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[QUOTE]On April 17 2014 23:49 Arisen wrote:
So, I had a small pain (pain probably isn't the right word, here; Really more of a mild discomfort) where my femur meets with my hip on the right side a few days back after a run. There wasn't a sudden moment of "oh this hurts, now," but I did feel discomfort afterwards. It went away within a day or so.
Cut to last night and I'm doing some yoga before bed, and I get that same feeling in my hip (I don't know what to call the area, so I'm just going to go with hip until someone corrects me.) I woke up this morning and went for my walk (1 hour at moderate pace (3.5 mph or so avg pace). I was uncomfortable the entire time because of this feeling in my hip. I did some stretches that open up the hips after I got done with breakfast (lizard, reclined pidgeon, reclined godess, etc,) and it seemed to make things better, but I'm still aware of the discomfort there.
Now, it's not so bad that I can't do anything on it, but I'm not sure if this is a precursor to a pull or something worse, and I don't want to aggravate any problems. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing that can tell me if this is serious or not, and If I'm OK to keep doing what I'm doing (walk an hour every morning, run 3 times/week?)
Thanks for the help[/QUOTE
DO NOT FUCK WITH THE HIP
Okay, I'm probably biased on the paranoid side...but I lost 20 months to that nonsense. Honestly, there are some hip issues you can run through, and some you definitely cannot. I would say just rest, or do a form of cross-training where you absolutely cannot tell your hip is agitated at all.
The problem with the hip is that about 15-20 injures can cause pain/discomfort there, and it's pretty tricky to find out which one is the culprit. If you have the time to do all the research and figure it out then go for it and maybe it's something you can run with; but otherwise I'd certainly suggest playing it safe.
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On April 18 2014 00:26 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 23:49 Arisen wrote:
So, I had a small pain (pain probably isn't the right word, here; Really more of a mild discomfort) where my femur meets with my hip on the right side a few days back after a run. There wasn't a sudden moment of "oh this hurts, now," but I did feel discomfort afterwards. It went away within a day or so.
Cut to last night and I'm doing some yoga before bed, and I get that same feeling in my hip (I don't know what to call the area, so I'm just going to go with hip until someone corrects me.) I woke up this morning and went for my walk (1 hour at moderate pace (3.5 mph or so avg pace). I was uncomfortable the entire time because of this feeling in my hip. I did some stretches that open up the hips after I got done with breakfast (lizard, reclined pidgeon, reclined godess, etc,) and it seemed to make things better, but I'm still aware of the discomfort there.
Now, it's not so bad that I can't do anything on it, but I'm not sure if this is a precursor to a pull or something worse, and I don't want to aggravate any problems. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing that can tell me if this is serious or not, and If I'm OK to keep doing what I'm doing (walk an hour every morning, run 3 times/week?)
Thanks for the help DO NOT FUCK WITH THE HIP Okay, I'm probably biased on the paranoid side...but I lost 20 months to that nonsense. Honestly, there are some hip issues you can run through, and some you definitely cannot. I would say just rest, or do a form of cross-training where you absolutely cannot tell your hip is agitated at all. The problem with the hip is that about 15-20 injures can cause pain/discomfort there, and it's pretty tricky to find out which one is the culprit. If you have the time to do all the research and figure it out then go for it and maybe it's something you can run with; but otherwise I'd certainly suggest playing it safe.
I'm not finding much online. As you said, it's hard to pin down the one you might have because a lot of the symptoms are similar. The closest I've found so far is a hip flexor strain. I've tried to figure out some things to help me pinpoint what I might have, and I'll I can come up with right now is that I only get discomfort moving my leg forward/up. If I lay flat on the floor, raising my right leg causes almost immediate discomfort, but I can move the leg back without any discomfort and am fine on the other side.
Also, If I lay flat on the floor, and bring both feet up so the soles are facing flat on the floor (knees raised), and then let my left knee fall to the side; I can move my right knee the opposite direction (reclined goddess pose) normally, however, if I bring that knee to meet my left knee, I have WICKED tightness in my ass, the inside of my thigh, and my hamstrings. Thanks for the help so far. I'll skip my run tomorrow till things die down. Should I still be fine to walk at a brisk pace?
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On April 18 2014 07:35 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 00:26 L_Master wrote:On April 17 2014 23:49 Arisen wrote:
So, I had a small pain (pain probably isn't the right word, here; Really more of a mild discomfort) where my femur meets with my hip on the right side a few days back after a run. There wasn't a sudden moment of "oh this hurts, now," but I did feel discomfort afterwards. It went away within a day or so.
