ball handler there over the likes of Nelson, Harris, even Calderon. Don't forget that he did relatively ok playing with Brandon Jennings, Baron Davis in his Milwaukee and especially his GS years. He's very good at cutting to the basket and is an excellent passer. He'll be alright.
For the front court, Dallas should be looking for someone different than Brandan Wright. While he was great with Dallas, he was only able to be used situationally against certain lineups for instant offense off the bench. They need someone who is actually big enough to protect the post. The offense will come by itself because Centers have a really simplified role in the Mav's offense. You just need to be able to set picks and roll to the rim, catch lobs; basically anyone can do that (but not necessarily as efficiently as Wright).
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This is why an owner like Cuban is awesome. It is pretty much him going for it before Nowitzki's time runs out completely. A bold, calculated move whose chances of success improve with Carlisle as their coach.
Good read on the trade which sums up my thoughts and more is by Mahoney. http://www.si.com/nba/2014/12/18/rajon-rondo-dallas-mavericks-boston-celtics-trade
Rondo's always played well on big games too it seems. He raises his level. So I can see him getting motivated again, and with the direction of Carlisle, it could be a smoother integration than he imagined.
Wright is the biggest loss like you guys said already. Maintaining Chandler's health will be more important now.
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Yeah, Wright is a big loss. He's a pretty decent contributor in offense as well since he gets almost 9 ppg just on very high percentage shots.
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new raptor logo being leaked
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i guess its a dinosaur hand gripping a basketball.
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Logo is meh... In other news, Brewer and Turiaf traded to Houston for two future second round picks and Troy Daniels.
"MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A person with knowledge of the agreement tells The Associated Press that the Minnesota Timberwolves have agreed to trade veteran swingman Corey Brewer to the Houston Rockets for Troy Daniels and two future second-round picks.
The Rockets will also receive Ronny Turiaf, who is out for the season after surgery on his hip. The person spoke Friday on condition of anonymity because the trade has not been officially announced.
The Timberwolves will get a second-round pick in 2015 from Sacramento and a 2016 second-rounder from Houston, along with cash considerations.
The trade gives the Rockets another proven veteran defender in Brewer to compete in the demanding Western Conference. Yahoo Sports first reported the deal."
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What the Raptors need to do is change their name to the Toronto Huskies.
Then they can make a logo around that.
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There was no big Dinosaur bones dig site found any where near Toronto.
The city has nothing to do with dinosaurs at all. The team got the name because Jurassic Park was a big movie the year the team was born.
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