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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 28 2014 08:39 GMT
#1941
Depends. Wall/Beal are still young and can improve, PP's old man game is strong, I haven't given up on Porter yet.

Plus the East has been plagued by injuries the past two season so like, you never know man.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:28:19
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#1942
I don't think it's smart to base your predictions of the playoffs around injuries unless those injuries are more likely to happen than not (e.g. Nene always gets hurt at some point). It's kind of weird to just say "Washington will be a top 4 team because some injuries will happen to the better teams and not as much to them."
Remember Violet.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:45:29
September 28 2014 09:39 GMT
#1943
oh it was more the first point than the second, I just felt like saying lol. It was less about Washington making 4th seed and more of a predictions are hard to make when the past 2 or so season have shown that injuries had a big impact on standings.

I just think that Washington's young fellas have a lot more potential and shown a lot more year over year growth than a lot of other teams in the East.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 29 2014 20:16 GMT
#1944
Woops you're right...

1. Cavs
2. Wizards
3. Bulls
4. Bobcats
5. Miami
6. Raptors
7. Atlanta
8. ____________(Bucks, Knicks, Nets)

There's my revised prediction including Miami :o
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
September 29 2014 20:56 GMT
#1945
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-29 21:29:56
September 29 2014 21:15 GMT
#1946
Predictions times
+ Show Spoiler +
West
1. Spurs
2. OKC
3. LAC
4. GSW
5. Mavs
6. POR
7. PHX
8. HOU/MEM/DEN
Dark Horses: Pelicans


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East
1. CAVS
2. CHI
3. WSH
4. TOR
5. CHA
6, ATL
7, MIA
8. NYK/BKN (Maybe Detroit depends on SVG)
Dark Horses: Bucks
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 29 2014 22:10 GMT
#1947
I don't think the Bucks are making it. If they make the playoffs with that young team so quickly (da god Larry Sanders coming back?!) then holy shit for the rest of the league. That's a good 5 or 6 year window with valuable players to run wild.

Iffy on the Bulls, Dallas, and Portland.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 29 2014 23:16 GMT
#1948
On September 30 2014 07:10 Ace wrote:
I don't think the Bucks are making it. If they make the playoffs with that young team so quickly (da god Larry Sanders coming back?!) then holy shit for the rest of the league. That's a good 5 or 6 year window with valuable players to run wild.

Iffy on the Bulls, Dallas, and Portland.


Are you iffy on the Bulls because: you think Rose will get injured, Gasol is washed up, or what? I personally think Rose will be healthy, but I don't think he'll be recognizable as 'Derrick Rose' until post all-star break. I think Gasol will thrive and help them out, I think he'll be a big upgrade over Boozer. The biggest issue I forsee with them is the possible chemistry issue with Taj Gibson being unhappy with his role as a backup possibly hurting the team.

I think Jabari Parker is going to be beastly and exceed expectations, I think Larry Sanders will be good again, I think they have solid role players: Ilyasova, Brandon Knight, and OJ Mayo can't possibly be shitty this year. Giannis is a huge wildcard, but if he performs I think they can definitely get in
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 29 2014 23:31 GMT
#1949
I've never considered Rose as good as the general public but that's no secret. Even with 2011 Rose I'd be iffy with them missing underrated monsters like Kyle Korver (elite SG in the league last year), 2012-13 Deng, and Brewer. Add in his horrible looking play in FIBA and I'm not sure if he'll be 100% to start the season. Assuming he is, I still don't trust Chicago to make a huge impact with the team they have. Pau has been mostly bad for like 4 years now. He can't guard opposing PFs at all, nevermind some of the younger Centers in the league. If they play him more than Gibson they are definitely costing themselves wins. After win projections come out I'll probably bet heavily against them if they have anything like 57+ wins listed.

Oj Mayo...

Parker could definitely exceed expectations. Heck, I doubt it but he could even have All Star impact. That being said they'd need more from Ilyasova (easily possible but wtf happened last year?!) and Giannis who is supposedly going to spend some time playing PG. If Larry Sanders comes back to his old self then yea they are a lock to make the playoffs.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 29 2014 23:35 GMT
#1950
Iffy on Chicago = What? It seems incomprehensible that they would miss the playoffs.
Freeeeeeedom
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 29 2014 23:51 GMT
#1951
Lol no. On them being the #2 seed. Waiting to see win projections that come out. If it's something like Cleveland winning 60 and #2 at 50 then sure.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 30 2014 00:28 GMT
#1952
cleveland offense could be historic and bulls always win in the regular season. their seeding usually overestimates their playoff performance though
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 30 2014 00:35 GMT
#1953
On September 30 2014 09:28 oneofthem wrote:
cleveland offense could be historic and bulls always win in the regular season. their seeding usually overestimates their playoff performance though


I mean, that is not really true.