Cut to last night and I'm doing some yoga before bed, and I get that same feeling in my hip (I don't know what to call the area, so I'm just going to go with hip until someone corrects me.) I woke up this morning and went for my walk (1 hour at moderate pace (3.5 mph or so avg pace). I was uncomfortable the entire time because of this feeling in my hip. I did some stretches that open up the hips after I got done with breakfast (lizard, reclined pidgeon, reclined godess, etc,) and it seemed to make things better, but I'm still aware of the discomfort there.
Now, it's not so bad that I can't do anything on it, but I'm not sure if this is a precursor to a pull or something worse, and I don't want to aggravate any problems. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing that can tell me if this is serious or not, and If I'm OK to keep doing what I'm doing (walk an hour every morning, run 3 times/week?)
Thanks for the help DO NOT FUCK WITH THE HIP Okay, I'm probably biased on the paranoid side...but I lost 20 months to that nonsense. Honestly, there are some hip issues you can run through, and some you definitely cannot. I would say just rest, or do a form of cross-training where you absolutely cannot tell your hip is agitated at all. The problem with the hip is that about 15-20 injures can cause pain/discomfort there, and it's pretty tricky to find out which one is the culprit. If you have the time to do all the research and figure it out then go for it and maybe it's something you can run with; but otherwise I'd certainly suggest playing it safe. I'm not finding much online. As you said, it's hard to pin down the one you might have because a lot of the symptoms are similar. The closest I've found so far is a hip flexor strain. I've tried to figure out some things to help me pinpoint what I might have, and I'll I can come up with right now is that I only get discomfort moving my leg forward/up. If I lay flat on the floor, raising my right leg causes almost immediate discomfort, but I can move the leg back without any discomfort and am fine on the other side. Also, If I lay flat on the floor, and bring both feet up so the soles are facing flat on the floor (knees raised), and then let my left knee fall to the side; I can move my right knee the opposite direction (reclined goddess pose) normally, however, if I bring that knee to meet my left knee, I have WICKED tightness in my ass, the inside of my thigh, and my hamstrings. Thanks for the help so far. I'll skip my run tomorrow till things die down. Should I still be fine to walk at a brisk pace?
Haha it's a litany
- Strain ( at least 10 possible muscles)
- Bursitis
- Tendonitis
- Femoral Acetubular Impingement
- Femoral Neck Sfx
- Avascular Necrosis
- Sciatic
- Other back related issues referring to the hip
- Osteoitis Pubis
- Sports Hernia
- Labral Tear with or without impingement
- Cartilage Irregularities
- Avulsion Fracture
- Sacroilliac Joint Issues
You can probably rule out like half or more pretty quick, but that gives you an idea of things that can cause groin/hip pain. I could easily list another 10+. It's just a bitch to diagnose because so much stuff crosses and pain is very easily referred to various places. You can have problems in your lower leg or back causing groin pain...
Walking should be fine, provided it doesn't hurt or make you feel overly stiff afterwords.
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On April 18 2014 07:35 Arisen wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2014 00:26 L_Master wrote:On April 17 2014 23:49 Arisen wrote:
So, I had a small pain (pain probably isn't the right word, here; Really more of a mild discomfort) where my femur meets with my hip on the right side a few days back after a run. There wasn't a sudden moment of "oh this hurts, now," but I did feel discomfort afterwards. It went away within a day or so.
Cut to last night and I'm doing some yoga before bed, and I get that same feeling in my hip (I don't know what to call the area, so I'm just going to go with hip until someone corrects me.) I woke up this morning and went for my walk (1 hour at moderate pace (3.5 mph or so avg pace). I was uncomfortable the entire time because of this feeling in my hip. I did some stretches that open up the hips after I got done with breakfast (lizard, reclined pidgeon, reclined godess, etc,) and it seemed to make things better, but I'm still aware of the discomfort there.
Now, it's not so bad that I can't do anything on it, but I'm not sure if this is a precursor to a pull or something worse, and I don't want to aggravate any problems. Does anyone have any experience with this kind of thing that can tell me if this is serious or not, and If I'm OK to keep doing what I'm doing (walk an hour every morning, run 3 times/week?)
