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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
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Elurie
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On January 19 2015 12:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Seahawks better crush them. I'm confident in my blessing though so I think Seattle is getting their repeat championship. No crushing please. Superbowls had been boring lately. The last exciting one I could remember was Steelers/Cardinals and that epic final-minute run. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:08 Elurie wrote: No crushing please. Superbowls had been boring lately. The last exciting one I could remember was Steelers/Cardinals and that epic final-minute run. Whoa there! 49ers and Ravens was good as was the Pats against the Giants. | ||
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:08 Elurie wrote: No crushing please. Superbowls had been boring lately. The last exciting one I could remember was Steelers/Cardinals and that epic final-minute run. well crushing in the sense that they're gonna win lol. i still want a good exciting game, and i think we'll get one. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On January 19 2015 11:49 giftdgecko wrote: So Luck probably shouldn't get that monster deal but I can understand giving it to him. This indy team is missing a lot more pieces than I thought why not? he is their franchise quite literally. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:01 Ghostcom wrote: Because what cLutZ is writing is nonsense. You are kidding right? Colts would have had Leaf and RG3 if Manning/Luck had come out as Juniors and would have been just as bad at building a competent run defense around those QBs that are not Elite. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:21 oneofthem wrote: why not? he is their franchise quite literally. Because I'm against paying any player more than 20 mill a year, and the fact that when you overpay the QB's you usually get a team with a pretty good offense and a lot of missing parts. Guy's gotta get paid cuz he's damn good but is he really the best player in football/does he warrant the deal they are talking about? | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4783 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:27 cLutZ wrote: You are kidding right? Colts would have had Leaf and RG3 if Manning/Luck had come out as Juniors and would have been just as bad at building a competent run defense around those QBs that are not Elite. I'm not even close to kidding - that you even suggest so reflects how little you actually know about the Colts. The Tony Dungy Defence was build specifically that way because they had Manning. You have no way of knowing how the chips would have fallen had they not gotten Manning. This team is currently 2 years removed from COMPLETELY cleaning house. It is a little early to say anything about their ability to build around Luck - in fact they are ahead of their own plan by already being the 2.nd best AFC team. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
It's kind of strange and creepy to know tens of millions of people are looking at it happen. | ||
GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
That said, in the last few years the franchises that have benefited from drafting a QB early on (second round or earlier) have been the Colts (Luck), Dolphins (Tannehill), Panthers (Cam), Bengals (Dalton), 49ers (Kaep), Lions (Stafford), Falcons (Matt Ryan) and Ravens (Joe Flacco), while those that ended up with a colossal bust have been the Bucs (Josh Freeman), Jets (Geno and Sanchez), Broncos (Tebow), Panthers (Jimmy Clausen), Jaguars (Blaine Gabbert), Titans (Jake Locker), Vikings (Ponder), Browns (Brandon Weeden), and arguably Bills (EJ Manuel) and Skins (RG3). There's definitely a pattern there, but out of all those the only ones that have taken a historically awful franchise into playoff material in a short amount of time have been Matt Ryan and Matthew Stafford. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On January 19 2015 22:41 GrandInquisitor wrote: Honestly I don't think it's an accident that two well-managed franchises picked up Luck, Rodgers, Brady, etc. You think that Cleveland was just "unlucky" with every single QB they drafted? Sure, Manning probably is a fundamentally better player than Leaf, but at some point you need to give the organization credit for being able to develop QBs, instead of just failing to develop QBs and then labeling them a bust in hindsight. If the Browns or Redskins or [insert bottom-dwelling team here] had drafted Luck, Rodgers, or Brady, those QBs would probably be "busts" too. That's interesting, I think that it's the exact opposite. Luck and Manning were the most sure fire QBs to come out of their draft in their generations, so it doesn't seem fair to attribute their successes exclusively to the Colts. As for your Browns point, I think it comes down to the fact that there is only something like 12 people on the planet who can play Super Bowl caliber football, and the Browns just keep trying to find one of them and miss. Everyone misses on QBs. I think that the successful ones are merely exceptions. | ||
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TriO
United States421 Posts
On January 19 2015 12:04 KingofdaHipHop wrote: Seahawks better crush them. I'm confident in my blessing though so I think Seattle is getting their repeat championship. Seahawks ain't crushing anyone. Seahawks almost lost yesterday against a one legged Rodgers and a retarded head coach yesterday. a couple of brief comments on the offense as it relates to Seattle. a. That was simply a HISTORIC gag by GB. Never has a team had more chances to win a game that was their’s for the taking and blew them all. Lots of 3rd and short failures that led to FG's, instead of TD’s. At least 3 dropped picks that I saw to go along with the 4 that occurred. And several rain (perhaps) related drops. b. Seattle deserves lots of kudos for their mental toughness and hard nose attitude, but they had no business winning that game. That one is going to eat at GB and their fans for a long time. I can’t imagine a worse loss. But on the plus side they exposed a LOT of flaws in the Seahawk game on both sides that have been covered up by the EXTREMELY soft schedule they had played over the last 7 games c. The Pats may not have the elite brand of receivers GB might has)Cobb, Nelson), but they have more legit targets that a team has to defend. They will be by far the most difficult team Seattle has had to face this year. GB could have easily put up 4o against them. d. GB has an OL that’s no better than ours and probably worse, and Rodgers had plenty of time to throw the bal, despite the disadvantage of playing in Seattle. e. The most important aspect of all these arcane plays and formations, is not only are the Pats executing them so well, it forces ANOTHER group of football situations that Seattle will have to prepare. As the announcers rightly mentioned, no comes close to the number of formations, plays, and personnel groupings each game as the Pats. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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TriO
United States421 Posts
On January 20 2015 00:26 farvacola wrote: As if that matters. The Hawks have made it clear that they can look like an entirely different team from one down to the next. They've turned inconsistency into a virtue lol. The next time the seahawks will be playing won't have a retarded head coach or a one legged Rodgers that what matters. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
In other news, Mike McCarthy's performance yesterday has prompted the return of "Thank You For Not Coaching"! http://grantland.com/the-triangle/afc-nfc-championship-patriots-colts-seahawks-packers/ | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
On January 20 2015 00:37 TriO wrote: The next time the seahawks will be playing won't have a retarded head coach or a one legged Rodgers that what matters. And the Seahawks that show up at that next game are going to look like a different team out there, if the past is any indication. Repeatedly pointing out how gimped the Packers were doesn't change how volatile the Hawks are. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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