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On November 10 2014 06:52 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 06:41 Shellshock wrote:
Does this mean that 6 win NFC South champ dream is still alive? I'd love to see this but I think the Saints still get 9 wins. The rest of their schedule is very winnable. Don't forget they still get to play the rest of the shitty NFC South.
The lowest possible would be what 0 wins 6 ties or 3 wins playoff appearance?
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On November 10 2014 06:43 giftdgecko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 05:36 On_Slaught wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. Rex deserve so much blame for the ineptitude of the offense. He never gave Sanchez or Smith a chance to be good (just look at that article posted above). Rex has zero business being a head coach in this league. Rather, he should go be a defense coordinator somewhere else, which is exactly what he will be hired as after he is fired. On November 10 2014 05:39 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. That's kind of the problem, the D is his and has been the driving force his entire regime. The offense has never been good, even when he had the "ground and pound" he wanted. The guy's a great defensive coordinator but his offensive abilities seem to fall short, and that comes back to him, regardless of the GM. I'll agree that the blame can be placed on him if you blame him for holding onto Schottenheimer and Mornhinweg for as long as he has. I don't know if that's his call or the FO's. Those two are awful. He had the power to literally call the plays himself though, so even if he had OC's he didn't want it's still on him.
I don't agree with that. The NFL isn't Madden where a defensive coach can call plays competently. You have to trust your OC if you're running the defense.
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On November 10 2014 07:14 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 06:43 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 05:36 On_Slaught wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. Rex deserve so much blame for the ineptitude of the offense. He never gave Sanchez or Smith a chance to be good (just look at that article posted above). Rex has zero business being a head coach in this league. Rather, he should go be a defense coordinator somewhere else, which is exactly what he will be hired as after he is fired. On November 10 2014 05:39 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. That's kind of the problem, the D is his and has been the driving force his entire regime. The offense has never been good, even when he had the "ground and pound" he wanted. The guy's a great defensive coordinator but his offensive abilities seem to fall short, and that comes back to him, regardless of the GM. I'll agree that the blame can be placed on him if you blame him for holding onto Schottenheimer and Mornhinweg for as long as he has. I don't know if that's his call or the FO's. Those two are awful. He had the power to literally call the plays himself though, so even if he had OC's he didn't want it's still on him. I don't agree with that. The NFL isn't Madden where a defensive coach can call plays competently. You have to trust your OC if you're running the defense.
If your offense is struggling and your defense is ok, you put the D in the hands of the coordinator and take over the offense. It's your team, not the coordinators. There has to be trust yes, but it's your ass on the line with the finished product.
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On November 10 2014 07:21 giftdgecko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:14 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 06:43 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 05:36 On_Slaught wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. Rex deserve so much blame for the ineptitude of the offense. He never gave Sanchez or Smith a chance to be good (just look at that article posted above). Rex has zero business being a head coach in this league. Rather, he should go be a defense coordinator somewhere else, which is exactly what he will be hired as after he is fired. On November 10 2014 05:39 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. That's kind of the problem, the D is his and has been the driving force his entire regime. The offense has never been good, even when he had the "ground and pound" he wanted. The guy's a great defensive coordinator but his offensive abilities seem to fall short, and that comes back to him, regardless of the GM. I'll agree that the blame can be placed on him if you blame him for holding onto Schottenheimer and Mornhinweg for as long as he has. I don't know if that's his call or the FO's. Those two are awful. He had the power to literally call the plays himself though, so even if he had OC's he didn't want it's still on him. I don't agree with that. The NFL isn't Madden where a defensive coach can call plays competently. You have to trust your OC if you're running the defense. If your offense is struggling and your defense is ok, you put the D in the hands of the coordinator and take over the offense. It's your team, not the coordinators. There has to be trust yes, but it's your ass on the line with the finished product.
Yeah, but you're assuming that Ryan has the ability to be a competent play caller. I don't think any of the defensive guys could, or vice versa. I don't think Belichick would ever want to be running the Pats offense, or Sean Payton the Saints D.
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On November 10 2014 07:21 giftdgecko wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:14 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 06:43 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 05:36 On_Slaught wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. Rex deserve so much blame for the ineptitude of the offense. He never gave Sanchez or Smith a chance to be good (just look at that article posted above). Rex has zero business being a head coach in this league. Rather, he should go be a defense coordinator somewhere else, which is exactly what he will be hired as after he is fired. On November 10 2014 05:39 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. That's kind of the problem, the D is his and has been the driving force his entire regime. The offense has never been good, even when he had the "ground and pound" he wanted. The guy's a great defensive coordinator but his offensive abilities seem to fall short, and that comes back to him, regardless of the GM. I'll agree that the blame can be placed on him if you blame him for holding onto Schottenheimer and Mornhinweg for as long as he has. I don't know if that's his call or the FO's. Those two are awful. He had the power to literally call the plays himself though, so even if he had OC's he didn't want it's still on him. I don't agree with that. The NFL isn't Madden where a defensive coach can call plays competently. You have to trust your OC if you're running the defense. If your offense is struggling and your defense is ok, you put the D in the hands of the coordinator and take over the offense. It's your team, not the coordinators. There has to be trust yes, but it's your ass on the line with the finished product.