Thanks for the help DO NOT FUCK WITH THE HIP Okay, I'm probably biased on the paranoid side...but I lost 20 months to that nonsense. Honestly, there are some hip issues you can run through, and some you definitely cannot. I would say just rest, or do a form of cross-training where you absolutely cannot tell your hip is agitated at all. The problem with the hip is that about 15-20 injures can cause pain/discomfort there, and it's pretty tricky to find out which one is the culprit. If you have the time to do all the research and figure it out then go for it and maybe it's something you can run with; but otherwise I'd certainly suggest playing it safe. I'm not finding much online. As you said, it's hard to pin down the one you might have because a lot of the symptoms are similar. The closest I've found so far is a hip flexor strain. I've tried to figure out some things to help me pinpoint what I might have, and I'll I can come up with right now is that I only get discomfort moving my leg forward/up. If I lay flat on the floor, raising my right leg causes almost immediate discomfort, but I can move the leg back without any discomfort and am fine on the other side. Also, If I lay flat on the floor, and bring both feet up so the soles are facing flat on the floor (knees raised), and then let my left knee fall to the side; I can move my right knee the opposite direction (reclined goddess pose) normally, however, if I bring that knee to meet my left knee, I have WICKED tightness in my ass, the inside of my thigh, and my hamstrings. Thanks for the help so far. I'll skip my run tomorrow till things die down. Should I still be fine to walk at a brisk pace?
Just ending a nightmare 10 weeks of rehabbing various injuries caused by continuing to run, train and play soccer on a strained hip flexor. Compensation caused strains in the hamstring tendon, piriformis and the sartorious. Couple of those muscles I didn't even know existed before hurting them. My physical therapist said don't mess around with hip flexor injuries. Running around on them before they are ready, especially lateral movement, can really screw you up.
Use a foam roller to try and loosen up the spot and get blood flowing to the area
Ice cup massage the area for 5 minutes 2-3 times per day if you can
While swimming is the best way to rehab and keep fit, the bike is decent. Just make sure to stop if you feel any discomfort.
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Wierdest workout ever today. Wanted to do 4-5xMile w/2:30 or so recovery.
Legs felt about as heavy, sluggish, and dead as I have felt in a long time; however mechanically the pace felt joggish if anything. Then to add to the contradictions, the repeats felt difficult while doing them, yet I felt recovered almost immediately on completion of them, and at the end felt like I could do the whole workout again. It's possible I let my heavy legs affect my mindset and puss out a bit.
Ended up doing 3xMile, 600 in 6:14, 6:07, 5:56, 2:07; rest was 2:30 between miles, and 2:00 before the 600. Pretty windy, probably 15 mph or so.
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Do you determine your pace according to effort only? I always have to check my 200m times because I'm a noob at finding the pace I want to run.
Six days until the big day. Ran 25k last wednesday which I probably ran a little too fast so recovery took a little longer than I wanted. Eating the gels worked well. Had another 14k hill workout today which was absolutely necessary as it was harder aerobically than I remembered. I guess the stupid 10 days of not running mostly effected that part. I don't feel the hole in my foot anymore. The deeper tissue seems to have completely healed. The skin is still missing but doesn't effect my running.
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There's a livestream for the Boston Marathon in some countries if anyone wants to watch it: http://watchlive.baa.org/
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Watching Boston now. Should be good.
Hall really needs a good run here, or he will be fading hard into irrelevancy. Meb has a good shot at top 5, even if the field is dang strong; guy is a darn good racer and seems fit judging from his win at US Halfs, etc.
Shalane there should rightfully be hype around. Olympic medalist and Olympic record holder that just ran a 15k a few months ago at sub 5 pace. She hasn't quite dialed the marathon quite right yet, but she should certainly be a 2:19 gal once she gets it done. My only worry is that if she can run sub 5 pace for 15k a month+ ago...is she too sharp. Guys don't usually run very well at the shorter distances when they are really well trained for marathon
Desi is awesome, especially that finish in Boston a few years ago. No idea what to expect as far as her fitness goes coming back from injury, but hoping for awesome results!
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As far as pacing, for most runs like easy/tempo I go by pace only. For some efforts like interval or races you can also go after certain splits as a guideline.
I tend to run pretty conservative in races, running say the first 50-75% of the race with a target pace in mind, then if I have anything left to push with doing so in the last bit.
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Shalane is crazy. Let's hope she knows what she's doing.
I really like that they don't have pace runners. It makes the race way more interesting from the start.
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Meb did it! 2:08
Only 20sec in front of #2 2miles before the end, margin was around 6-7 seconds at some point, but Meb managed to find some resource in the end.
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That was some amazing running by Meb, PRing by 40 seconds on a very difficult course are age 39. Can't help but think the main guys just underestimated him...but they weren't able to catch him in the end. Very cool win.
Shalane, while ballsy as heck, was also stupid. Going out on 2:18 pace through half, and continuing to press was madness; especially given that she and ONLY she led, and to add to that she made some aggressive mini surges to prevent others from taking the lead. The fact that she ran 2:22 off that is really impressive, and she might be ready to be a serious contender in the marathon...but the run itself was very poor strategically.
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So happy for Meb, what an inspirational and solid run today, I was at the edge of my seat wondering if he was going to be able to hang on there at the end.
