UFC 172: Jones vs Teixeira

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y0su

Finland7871 Posts

April 28 2014 09:55 GMT

#61

On April 27 2014 15:36 ninazerg wrote:

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I'm kind of biased, but I enjoy almost every fight I watch for some weird reason. Luke Rockhold vs Tim Boetsch was short, but good, especially if you love grappling. Jon Jones is always fun to watch, if you want to see a good KO, check out Chris Beal vs Patrick Williams. The Rockhold vs Boetsch fight had a great submission at the end, but also so did Tim Elliott vs Joseph Benavidez. Jessamyn Duke did a really nice Judo trip to counter the body-lock from Bethe Correia in her fight.

Agree, watched the event this morning and thought all the fights were good (really liked the Rockhold v Boetsch fight too).

On April 28 2014 18:14 Masheyoon wrote:

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On April 28 2014 06:56 GrapeApe wrote:

On April 27 2014 13:34 Shinokuki wrote:

On April 27 2014 13:27 GrapeApe wrote:
Blah, just another striker could can't figure out the range or the elbows :\

On April 27 2014 13:19 Silentness wrote:
Jon Jones reach is ridiculous haha. He literally covers his opponent's face with one hand and then sets them up for combinations.

He's lucky he didn't lose a point, because he was going fingers to eyes quite a bit before getting warned. He looked like Koscheck out there with that shit.

then he didn't finger again. Its mma dude.. Just use it as advantage.
Jon jones was like.... a beast today. I was so amazed at his versatility

I'm not saying he shouldn't use his advantages (the hands in the face, the hyper extending knee strikes, the hyper extending locked elbow in the clinch, the shoulder strikes), but I'm saying he needs to be careful with it because aside from the point ramifications in the ring he could really ruin a good fight with a shit eye poke. You fuck up a guys vision in the first couple of minutes with a bad "accidental" eye poke and you have a huge advantage for a pretty substantial amount of time. And I'm not trying to take anything away from him...I think he beats Glover probably 9 out of 10 times, but the last thing the UFC needs is for Jones to start getting a dirty fighter tag.

Jones vs Gus rematch is going to be huge, man. My heart cries for Gus, but my brain really says that the champ is going to hold on to this belt for a very, very long time. Jones is just so good and I know the UFC always likes to hype that "this is the best version of <insert name> we've ever seen" but Jones just seems to bring something new every single fight, and uses everything so intelligently. Barring any sort of flash knockout, or some INSANE control on the ground, I just don't see him losing. And if Hendo somehow beats DC...oh jeez, Jones will be champion forever. I feel like Hendo/Jones goes exactly like Glover/Jones, except Hendo gases throwing H-bombs from 88 inches away and missing and gets finished.

I agree and I have repeated myself several times on this matter. The solution is simple: extending your fingers towards an opponents face should be illegal, plain and simple. The arm-extending Jones utilizes is meant to keep his opponents at a distance, therefore extending your FIST towards an opponents face is all that is necessary, and there is nothing wrong with that. There is no other way around this and no other solution. If your fingers gets near an opponents face, an "accidental" eye-poke is bound to happen. It astounds me how common sense escapes the folks at the UFC.

Jones's eye-poke versus Gustafsson immediately comes to mind. Gus had Jones in a very tough spot, and that eye-poke, accidental or not (it wasn't, in my opinion), bought Jones some time to recover.

Anyway, I have no idea as to who will win the Jones vs Gus rematch. Both of these guys know each other well now that they've gone to war with each other for 25 minutes. I'm leaning towards Gus with his excellent boxing and superior takedown defense.

I agree and it sounded like Joe was kind of saying the same.

GrapeApe

1053 Posts

April 29 2014 16:55 GMT

#62

The more I look into this it seems the world is starting to back Jones being a dirty fighter. The eye pokes have been a HUGE problem in the past (at least 5 of his fights) and Rampage wasn't even aware that knee kick he was doing in their fight was legal (Rampage doesn't seem real bright =). It's really the eye pokes. That shit has to go.

ninazerg

United States7291 Posts

April 29 2014 21:53 GMT

#63

Actually, the bout that comes to my mind first is Bisping vs Alan Belcher when it comes to eye-poking. That was really unfortunate, but it made me wonder why more fighters who are down in points, for example, don't 'accidentally' start throwing kicks to the groin or poking.

But to be honest, I have no problem with the open hand reaching. Just the referees need to deduct points more liberally on fouls involving eye-pokes.

ieatkids5

United States4628 Posts

April 30 2014 21:12 GMT

#64

Yeah, the ref is at fault too. Jones is doing something illegal, so he's at fault of course, but when the ref doesn't do anything about it (2 warnings and then nothing else despite Jones continuing to do it?), then he's not doing his job.

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