Wonder when the last time this happened was?
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On November 10 2014 07:32 AgentW wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 07:21 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 07:14 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 06:43 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:On November 10 2014 05:36 On_Slaught wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. Rex deserve so much blame for the ineptitude of the offense. He never gave Sanchez or Smith a chance to be good (just look at that article posted above). Rex has zero business being a head coach in this league. Rather, he should go be a defense coordinator somewhere else, which is exactly what he will be hired as after he is fired. On November 10 2014 05:39 giftdgecko wrote:On November 10 2014 05:27 AgentW wrote:
I know this is easy to say because they're winning but I'll say it again: I can't figure out why people call for Rex Ryan's head. That team stinks and he has them in close games with the mess they have at QB based largely on their defense. That's kind of the problem, the D is his and has been the driving force his entire regime. The offense has never been good, even when he had the "ground and pound" he wanted. The guy's a great defensive coordinator but his offensive abilities seem to fall short, and that comes back to him, regardless of the GM. I'll agree that the blame can be placed on him if you blame him for holding onto Schottenheimer and Mornhinweg for as long as he has. I don't know if that's his call or the FO's. Those two are awful. He had the power to literally call the plays himself though, so even if he had OC's he didn't want it's still on him. I don't agree with that. The NFL isn't Madden where a defensive coach can call plays competently. You have to trust your OC if you're running the defense. If your offense is struggling and your defense is ok, you put the D in the hands of the coordinator and take over the offense. It's your team, not the coordinators. There has to be trust yes, but it's your ass on the line with the finished product. Yeah, but you're assuming that Ryan has the ability to be a competent play caller. I don't think any of the defensive guys could, or vice versa. I don't think Belichick would ever want to be running the Pats offense, or Sean Payton the Saints D.
Want to, no. But BB has and does pay special attention to the areas where the pats struggle (The O-line this year was the big project). If he really isn't capable of helping the offense at all when it's struggling then he shouldn't be a HC in the first place imo. Either way, he was given some shitty O's to work with throughout most of his tenure.
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Italy12246 Posts
Even if he wasnt playcalling, he ultimately is responsible for developing his supposed franchise quarterbacks, and he failed that spectacularly, twice.
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Ahh yes, C.J. Anderson. Can we stop pretending we know anything about the quality of offensive players surrounding Peyton Manning?
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2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
Beast modin'.
STILL BEASTIN'.
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United States97276 Posts
what a day for lynch. he probably should have had another one too when the seahawks were on the 1 but screwed it up
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Palmer injured again days after that fat extension.
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At least we know the backup can play. Stanton gives them a good chance to win while Palmer recovers. If he is out for the season, however, then I'd start really worrying.
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On November 10 2014 08:56 Shellshock wrote:
what a day for lynch. he probably should have had another one too when the seahawks were on the 1 but screwed it up
Still love the local media (white guys scared of black guys from Oakland) saying all year that Seattle doesn't need Marshawn, what a distraction he is -- this team is 3-6 AT BEST right now without Marshawn. The passing game continues to be awful. Beast Mode > "the system" created by the all-wise front office *GONG*
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On November 10 2014 09:36 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 10 2014 08:56 Shellshock wrote:
what a day for lynch. he probably should have had another one too when the seahawks were on the 1 but screwed it up Still love the local media (white guys scared of black guys from Oakland) saying all year that Seattle doesn't need Marshawn, what a distraction he is -- this team is 3-6 AT BEST right now without Marshawn. The passing game continues to be awful. Beast Mode > "the system" created by the all-wise front office *GONG*
Nobody can argue with Beast Mode.
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On November 10 2014 05:15 giftdgecko wrote:
Steelers are going to be one of the biggest overrated teams going into the playoffs. Hopefully this game wakes them and their fans up a bit. They just aren't consistent enough to be a legit contender
Their defense is garbage.
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is it the same knee that palmer tore against the steelers a long time ago?
edit: yeah, apparently it's the left knee again.
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On November 10 2014 10:00 GTR wrote:
is it the same knee that palmer tore against the steelers a long time ago?
edit: yeah, apparently it's the left knee again.
yeah, same knee.
You have him too?
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On November 10 2014 09:20 red_ wrote:
Palmer injured again days after that fat extension.
Wonder what his injury clause is.
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