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Monsta workout today
Track that out team usually uses had a practice running long so we had to go to the trail. Did 4x400, 2x800, 2x1200, with 90s recovery between everything. 400s in 75 avg, 800s in 2:52 avg, 1200s in 4:28 avg. Definitely feel ready for a good race this weekend or on the track a few Sunday's from now.
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I finally managed to run for 25 minutes in one go. The pace was pretty slow, but after several failed attempts I don't really care. Feeling good.
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On April 23 2014 17:06 Bunn wrote:
I finally managed to run for 25 minutes in one go. The pace was pretty slow, but after several failed attempts I don't really care. Feeling good.
Nice job!
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On April 23 2014 13:16 L_Master wrote:
Monsta workout today
Track that out team usually uses had a practice running long so we had to go to the trail. Did 4x400, 2x800, 2x1200, with 90s recovery between everything. 400s in 75 avg, 800s in 2:52 avg, 1200s in 4:28 avg. Definitely feel ready for a good race this weekend or on the track a few Sunday's from now.
Nicely done, nicely done! Just wondering, what sort of base mileage are you at, currently? I haven't been mixing in much speed work yet, myself, due to the Achilles and not feeling like I had enough base fitness to truly get a lot (besides more injuries) out of speed work. 'Just wondering.
Good luck racing this weekend!
PS. I think all of my guys are in Wave A, but we'll see if our inclination closer to the BB is to drop back a wave or not. It was pretty fun leading it off last year in A. 
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On April 24 2014 01:03 mtmentat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2014 13:16 L_Master wrote:
Monsta workout today
Track that out team usually uses had a practice running long so we had to go to the trail. Did 4x400, 2x800, 2x1200, with 90s recovery between everything. 400s in 75 avg, 800s in 2:52 avg, 1200s in 4:28 avg. Definitely feel ready for a good race this weekend or on the track a few Sunday's from now.
Nicely done, nicely done! Just wondering, what sort of base mileage are you at, currently? I haven't been mixing in much speed work yet, myself, due to the Achilles and not feeling like I had enough base fitness to truly get a lot (besides more injuries) out of speed work. 'Just wondering. Good luck racing this weekend! PS. I think all of my guys are in Wave A, but we'll see if our inclination closer to the BB is to drop back a wave or not. It was pretty fun leading it off last year in A.
Base mileage? About 15-20 mpw. Base aerobic work? Probably averaging 6-8 hours per week when you include elliptical/stairmaster/bike.
Honestly I'm probably being a little stupid making most of my running mileage workouts, but with that collegiate meet coming up on the 11th...
After that I'm going to lay low and run more easy miles, and do workouts broken up on the machines. I.e. 6xMile becomes 2x6 min hard elliptical, 2xMile on the mill, 2x6 min hard stairmaster.
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ran boston this monday 3:07
Really underestimated the difficulty of the course, the net loss of elevation is really actually misleading.
Blew out my legs first 18miles, then from mile 18-21 was heartbreak hill which broke my legs more than my heart. Last 5 miles was just pure misery until the last 0.2 miles, which i turned on at boylston and the crowd as so loud i can't even hear myself think.
felt like an absolute super star, amazing race.
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On April 24 2014 05:36 YPang wrote:ran boston this monday 3:07 Really underestimated the difficulty of the course, the net loss of elevation is really actually misleading. Blew out my legs first 18miles, then from mile 18-21 was heartbreak hill which broke my legs more than my heart. Last 5 miles was just pure misery until the last 0.2 miles, which i turned on at boylston and the crowd as so loud i can't even hear myself think. felt like an absolute super star, amazing race.
Yea, that isn't a bad time at all; especially since it got hot later on, and Boston is no easy course to begin with. What's next for you? More triathlon training?
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On April 24 2014 05:45 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2014 05:36 YPang wrote:ran boston this monday 3:07 Really underestimated the difficulty of the course, the net loss of elevation is really actually misleading. Blew out my legs first 18miles, then from mile 18-21 was heartbreak hill which broke my legs more than my heart. Last 5 miles was just pure misery until the last 0.2 miles, which i turned on at boylston and the crowd as so loud i can't even hear myself think. felt like an absolute super star, amazing race. Yea, that isn't a bad time at all; especially since it got hot later on, and Boston is no easy course to begin with. What's next for you? More triathlon training?
Haha, taking it easy for the next 2-3 days, then have a 10k on a track this saturday gonna try my best. Then gonna up the bike and swim volumes, trying to qualify for age group nationals next years in olympic distance triathlon, (It's a lot easier than it sounds).
How about you? are you almost back to where you were before u injured your hip? Hows your journey to your old race weight going?
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