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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14911 Posts
Eagles looking strong, pumped for this game vs seattle | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
To me, Marvin Lewis is a coach who can take a sub .500 team and make a decent enough unit out of them. His teams never seem to go anywhere once they play better competition. That team's had way too much talent the past 3 years to not make it out of the WC. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On December 02 2014 04:35 Shellshock wrote: What are you talking about? Isn't he Peyton Manning 2.0?! There was even an infographic about it! + Show Spoiler + hahaha that's great | ||
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PlacidPanda
United States246 Posts
On December 02 2014 05:40 cLutZ wrote: By the way, why is everyone all about Marvin Lewis throwing the challenge flag? Its not like it was some ingenious move. The penalty cost him a timeout...the same timeout he could have just called for the same effect. He didn't have any timeouts. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Reminds me of something I saw recently that showed the Jay Cutler and Brett Favre have essentially the same Comp %, TD/Int ratio, yards per game, etc. Ignoring that Favre played the majority of his career in a league where you could maul receivers and spear the quarterback. Plus he never missed a game, whereas Cutler is always injured. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
He had two timeouts. The issue was that he wanted a challenge from the booth on the previous play and didn't think he was going to get one. The Bucs with no timeouts were running back up to the line to spike the ball and stop the clock, but that would also prevent review on the previous play. So he threw the challenge flag regardless and the stoppage gave the time needed for the booth to review the play. Since he had 2 timeouts, burning one on a penalty for an illegal challenge was an easy price to pay for getting the challenge he wanted in the first place. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
IMO people are vastly overpaying their non-elite QBs at the moment. I'd say that if you don't have Rodgers/Manning/Brady/Rivers/Romo/Luck (maybe Rothlisburger and Brees) you have hurt your team by signing them for much more than the Orton $5 million plus the 4 other quality players you get. Or just drafting a QB, getting the comp picks and the extra salary cap. Tannehill's value to a team is probably about 7-9 million per. You wont be able to sign him at that (probably) as the Dolphins. But you are better off letting him go than paying him $15+ per. | ||
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On December 02 2014 16:14 cLutZ wrote: The answer is really just a gamble on how smart you think the Miami front office is. Cincinnati/Chicago level? Yes. Oakland and Tampa? Hell yes. Indy/Green Bay/New England? Unknown. Chip Kelly? No. IMO people are vastly overpaying their non-elite QBs at the moment. I'd say that if you don't have Rodgers/Manning/Brady/Rivers/Romo/Luck (maybe Rothlisburger and Brees) you have hurt your team by signing them for much more than the Orton $5 million plus the 4 other quality players you get. Or just drafting a QB, getting the comp picks and the extra salary cap. Tannehill's value to a team is probably about 7-9 million per. You wont be able to sign him at that (probably) as the Dolphins. But you are better off letting him go than paying him $15+ per. He's Non Elite but he is in the top half of the league. And seems to have hit a weird streak of 5 games at 70% or higher completion percentage, something not even Bree, Montana, Marino....etc have done. According to QBR he is outplaying QBs getting paid much more than him like Kaepernick, Smith, Dalton, Stafford, and Cutler. While I agree he's probably not worth what some of those QBs are getting paid. I still think he's worth resigning at 12ish million per. But that's also without researching the cap figures and how much getting rid of players like Ellerbe, Wheeler, Moreno, Gibson and Hartline, if they go that route. They Obviously need to focus on those and I dont see them keeping Matt Moore on the bench for 4-5mill a year anymore. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 02 2014 16:42 Shotcoder wrote: He's Non Elite but he is in the top half of the league. And seems to have hit a weird streak of 5 games at 70% or higher completion percentage, something not even Bree, Montana, Marino....etc have done. According to QBR he is outplaying QBs getting paid much more than him like Kaepernick, Smith, Dalton, Stafford, and Cutler. While I agree he's probably not worth what some of those QBs are getting paid. I still think he's worth resigning at 12ish million per. But that's also without researching the cap figures and how much getting rid of players like Ellerbe, Wheeler, Moreno, Gibson and Hartline, if they go that route. They Obviously need to focus on those and I dont see them keeping Matt Moore on the bench for 4-5mill a year anymore. All of those players contracts are a net negative for their teams. And you are unlikely to sign Tannehill at 12 Million Per. The QB market right now is like the Law School market. Its still worth it to go to Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Cal, but if you go to Depaul, American, Drexel or any of the mid-tier University of ____ schools you are paying nearly the same in tuition with only a small increase in earning power over not going, or going to a lower tier law school on scholarship. | ||
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Shotcoder
United States2316 Posts
On December 02 2014 16:55 cLutZ wrote: All of those players contracts are a net negative for their teams. And you are unlikely to sign Tannehill at 12 Million Per. The QB market right now is like the Law School market. Its still worth it to go to Harvard/Yale/Stanford/Cal, but if you go to Depaul, American, Drexel or any of the mid-tier University of ____ schools you are paying nearly the same in tuition with only a small increase in earning power over not going, or going to a lower tier law school on scholarship. That's also part of the reason I think he'll get that kind of money and accept it. They won't offer him big time money. He doesn't have the full skill set of Manning, Brady or Rodgers but he's still good enough to keep around BUT he hasn't had a play off appearance yet either which is also brings in big money. That's what the other QBs have on their resume that Tannehill does not. If he doesn't take a team friendly deal I don't mind seeing him walk, I mean yea I hate seeing him go, I love his attitude and professionalism but at some point you have to think of the team as a whole. Now if they do in fact make the play offs this season I can see them signing him for the 15ish million. I also think the contract will get worked out before his last year option. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
Also, fwiw, by resigning Tannehill, that means they won't have to blow a high pick on a qb. That means they can fill another position with a higher quality, cheaper player. I just think that anytime you cut a QB loose without having an immediate suitable replacemen on the roster, you are entering a rebuilding mode. | ||
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giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On December 02 2014 17:02 Jaaaaasper wrote: The patriots not having their one true star level pass rusher finally caught up with them. I can take the loss if it gets the media and certain elements of the fan base from becoming overly gushy. They're still going to win the division and have the number one seed, but now I won't have to deal with fellow pats fans declaring this team the super bowl victors already. Because we should all remember how that worked out in 2007. I find it comforting that most patriots fans feel the same way about this. This loss was a good thing in the end and the players seem to feel the same. Played fairly poor, still had a chance to win. To beat almost all the division leaders going into the playoffs would have been so much pressure. I still worry about the Miami game though, will be tough | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On December 02 2014 03:37 andrewlt wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i2.minus.com/i4VJbDeCufPmC.jpg) This is a possibility in the AFC this year. I hope it happens. Have fun figuring out the tiebreakers. Patriots are expected to lose 2 games against Chargers/Dolphins/Bills/Jets? | ||
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