2014: Lost 4-5
2013: Won 5-4
2012: Lost 1-8 (Rose/Noah injuries)
2011: Lost 1-2 (Ok, Lebron was amazing, and had he played like he did vs. Dallas Chicago would have won)
2010: Lost 8-1
2009: Lost 7-2

Seems like they perform about what the regular season says. Unless we count the time their best player's knee exploded and their 2nd best player was playing on 1 foot.
Freeeeeeedom
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 30 2014 02:36 GMT
#1954
obviously injury and general wear and tear is a part of why they underperformed. that's kind of the point, that they go too hard in the regular season. but hey chicago relies on the regular season to rake in the cash
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 30 2014 02:38 GMT
#1955
On September 30 2014 11:36 oneofthem wrote:
obviously injury and general wear and tear is a part of why they underperformed. that's kind of the point, that they go too hard in the regular season. but hey chicago relies on the regular season to rake in the cash

Their minutes are slightly higher but nothing too bad- Deng's 39 minutes was an anomoly. Thibs does care too much about winning in the regular season and I think that's a good criticism of him but back in 11 before they gutted out bench the minutes weren't too bad, then they did and he cared too much and he gave everyone hella minutes again. Now that we beefed up our bench I think it'll be fine. If you think about it some of the injuries, like D Rose's 2nd one, weren't a result of overplaying him- he was still not getting full starter minutes iirc. I think it's a combination of bad luck and a terrible injury/doctor staff or whatever. Like the spinal tap on Deng thing and not diagnosing Asik's broken foot.

Just need to poach Phoenix's medical staff.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
September 30 2014 21:11 GMT
#1956
The reasons why you don't think the Bulls are the 2nd best team are exactly why I think the Wizards will be. There's really no other team that has their combination of youth and experience, and they're already coming off a great season (to their standards)
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-30 23:36:18
September 30 2014 23:33 GMT
#1957
On September 30 2014 11:38 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2014 11:36 oneofthem wrote:
obviously injury and general wear and tear is a part of why they underperformed. that's kind of the point, that they go too hard in the regular season. but hey chicago relies on the regular season to rake in the cash

Their minutes are slightly higher but nothing too bad- Deng's 39 minutes was an anomoly. Thibs does care too much about winning in the regular season and I think that's a good criticism of him but back in 11 before they gutted out bench the minutes weren't too bad, then they did and he cared too much and he gave everyone hella minutes again. Now that we beefed up our bench I think it'll be fine. If you think about it some of the injuries, like D Rose's 2nd one, weren't a result of overplaying him- he was still not getting full starter minutes iirc. I think it's a combination of bad luck and a terrible injury/doctor staff or whatever. Like the spinal tap on Deng thing and not diagnosing Asik's broken foot.

Just need to poach Phoenix's medical staff.

it's widely known that thibs runs a hard practice schedule. their regular season preparation is top notch. but in the playoffs everyone is more prepared so that edge wears down a bit.

on rose's injury, there's some recent sports medicine study on why certain fast twitch/explosive athletes tend to get injured. one possibility is that they are just different from the less explosive guys and can't stand up to a lot of hard practice/minutes. it happens a lot in other sports, like usain bolt in sprinting or tulowitzki in baseball
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 01:04:39
October 01 2014 01:03 GMT
#1958
On September 30 2014 08:51 Ace wrote:
Lol no. On them being the #2 seed. Waiting to see win projections that come out. If it's something like Cleveland winning 60 and #2 at 50 then sure.


Just saw this:

Westgate SuperBook NBA Win Totals
Predicted NBA win totals for the 2014-15 NBA season,
posted by the Westgate SuperBook in Las Vegas on Tuesday.

Team Win Total

Cavaliers 58.5
Thunder 57.5
Spurs 56.5
Bulls 55.5
Clippers 55.5
Warriors 50.5
Mavericks 49.5
Raptors 49.5
Rockets 49.5
Wizards 49.5
Grizzlies 48.5
Trail Blazers 48.5
Hornets 45.5
Heat 43.5
Suns 42.5
Nets 41.5
Pelicans 41.5
Hawks 40.5
Knicks 40.5
Nuggets 40.5
Pistons 36.5
Pacers 32.5
Lakers 31.5
Kings 30.5
Magic 28.5
Celtics 26.5
Jazz 25.5
Timberwolves 25.5
Bucks 24.5
76ers 15.5

source: Straight [ctlr+v ] from http://espn.go.com/espn/chalk/story/_/id/11619674/las-vegas-westgate-superbook-sets-win-totals-nba-cleveland-cavaliers-league-best-585
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13291 Posts
October 01 2014 02:48 GMT
#1959
Pretty tempted to take unders on Philly at 15.5. Cracking 10 wins will be an achievement for them.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 03:21:51
October 01 2014 03:20 GMT
#1960
fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkk Bulls at 55? Was hoping it would be higher. I'll probably take the under on them and over on Mia/Atl anyway.


Pacers at 32!?!!!!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!? wtffffffffffffffffffffffffffff UNDER!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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